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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2013 19:43:00 GMT
Go on then Bayern,I'm intrigued There'll be some names that people will laugh at but I genuinely wouldn't want them; Ben Foster- makes a mistake every about third game, a proper dracula 'keeper, I can't stand him. Rob Green- just wank Glen Johnson- the man can't defend and is a massive liability, I honestly wouldn't want him. Michael Dawson- I just don't get him, never liked him, never will, didn't want him when we were linked with him last season. Gary Cahill- just fucking awful. Phil Jones as a centre back- see Gary Cahill but he's weaker than Cahill, he's a midfielder and I've have him like a shot there. Chris Smalling- much like Dawson I just can't see the fuss and he's a liability imo. Leon Osman- too old. Jonjo Shelvey- League One player. Stuck on 9, gutted. But of the current and recent squads there are some uncapped ones I wouldn't touch with a bargepole-Forster, McCarthy and Steven Taylor. I nearly went for Sterling too but the lad needs time to see if he'll go the route of a Lennon (alright but not that great) or Pennant. Good effort Bayern I reckon,apart from Rob Green,every single one of the names you have mentioned would improve our squad no end.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 11, 2013 20:19:13 GMT
There'll be some names that people will laugh at but I genuinely wouldn't want them; Ben Foster- makes a mistake every about third game, a proper dracula 'keeper, I can't stand him. Rob Green- just wank Glen Johnson- the man can't defend and is a massive liability, I honestly wouldn't want him. Michael Dawson- I just don't get him, never liked him, never will, didn't want him when we were linked with him last season. Gary Cahill- just fucking awful. Phil Jones as a centre back- see Gary Cahill but he's weaker than Cahill, he's a midfielder and I've have him like a shot there. Chris Smalling- much like Dawson I just can't see the fuss and he's a liability imo. Leon Osman- too old. Jonjo Shelvey- League One player. Stuck on 9, gutted. But of the current and recent squads there are some uncapped ones I wouldn't touch with a bargepole-Forster, McCarthy and Steven Taylor. I nearly went for Sterling too but the lad needs time to see if he'll go the route of a Lennon (alright but not that great) or Pennant. Good effort Bayern I reckon,apart from Rob Green,every single one of the names you have mentioned would improve our squad no end. The squad maybe but everyone one of those names would cost upwards of 5 million of the finest British poounds. A squad filler for 5 million? No ta. None of the centre halves are better than our 2. The 'keepers aren't better than our 2. Osman is better than our central midfielders but would cost too much for his age. Shelvey is just wank. So yeah I want none of them unless we get some rich Arab and can afford to have Cahill as Ryan's boot cleaner, it's all he's good for.
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Post by johnsmithsupper on Jun 11, 2013 20:42:58 GMT
shelvey produced yet another example tonight of why we shouldnt touch him with a bargepole
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Post by RAF on Jun 11, 2013 22:49:39 GMT
shelvey produced yet another example tonight of why we shouldnt touch him with a bargepole Spot on JSU, his complete ignorance saw their goal in! No challenge , no arse! H
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Post by stokemanusa on Jun 11, 2013 23:25:29 GMT
shelvey produced yet another example tonight of why we shouldnt touch him with a bargepole He was bad tonite for sure.
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Post by mamasidibescfc on Jun 12, 2013 6:33:05 GMT
PLEASE NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! i HATE HIM! HE IS SHIT!
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Post by Kjones9 on Jun 12, 2013 10:00:47 GMT
Bayern, why don't you create a list (although it would be a very small one) of players you do actually like? It'd be a lot easier.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 12, 2013 10:07:14 GMT
shelvey produced yet another example tonight of why we shouldnt touch him with a bargepole Spot on JSU, his complete ignorance saw their goal in! No challenge , no arse! H Take it you're looking for Butland to be sold immediately as well then?
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Post by RAF on Jun 12, 2013 10:36:37 GMT
Spot on JSU, his complete ignorance saw their goal in! No challenge , no arse! H Take it you're looking for Butland to be sold immediately as well then? :) Why? Steele was in nets. H
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 12, 2013 10:38:13 GMT
Take it you're looking for Butland to be sold immediately as well then? Why? Steele was in nets. H He had two pretty dubious games prior to that. Must be wank by your and JSU's methods
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Post by RAF on Jun 12, 2013 10:44:12 GMT
Why? Steele was in nets. H He had two pretty dubious games prior to that. Must be wank by your and JSU's methods :) I didn't think he had a bad game against Norway. Caulker was fucking shocking. To be fair none of us know if Butland will work out or not, but from what I've seen of him he looks decent. Shelvey on the other hand from what I've seen of him which is quite a bit is poor. H
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Post by onionman on Jun 12, 2013 17:40:48 GMT
Can you include Carlton Cole? I agree with your list, apart from Osman who would be good for us despite not being young. I guess I can! I like Osman but wouldn't want him because of his age. Henderson is another one like Sterling. I have a feeling both will be decent enough players but I just dunna like the pair of them. John Ruddy, Nicky Shorey and Stephen Warnock too. The list of crap England internationals still supposedly in their prime years is quite long, and that's not even counting the likes of Jenas, Dyer and Wright-Phillips who haven't been worth touching with a barge pole since they were 25. Is Michael Ricketts still playing?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 12, 2013 18:03:30 GMT
I guess I can! I like Osman but wouldn't want him because of his age. Henderson is another one like Sterling. I have a feeling both will be decent enough players but I just dunna like the pair of them. John Ruddy, Nicky Shorey and Stephen Warnock too. The list of crap England internationals still supposedly in their prime years is quite long, and that's not even counting the likes of Jenas, Dyer and Wright-Phillips who haven't been worth touching with a barge pole since they were 25. Is Michael Ricketts still playing? I could live with Ruddy, he seems a bit less error strewn than Foster and Forster (sounds like a shit law firm) for me. He isn't but David Nugent still is and he's played for England. I'm looking at a full list now and there's some good uns. Frazier Campbell Jay Bothroyd Bobby Zamora Kevin Davies Scott Carson David Bentley Joey Barton Zat Knight apparently has 2, I never knew that! Deary me.
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Post by onionman on Jun 12, 2013 18:09:13 GMT
John Ruddy, Nicky Shorey and Stephen Warnock too. The list of crap England internationals still supposedly in their prime years is quite long, and that's not even counting the likes of Jenas, Dyer and Wright-Phillips who haven't been worth touching with a barge pole since they were 25. Is Michael Ricketts still playing? I could live with Ruddy, he seems a bit less error strewn than Foster and Forster (sounds like a shit law firm) for me. He isn't but David Nugent still is and he's played for England. I'm looking at a full list now and there's some good uns. Frazier Campbell Jay Bothroyd Bobby Zamora Kevin Davies Scott Carson David Bentley Joey Barton Zat Knight apparently has 2, I never knew that! Deary me. Don't forget Anthony Gardner. There's always been the occasional average journeyman who gets lucky with a few England appearances - Carlton Palmer, Geoff Thomas and Andy Sinton was a pretty shocking midfield in the early 90s. But there's never seemed to be so many woeful England internationals floating around all at once. There's a whole swarm of them.
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Post by dutchstokie on Jun 12, 2013 18:14:49 GMT
Hi all. If you have been listening to the KnotFM Sunday Sports Show tonight you would of heard that according to a chap who works on SSN Jonjo Shelvey is 70% done to join stoke for £6.5m. Should be interesting see if there is anything in it. Lets hope then the 30% is complete knobcheese then
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 12, 2013 18:20:13 GMT
I could live with Ruddy, he seems a bit less error strewn than Foster and Forster (sounds like a shit law firm) for me. He isn't but David Nugent still is and he's played for England. I'm looking at a full list now and there's some good uns. Frazier Campbell Jay Bothroyd Bobby Zamora Kevin Davies Scott Carson David Bentley Joey Barton Zat Knight apparently has 2, I never knew that! Deary me. Don't forget Anthony Gardner. There's always been the occasional average journeyman who gets lucky with a few England appearances - Carlton Palmer, Geoff Thomas and Andy Sinton was a pretty shocking midfield in the early 90s. But there's never seemed to be so many woeful England internationals floating around all at once. There's a whole swarm of them. There are and then there's the first teamers who I mentioned in my first list who I wouldn't want which is more worrying. The level of talent is criminal really. Look at Walcott, he's meant to be one of England's best but he's a dreadful footballer, he's a sprinter who can finish.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jun 12, 2013 18:27:17 GMT
Don't forget Anthony Gardner. There's always been the occasional average journeyman who gets lucky with a few England appearances - Carlton Palmer, Geoff Thomas and Andy Sinton was a pretty shocking midfield in the early 90s. But there's never seemed to be so many woeful England internationals floating around all at once. There's a whole swarm of them. There are and then there's the first teamers who I mentioned in my first list who I wouldn't want which is more worrying. The level of talent is criminal really. Look at Walcott, he's meant to be one of England's best but he's a dreadful footballer, he's a sprinter who can finish. Haha so true... I think I can count his crossing attempts one my hand for England. He's good when he takes on players bit all around player? Naw.
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Post by onionman on Jun 12, 2013 18:36:37 GMT
Don't forget Anthony Gardner. There's always been the occasional average journeyman who gets lucky with a few England appearances - Carlton Palmer, Geoff Thomas and Andy Sinton was a pretty shocking midfield in the early 90s. But there's never seemed to be so many woeful England internationals floating around all at once. There's a whole swarm of them. There are and then there's the first teamers who I mentioned in my first list who I wouldn't want which is more worrying. The level of talent is criminal really. Look at Walcott, he's meant to be one of England's best but he's a dreadful footballer, he's a sprinter who can finish. The likes of Walcott, Lennon, Wright-Phillips, Ashley Young and Sterling make rapid progress in the Premier League simply by being took fast for the likes of Danny Collins. They get rich and famous so quickly they don't bother working at other aspects of their game like developing a football brain which would make them into proper footballers. As a footballing country, we're reaping what we've sowed by handing out excessive rewards to mediocrity.
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Post by redditchpotter on Jun 12, 2013 19:22:46 GMT
Aaron Lennon is another one.....all speed and no delivery......now if you could cross him with Pennant....speed and delivery,he would be world class
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Post by Beardy200 on Jun 12, 2013 19:24:50 GMT
Don't forget Anthony Gardner. There's always been the occasional average journeyman who gets lucky with a few England appearances - Carlton Palmer, Geoff Thomas and Andy Sinton was a pretty shocking midfield in the early 90s. But there's never seemed to be so many woeful England internationals floating around all at once. There's a whole swarm of them. There are and then there's the first teamers who I mentioned in my first list who I wouldn't want which is more worrying. The level of talent is criminal really. Look at Walcott, he's meant to be one of England's best but he's a dreadful footballer, he's a sprinter who can finish. Similar to Jerome except he's a sprinter who ..... ahh fuck it, you know the rest.
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Post by redditchpotter on Jun 12, 2013 19:26:05 GMT
lol
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Post by chrispk76 on Jun 12, 2013 19:51:19 GMT
I do think we have to try and pick up more young talent that want regular first team footy in the premier league and are likely to improve as they hit their peak (27-28). players like Karl jenkinson , seamus Coleman , Danny rose , Marc albrighton , Gael kakuta , lukaku , James McLean , andros Townsend , Anthony pilkington , junior hoillet , Thomas ince , Wigans McCarthy & MacArthur, wanyama . Lee I'm sure there's plenty of others around , I can't comment on young foreigners as I don't get to see many of their games.
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Post by vahl on Jun 12, 2013 20:02:26 GMT
I do think we have to try and pick up more young talent that want regular first team footy in the premier league and are likely to improve as they hit their peak (27-28). players like Karl jenkinson , seamus Coleman , Danny rose , Marc albrighton , Gael kakuta , lukaku , James McLean , andros Townsend , Anthony pilkington , junior hoillet , Thomas ince , Wigans McCarthy & MacArthur, wanyama . Lee I'm sure there's plenty of others around , I can't comment on young foreigners as I don't get to see many of their games. Out of 15 names mentioned, at least 9 of them are foreign to my knowledge. You seem to have a pretty good idea of young foreigners.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jun 12, 2013 20:29:27 GMT
Nothing special about Shelvey so why should we pay that kind of money for him? Would rather play Cameron there instead of bringing Shelvey in!
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Post by chrispk76 on Jun 12, 2013 21:04:19 GMT
I do think we have to try and pick up more young talent that want regular first team footy in the premier league and are likely to improve as they hit their peak (27-28). players like Karl jenkinson , seamus Coleman , Danny rose , Marc albrighton , Gael kakuta , lukaku , James McLean , andros Townsend , Anthony pilkington , junior hoillet , Thomas ince , Wigans McCarthy & MacArthur, wanyama . Lee I'm sure there's plenty of others around , I can't comment on young foreigners as I don't get to see many of their games. Out of 15 names mentioned, at least 9 of them are foreign to my knowledge. You seem to have a pretty good idea of young foreigners.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jun 12, 2013 22:09:57 GMT
Nothing special about Shelvey so why should we pay that kind of money for him? Would rather play Cameron there instead of bringing Shelvey in! Too logical, shitbin.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jun 13, 2013 5:54:52 GMT
Nothing special about Shelvey so why should we pay that kind of money for him? Would rather play Cameron there instead of bringing Shelvey in! Playing Geoff in a position he plays for internationally ?.....Our old leader's cap would be spinning on his head with that notion!
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Post by jollypotter88 on Jun 13, 2013 12:18:38 GMT
Nothing special about Shelvey so why should we pay that kind of money for him? Would rather play Cameron there instead of bringing Shelvey in! Playing Geoff in a position he plays for internationally ?.....Our old leader's cap would be spinning on his head with that notion! As I mentioned on the show last Sunday. It is now down to Cameron, Wilson etc to show the manager and plead with him to let them show him how they perform at CM/natural positions. Only they can prove themselves and only they can convince him in training and by performing for their countries. If they don't push it they will stick to the defensive roles they got under TP.
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