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Post by mynamesnotmark on Jul 8, 2013 11:49:42 GMT
I think Shea could be the star player this year, him and pieters down the left hand side looks promising On paper perhaps. The reality may be rather different. It may be, but would at least like to see this pairing given a good run of it, Matty is past it now and don't think it will take MH long to realise this
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jul 8, 2013 11:52:25 GMT
On paper perhaps. The reality may be rather different. It may be, but would at least like to see this pairing given a good run of it, Matty is past it now and don't think it will take MH long to realise this I think Hughes would be well aware of Ethers being shot. As I say, Shea and Pieters has potential
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Post by djduncanjames on Jul 8, 2013 12:22:09 GMT
It may be, but would at least like to see this pairing given a good run of it, Matty is past it now and don't think it will take MH long to realise this I think Hughes would be well aware of Ethers being shot. As I say, Shea and Pieters has potential I think they will form a good partnership as well, just a real shame they cannot work together pre-season, disappointed at this because it is crucial for MH to see them together to make an assessment. A NT friendly is one thing but this an actual tournament. JK really put Brek and the club in an awkward situation here
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Post by ukcstokie on Jul 8, 2013 12:39:38 GMT
Never going to forc his way into a premier league first team . What rubbish. Who knows? We didn't see anywhere enough of him last season and he's coming off a serious injury.
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Post by fromtheusa on Jul 8, 2013 16:24:16 GMT
I understand the concern with team chemistry and all, but I firmly believe many of the doubters here will be pleasantly surprised by Brek's quality when he returns from Gold Cup. And by that I mean Brek is going to make Mexico's backline his bitch, and buy USA's ticket to the next Confed cup. #unbiased This Gold Cup is not a quilfer for the Confed Cup, that's why Mexico and USA send B squads.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 16:39:31 GMT
Never going to forc his way into a premier league first team . Chelsea and arsenal obviously thought the same when they were trying to sign him
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Post by jezzascfc on Jul 8, 2013 16:54:05 GMT
Klinsmann has indeed shafted young Brek here and not helped his chances at all of being in Hughes' plans from the outset. Ze Germans.......
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Post by kennedy on Jul 8, 2013 17:36:22 GMT
I understand the concern with team chemistry and all, but I firmly believe many of the doubters here will be pleasantly surprised by Brek's quality when he returns from Gold Cup. And by that I mean Brek is going to make Mexico's backline his bitch, and buy USA's ticket to the next Confed cup. #unbiased This Gold Cup is not a quilfer for the Confed Cup, that's why Mexico and USA send B squads. I thought every gold cup mattered now, aggregate score from the 2 or something or rather. No?
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Post by unknown182 on Jul 8, 2013 20:05:32 GMT
Keep reading replies to Shea's twitter saying they're looking forward to seeing him next against Dallas. I doubt he'll be there if US get through to the final. There will be some disappointed people about
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Post by frumpy on Jul 8, 2013 23:22:10 GMT
I understand the concern with team chemistry and all, but I firmly believe many of the doubters here will be pleasantly surprised by Brek's quality when he returns from Gold Cup. And by that I mean Brek is going to make Mexico's backline his bitch, and buy USA's ticket to the next Confed cup. #unbiased This Gold Cup is not a quilfer for the Confed Cup, that's why Mexico and USA send B squads. Yes it is, they changed the format. Now every GC means something.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 9, 2013 5:58:36 GMT
There are plusses and minuses in this situation. The down side is that he won't get a preseason with his club team mates. But we should be used to this - neither did 90% of TP's signings and some of them, to be fair slotted in nicely when they arrived at the end of August.
The upside is that, because of injury, apart from his two sub appearances for Stoke under TP, Shea had not kicked a ball in a competitive match for about 10 or 11 months until he joined the US squad. He'll now be in regular training interspersed with international games.
As a poster above has mentioned, I suspect that Hughes and Klinsmann will have discussed this. After all Hughes will have had plenty of time to pick up a phone in the weeks before preseason started. As for Hughes not giving Shea a fair crack of the whip - I never had him down as being an idiot. If you take over a new team and you have a young player in his early 20s you'd be an idiot to ignore them unless you had positive information that they were not up to scratch. I'm sure Coates will have made it clear to Hughes that the TP policy of freezing players out for no good reason has to end.
I'd expect Shea to join the team (possibly to watch but not play) in their games against Dallas and Philly then I expect to see him (fitness permitting) feature at some point against Genoa and I'm sure Hughes will take it from there. If he looks better then any other option on the left then he'll feature against Liverpool - why would he not?
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Post by thestatusquo on Jul 9, 2013 12:17:06 GMT
There are plusses and minuses in this situation. The down side is that he won't get a preseason with his club team mates. But we should be used to this - neither did 90% of TP's signings and some of them, to be fair slotted in nicely when they arrived at the end of August. The upside is that, because of injury, apart from his two sub appearances for Stoke under TP, Shea had not kicked a ball in a competitive match for about 10 or 11 months until he joined the US squad. He'll now be in regular training interspersed with international games. As a poster above has mentioned, I suspect that Hughes and Klinsmann will have discussed this. After all Hughes will have had plenty of time to pick up a phone in the weeks before preseason started. As for Hughes not giving Shea a fair crack of the whip - I never had him down as being an idiot. If you take over a new team and you have a young player in his early 20s you'd be an idiot to ignore them unless you had positive information that they were not up to scratch. I'm sure Coates will have made it clear to Hughes that the TP policy of freezing players out for no good reason has to end. I'd expect Shea to join the team (possibly to watch but not play) in their games against Dallas and Philly then I expect to see him (fitness permitting) feature at some point against Genoa and I'm sure Hughes will take it from there. If he looks better then any other option on the left then he'll feature against Liverpool - why would he not? He'll need time to work with the rest of the team and as you've highlighted he won't get much of a chance to do that before the Liverpool game. Hughes doesn't strike me as a gambler so I think he'll want to have a good, up close look at him before he gets a run in the side.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 9, 2013 12:25:17 GMT
There are plusses and minuses in this situation. The down side is that he won't get a preseason with his club team mates. But we should be used to this - neither did 90% of TP's signings and some of them, to be fair slotted in nicely when they arrived at the end of August. The upside is that, because of injury, apart from his two sub appearances for Stoke under TP, Shea had not kicked a ball in a competitive match for about 10 or 11 months until he joined the US squad. He'll now be in regular training interspersed with international games. As a poster above has mentioned, I suspect that Hughes and Klinsmann will have discussed this. After all Hughes will have had plenty of time to pick up a phone in the weeks before preseason started. As for Hughes not giving Shea a fair crack of the whip - I never had him down as being an idiot. If you take over a new team and you have a young player in his early 20s you'd be an idiot to ignore them unless you had positive information that they were not up to scratch. I'm sure Coates will have made it clear to Hughes that the TP policy of freezing players out for no good reason has to end. I'd expect Shea to join the team (possibly to watch but not play) in their games against Dallas and Philly then I expect to see him (fitness permitting) feature at some point against Genoa and I'm sure Hughes will take it from there. If he looks better then any other option on the left then he'll feature against Liverpool - why would he not? He'll need time to work with the rest of the team and as you've highlighted he won't get much of a chance to do that before the Liverpool game. Hughes doesn't strike me as a gambler so I think he'll want to have a good, up close look at him before he gets a run in the side. He should get just over two weeks with the team before the Liverpool game. Not ideal but, assuming he stays fit for the Gold Cup and USA reach the final, he'll be match fit. Like I said, I would assume he'll feature to some extent against Genoa and, whoever looks best out of Shea and Ethers, I'd expect to get the nod against Liverpool - unless we have signed another leftie by then.
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Post by djduncanjames on Jul 9, 2013 12:48:52 GMT
There are plusses and minuses in this situation. The down side is that he won't get a preseason with his club team mates. But we should be used to this - neither did 90% of TP's signings and some of them, to be fair slotted in nicely when they arrived at the end of August. Totally agree with this, but with the exception being that Hughes did not sign Shea, as TP did with his late signings you are referring to. Meaning Hughes will not feel compelled to just "slot" Shea in the side a la Woodgate to justify the transfer. Feel sorry for Brek as he was kind of an outsider already and now he misses his chance to start equal under the new regime, shame it's worked out like this for him really. Hope he goes on a tear down there and makes some headlines for better reasons like hat-tricks, not pig-head-tricks!
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 9, 2013 13:00:43 GMT
It's clear Shea is in the managers plans having been given the number 11 shirt. As long as he is getting regular games for USA then I can't see a problem. He'll come back to us in decent shape in a couple of weeks and he can kick on from there. No doubt Hughes will be getting videos of Sheas performances so he'll get to know what he's about.
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Post by djduncanjames on Jul 9, 2013 13:23:45 GMT
It's clear Shea is in the managers plans having been given the number 11 shirt. As long as he is getting regular games for USA then I can't see a problem. He'll come back to us in decent shape in a couple of weeks and he can kick on from there. No doubt Hughes will be getting videos of Sheas performances so he'll get to know what he's about. Wasn't Pennant given the number 7 shirt last season???????
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 9, 2013 13:28:26 GMT
It's clear Shea is in the managers plans having been given the number 11 shirt. As long as he is getting regular games for USA then I can't see a problem. He'll come back to us in decent shape in a couple of weeks and he can kick on from there. No doubt Hughes will be getting videos of Sheas performances so he'll get to know what he's about. Wasn't Pennant given the number 7 shirt last season??????? Wasn't that the previous year before the nightclub incident the night before a game.
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Post by mailman44 on Jul 9, 2013 13:37:52 GMT
But wasn't Shea somebody else's signing and not the capped one?
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Post by jerrythesaint on Jul 9, 2013 13:58:32 GMT
Anybody seen these 2 videos of Brek?
Wenger on Brek..!?
And this goal..!!
JTS
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Post by djduncanjames on Jul 9, 2013 14:38:24 GMT
Wasn't Pennant given the number 7 shirt last season??????? Wasn't that the previous year before the nightclub incident the night before a game. You're probably right, I remember him being granted it and then frozen out same season... is he still #7 then??
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Post by fromtheusa on Jul 9, 2013 22:17:35 GMT
Anybody seen these 2 videos of Brek? Wenger on Brek..!? And this goal..!! JTS The first video is a diss on Shea. Wenger basically says Shea is only with Aresnal to train and has no chance of playing for them. Wenger even says Shea is a defender meaning he has no idea about Shea. Shea went to train with Arsenal because Klinnsman begged Wenger. Shea trained with the youth squads the entire time.
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Post by Jimm on Jul 10, 2013 0:08:30 GMT
Is there any chance he'll start for USA tonight?
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Post by eddy on Jul 10, 2013 3:04:49 GMT
He isn't starting.
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Post by mailman44 on Jul 10, 2013 3:46:27 GMT
Nope.
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Post by rxc9 on Jul 10, 2013 4:25:21 GMT
Shea's come on as a sub (60th min)
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2013 11:46:11 GMT
How did the calamity kid do?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 10, 2013 12:38:09 GMT
Never going to forc his way into a premier league first team . Chelsea and arsenal obviously thought the same when they were trying to sign him This never happened btw.
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Post by rxc9 on Jul 10, 2013 13:50:40 GMT
How did the calamity kid do? Definitely got the up on Etherington, (not that hard considering Matty's form), but like last time we are talking about Shea against Belize here... He did earn the free-kick for USA that lead to their (5th?) goal after some good play. +ves:He can motor when getting a chance to open his legs up Got into decent positions/made good runs (again; Belize defence though, but the movement was there) Put in some nice balls in to the box Actually tracked back really well, could tell his pace when sprinting back to defend, but... -ves:There was nothing to note in the tackling whatsoever, bit rash (gave away a few fouls) and don't think he had a 'good' challenge to mention of Decision making was a little off, could have made better choices on occasions Needs to become a bit less predictable Just my opinion on what I saw of him last night
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Post by kennedy on Jul 10, 2013 15:05:39 GMT
How did the calamity kid do? Definitely got the up on Etherington, (not that hard considering Matty's form), but like last time we are talking about Shea against Belize here... He did earn the free-kick for USA that lead to their (5th?) goal after some good play. +ves:He can motor when getting a chance to open his legs upGot into decent positions/made good runs (again; Belize defence though, but the movement was there) Put in some nice balls in to the box Actually tracked back really well, could tell his pace when sprinting back to defend, but... -ves:There was nothing to note in the tackling whatsoever, bit rash (gave away a few fouls) and don't think he had a 'good' challenge to mention of Decision making was a little off, could have made better choices on occasions Needs to become a bit less predictable Just my opinion on what I saw of him last night Yep. Not only does shea visually resemble a horse. He runs like one too. Average acceleration, but really motors when going.
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Post by frumpy on Jul 11, 2013 2:56:04 GMT
Anybody seen these 2 videos of Brek? JTS The first video is a diss on Shea. Wenger basically says Shea is only with Aresnal to train and has no chance of playing for them. Wenger even says Shea is a defender meaning he has no idea about Shea. Shea went to train with Arsenal because Klinnsman begged Wenger. Shea trained with the youth squads the entire time. No he didn't. Do you try to make every one of your posts as dumb as possible? He trained with the 1st team the entire time, along with Henry and Henry spoke afterwards about how impressed he was with Brek. And, there's pictures of Shea training with the 1st team. Does that look like the youth squad to you? Go back to humping goats, hillbilly.
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