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Post by eddy on Jul 6, 2013 5:29:29 GMT
Shea came on in a friendly against Guatemala, looked pretty good, some strong runs and was behind the US' 5th(?) goal. US won 6-0. Hopefully he doesnt play in the upcoming Gold Cup, needs a proper pre-season.
Feel free to shit bin if this has already been discussed
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Post by texasred on Jul 6, 2013 5:43:45 GMT
I was hoping to see him start tonight. However, he did come off the bench and help spark a run for the US. I watched the whole game and the US looked awful in the 1st half. After Klinsmann made subs (including Shea), the US was much more attacking. Shea had some good looks as well as his fair share of mistakes. But, he did make a lot of runs and the US attacked from his side majority of the second half. Promising showing. I hope it translates for Stoke going forward.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2013 13:33:52 GMT
It's odd how he has a good game and the thread's quiet...some stoke fans don't want to believe he might actually be good ;D
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Post by nott1 on Jul 6, 2013 15:19:25 GMT
The Gold Cup is a horse race, so I doubt he'll be in that!
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Post by unknown182 on Jul 6, 2013 15:40:45 GMT
His assist from last night. Is he due in training on Monday like everyone else or will he get extra time off?
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Post by texasred on Jul 6, 2013 15:41:10 GMT
I believe Shea is only playing 1 or 2 games for the US, then is off to meet up with Stoke for training.
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Post by jbstokie on Jul 6, 2013 15:56:46 GMT
Looked rapid in that run.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 6, 2013 15:58:17 GMT
Yup, him and Geoff haven't been called up. The only player who has is KJ for T&T. Good to hear he's fit more than anything really.
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Post by slozenger on Jul 6, 2013 16:15:05 GMT
USMNT? Awesome dude! Cowabunga!
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Post by nonameface on Jul 6, 2013 17:24:21 GMT
Looked like he had a good turn of pace and neither the RB or CB could get near to him; is that because they were slow or he is genuinely fast? If its the latter then we've found a Matt E replacement. However, the small bits of him I've seen in the premier league have shown that he needs to improve his touch in tight spaces. If he works on the technical side then he'll be a good bit of business for us, fingers crossed!
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Post by frumpy on Jul 7, 2013 3:31:30 GMT
noname, the only bits you've seen of him at Stoke were directly coming off an operation. He was terrorizing up and down the left flank last night, had 4-5 threatening balls into the box that our A team guys probably put away.
Thing that stuck out most was he looked healthy for the first time since 2011. Pace/bursts that are a threat at any level. He's still rusty but after a full pre season he could make a few here look like bigtime dickheads for their opinions on his skill level before.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 7, 2013 6:13:43 GMT
noname, the only bits you've seen of him at Stoke were directly coming off an operation. He was terrorizing up and down the left flank last night, had 4-5 threatening balls into the box that our A team guys probably put away. Thing that stuck out most was he looked healthy for the first time since 2011. Pace/bursts that are a threat at any level. He's still rusty but after a full pre season he could make a few here look like bigtime dickheads for their opinions on his skill level before. Good points, well made, frumpy. When I looked at his injury/operation history last season, I never expected him to "hit the ground running" after we signed him in January. I have high hopes that he will do a good job this season. One thing in his favour is that, despite not having kicked a ball in anger for six months, he still managed to cause a bit of havoc in his two cameos for our first team including winning one (or was it two?) penalties. He clearly had little pace after his long injury lay off. If he has now rediscovered it (and it appears he has) then he could do a decent job for us on the left. I'm sure that the reason Hughes has not yet bought a left winger (Despite Ethers clearly being on the downslope) is because he wants to have a look at a fully fit Shea to see what he has to offer before making up his mind.
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Post by nutterpotter on Jul 7, 2013 7:52:31 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 7, 2013 8:02:24 GMT
Can't see how that's going to benefit him. He was left off what was apparently essentially a B-roster for this tournament to give him a chance to make an impression in pre-season at Stoke in what was a critical time for him. Now he might not get here until August, and basically miss the whole of an important pre-season. I'd be surprised if Hughes is happy about this at all. The only 2 Premier League players that are now in what is a bit of a Mickey Mouse competition this year are Kenwyne Jones and Shea, which isn't going to help us at all - but at least Kenwyne should be back in a fortnight as T&T probably won't progress as far as the USA.
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Post by nutterpotter on Jul 7, 2013 8:24:11 GMT
Can't see how that's going to benefit him. He was left off what was apparently essentially a B-roster for this tournament to give him a chance to make an impression in pre-season at Stoke in what was a critical time for him. Now he might not get here until August, and basically miss the whole of an important pre-season. I'd be surprised if Hughes is happy about this at all. The only 2 Premier League players that are now in what is a bit of a Mickey Mouse competition this year are Kenwyne Jones and Shea, which isn't going to help us at all - but at least Kenwyne should be back in a fortnight as T&T probably won't progress as far as the USA. It's only the provisional squad though isn't it?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 7, 2013 8:27:08 GMT
Just checked the itinerary for this competition - and if they get to the final (as the bookies definitely think they will), we won't be saying him till after July 28th. So he'd miss nearly all the US tour, with the final game on the 30th v Philadelphia - so it's questionable whether it'd be worth him meeting up with the squad over there. Can't see how this helps him at all. Klinsmann has been moaning at him not getting minutes, then selects him for a Mickey Mouse competition and inflicts more damage on his club prospects
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 7, 2013 8:28:03 GMT
Can't see how that's going to benefit him. He was left off what was apparently essentially a B-roster for this tournament to give him a chance to make an impression in pre-season at Stoke in what was a critical time for him. Now he might not get here until August, and basically miss the whole of an important pre-season. I'd be surprised if Hughes is happy about this at all. The only 2 Premier League players that are now in what is a bit of a Mickey Mouse competition this year are Kenwyne Jones and Shea, which isn't going to help us at all - but at least Kenwyne should be back in a fortnight as T&T probably won't progress as far as the USA. It's only the provisional squad though isn't it? No -it's the final squad apparently. The competition starts today.
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Post by seventhrowscreamer on Jul 7, 2013 8:54:50 GMT
Klinsmann loves Shea so I assume he will be in the first eleven for the Gold Cup. Unfortunately, he will miss time with the club but at least he will be gaining fitness while away. He looks close to ready to give Stoke a serious threat from the left.
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Jul 7, 2013 9:21:55 GMT
Andy Billingham has tweeted the players on twitter including Shea saying back to work tomorrow. It will be interesting to know if the club are even are aware of this development yet. I'm sure Hughes wont be too chuffed with no way of assessing if we are sorted on the left wing in his opinion or if he needs to bring someone in.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 7, 2013 9:36:45 GMT
Andy Billingham has tweeted the players on twitter including Shea saying back to work tomorrow. It will be interesting to know if the club are even are aware of this development yet. I'm sure Hughes wont be too chuffed with no way of assessing if we are sorted on the left wing in his opinion or if he needs to bring someone in. Yep- Shea's priority should be having a proper pre-season with his new club manager (the one that pays him £1m-a-year) - not playing in the international equivalent of the Autoglass Trophy for a month. Klinsmann has stitched him up.
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Post by RichardTMP on Jul 7, 2013 9:59:41 GMT
To be fair to Shea, a lot of footballers dream of playing for their country and when given the chance they take it straight away. I for one am happy for Shea to compete in the Gold Cup.
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Post by nonameface on Jul 7, 2013 11:33:39 GMT
noname, the only bits you've seen of him at Stoke were directly coming off an operation. He was terrorizing up and down the left flank last night, had 4-5 threatening balls into the box that our A team guys probably put away. Thing that stuck out most was he looked healthy for the first time since 2011. Pace/bursts that are a threat at any level. He's still rusty but after a full pre season he could make a few here look like bigtime dickheads for their opinions on his skill level before. Yeah, it was a surprise to see him play at all last season after his injury and not being "stoke fit". Hope he turns out to be the player we need him to be!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 7, 2013 11:57:46 GMT
Klinsmann You cunt!
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Post by unknown182 on Jul 7, 2013 15:21:38 GMT
If Klinsmann starts moaning again next year when he's not getting any games it will serve him right. Hughes has said many times that everyone will be on a clean slate in preseason and he wants to assess everybody individually. If Shea misses it all then he can't expect to be in the starting XI at the start of the season.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2013 16:05:36 GMT
If Klinsmann starts moaning again next year when he's not getting any games it will serve him right. Hughes has said many times that everyone will be on a clean slate in preseason and he wants to assess everybody individually. If Shea misses it all then he can't expect to be in the starting XI at the start of the season. Correct. Every word. Feel sorry for the player here. Lose lose.
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Post by fromtheusa on Jul 7, 2013 18:55:54 GMT
Shea was suppose to return to Stoke, but he is now replacing injured Josh Gatt in the Gold Cup.(CONCAFAF Championship) Tthe Gold Cup final is July 28th. Really doesn't make sense, the USA and Mexico are playing a B squads. USA is in a weak group that includes Belize and Cuba, I doubt any performance will impress his new coach. Why is Shea in the B squad Gold Cup instead of trying to earn a starting spot at Stoke? This seems 10 times more likely to hurt his chances of playing then trying to take funny pictures. All I have heard is how imporant preseason is going to be, and Shea is missing it to play in a crappy international tournament. (This year's Gold Cup is not a qualifier for the Confederations Cup so USA and Mexico send B squads.)
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jul 7, 2013 19:01:20 GMT
All good game time for his return from injury? Might do him the world of good. He may get some more funny pics in as well while he is away.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2013 19:01:34 GMT
Never going to forc his way into a premier league first team .
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 7, 2013 19:04:51 GMT
If I was Shea, I'd have told Klinsmann quite forcefully that my priority was spending the month with Stoke.
Okay, he wants to impress him and get on the World Cup squad - but he sure as hell won't be going unless he impresses Hughes and forces his way into his team regularly and he's now put himself behind the eight ball from the off.
Stupid all round.
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Post by werrington on Jul 7, 2013 19:05:19 GMT
Shea was suppose to return to Stoke, but he is now replacing injured Josh Gatt in the Gold Cup.(CONCAFAF Championship) Tthe Gold Cup final is July 28th. Really doesn't make sense, the USA and Mexico are playing a B squads. USA is in a weak group that includes Belize and Cuba, I doubt any performance will impress his new coach. Why is Shea in the B squad Gold Cup instead of trying to earn a starting spot at Stoke? This seems 10 times more likely to hurt his chances of playing then trying to take funny pictures. All I have heard is how imporant preseason is going to be, and Shea is missing it to play in a crappy international tournament. (This year's Gold Cup is not a qualifier for the Confederations Cup so USA and Mexico send B squads.) He is with the USA because they have called him up and Stoke have no powers to stop it Unless a player is injured he has to go or the country could have him suspended from club football
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