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Post by YounginStoke on Jun 10, 2013 17:30:47 GMT
Indeed it is if we are even considering playing 6.5 million for him. H We payed 6 rising to 8 for Palacios, still frightening?
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Post by iglugluk on Jun 10, 2013 17:31:39 GMT
Shelvey is not as bad as some above make out, but at £6.5m he would represent a very bad buy for us - using a large amount of the transfer kitty on a player who is only marginally better, if at all, than those he would replace. Is it possible to buy a player that is worse than Whelan? You can't be referring to the player that was the glue that held the team together, surely?!
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Post by RAF on Jun 10, 2013 17:32:02 GMT
Indeed it is if we are even considering playing 6.5 million for him. H We payed 6 rising to 8 for Palacios, still frightening? That was another fuck up and yes it's still frightening. H
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Post by Beardy200 on Jun 10, 2013 17:34:12 GMT
Desperately hope we don't sign Shelvey. The guy couldn't trap a bag of cement. Have you ever tried trapping a bag of cement? It's not as easy as you might think,especially with today's boots being so thin on the protection front. Shelvey is a lot better player than you lot on here are giving him credit for. It wasn't so long ago everyone was saying the same about a certain mr Henderson,and he was comfortably Liverpools most improved player last season. He certainly was - he improved from being complete and utter dog shit to just well below average. I can see both of them finally maturing into somebody like Steve Sidwell. I can live without him and i can live without them. I want to see some young players who have time on the ball, ball control and vision. We've had enough 'tryers' to last us a lifetime and i can't see Shelvey ever being better than that.
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Post by YounginStoke on Jun 10, 2013 17:34:46 GMT
We payed 6 rising to 8 for Palacios, still frightening? That was another fuck up and yes it's still frightening. H The price may be inflated slightly but that's todays current market, Carroll for 35 etc, he'd be a good addition, a better player than Whelan with more experience at a younger age and much more potential
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Post by westpoint on Jun 10, 2013 17:35:03 GMT
Unfortunately YounginStoke your wasting your time.
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Post by hiscoxy on Jun 10, 2013 17:37:23 GMT
I'd rather sign Titus Bramble on a free, play him left back and push Wilson into CM.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 17:46:16 GMT
Is it possible to buy a player that is worse than Whelan? You can't be referring to the player that was the glue that held the team together, surely?! Yes I am. And don't call me Shirley. Whelan used to be half decent but he's been garbage the past couple of years. Garbage for his country too.
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Post by RAF on Jun 10, 2013 17:57:43 GMT
That was another fuck up and yes it's still frightening. H The price may be inflated slightly but that's todays current market, Carroll for 35 etc, he'd be a good addition, a better player than Whelan with more experience at a younger age and much more potential Like I've said, if he has all this potential, why would they let him go? They don't rate him. H
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Post by iglugluk on Jun 10, 2013 18:01:36 GMT
You can't be referring to the player that was the glue that held the team together, surely?! Yes I am. And don't call me Shirley. Whelan used to be half decent but he's been garbage the past couple of years. Garbage for his country too. Airplane...... 'fraid I can't add anything to the debate on your Whelan point as I find myself in total agreement
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Post by stokemanusa on Jun 10, 2013 18:02:20 GMT
Is it possible to buy a player that is worse than Whelan? I will say Whelan is still a better player than Shelvey from what I've seen. The myth Whelan is so bad is just bullshit in my opinion. OK, he is a bit limited, but he has also played a lot of decent games for us! That is if you really bother to notice! A lot of people criticize Wheland for blowing hot and cold, but what about Shelvey then!!!? No Whelan. He is shit, he offers nothing to out side a championship player couldn't do. He doesn't score goals imo he's a wasted spot. Shelvey atleast scores mote goals but 6.5mil is wank for him. 2.5 and he or a young championship player would do us more good. If Whelan starts we will be relegated.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 10, 2013 18:07:46 GMT
The price may be inflated slightly but that's todays current market, Carroll for 35 etc, he'd be a good addition, a better player than Whelan with more experience at a younger age and much more potential Like I've said, if he has all this potential, why would they let him go? They don't rate him. H You're right to an extent me old spunk trumpet but you'd have to say that Andy Carroll is wank as well though on that logic. Brendan has an affinity with effete prancers who can pass a ball 3 feet 150 times a game ala Joe Allan, the fact he doesn't rate Shelvey doesn't necessarily mean he's wank. Rogers in his own way is as one eyed as Tone ever was.
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Post by RAF on Jun 10, 2013 18:11:04 GMT
Like I've said, if he has all this potential, why would they let him go? They don't rate him. H You're right to an extent me old spunk trumpet but you'd have to say that Andy Carroll is wank as well though on that logic. Brendan has an affinity with effete prancers who can pass a ball 3 feet 150 times a game ala Joe Allan, the fact he doesn't rate Shelvey doesn't necessarily mean he's wank. Rogers in his own way is as one eyed as Tone ever was. You have to wonder how Jordon Henderson is still getting a game then? He can't pass for horse spunk! H
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Post by keasie1863 on Jun 10, 2013 18:11:44 GMT
I tell you what "fuck off up the vale".pathetic post.imho. To coin the Bender from Futurama phrase 'why don't you bite my shiny metal butt' Just cos my view may differ from the rest does not mean it cannot be mentioned you bell end. Ooohhhh matron
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Post by werrington on Jun 10, 2013 18:14:42 GMT
Some players have their club or level and maybe Liverpool was not the club for Shelvey
Much the same as Mark Stein was shit at Oxford and Mike Sheron was shit at Norwich
I could go on but you get my drift so Liverpool agreeing to sell him means nothing about the player himself
He would be a superb signing
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jun 10, 2013 18:26:19 GMT
Some players have their club or level and maybe Liverpool was not the club for Shelvey Much the same as Mark Stein was shit at Oxford and Mike Sheron was shit at Norwich I could go on but you get my drift so Liverpool agreeing to sell him means nothing about the player himself He would be a superb signing I can't say I've taken much notice of him, Wezza. Why do you rate him so highly, and who would you play him alongside?
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Post by silverdollar on Jun 10, 2013 18:32:12 GMT
Shelvey is considered one of the top young English players who has featured at International level. He has also played in a Liverpool side when asked to play in a forward position and done a decent job. At just 21 this player will certainly get better with good coaching and more experience. Our team has been crying out for a bit of new blood. I believe that signing players such as this does involve risk but it is a risk worth taking. Our midfield under Pulis were just workhorses. If we are to evolve into a better team that is a little more cultured I believe Shelvey fits the bill. We haven't signed him yet but for me it is great that a player such as this is willing to join the new revolution under Hughes. Just start getting behind whatever happens and give the management a chance!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 18:38:32 GMT
Have you ever tried trapping a bag of cement? It's not as easy as you might think,especially with today's boots being so thin on the protection front. Shelvey is a lot better player than you lot on here are giving him credit for. It wasn't so long ago everyone was saying the same about a certain mr Henderson,and he was comfortably Liverpools most improved player last season. He certainly was - he improved from being complete and utter dog shit to just well below average. I can see both of them finally maturing into somebody like Steve Sidwell. I can live without him and i can live without them. I want to see some young players who have time on the ball, ball control and vision. We've had enough 'tryers' to last us a lifetime and i can't see Shelvey ever being better than that. All about opinions Beardy. In my opinion, if we stuck Henderson and Shelvey into our midfield tomorrow,all the Stoke fans saying that they are shit would soon change their minds. From what I've seen and from what I've been told by three season ticket holders at Liverpool,it's clear in my head that Shelvey isn't as bad as a lot of people are saying on here. Like I said earlier he is 21 years old and nowhere near hi best,yet he is streets ahead of 99% of the midfielders we have already at our disposal.
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Post by werrington on Jun 10, 2013 18:41:04 GMT
Some players have their club or level and maybe Liverpool was not the club for Shelvey Much the same as Mark Stein was shit at Oxford and Mike Sheron was shit at Norwich I could go on but you get my drift so Liverpool agreeing to sell him means nothing about the player himself He would be a superb signing I can't say I've taken much notice of him, Wezza. Why do you rate him so highly, and who would you play him alongside? He is an attacking midfield player who gets up and down the pitch and can score goals He is also an England international mate
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 18:48:09 GMT
I can't say I've taken much notice of him, Wezza. Why do you rate him so highly, and who would you play him alongside? He is an attacking midfield player who gets up and down the pitch and can score goals He is also an England international mate That's probably why a lot on here are slating him then. It's all coming to light now,they have forgotten that a midfielder can actually get forward and chip in with goals. It's frightening the fuck out of em
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jun 10, 2013 18:49:02 GMT
I can't say I've taken much notice of him, Wezza. Why do you rate him so highly, and who would you play him alongside? He is an attacking midfield player who gets up and down the pitch and can score goals He is also an England international mate Yeah, I wasn't taking the piss or owt; he's genuinely not a player I have seen much of. He must be better than Whelan or Whitehead, though, so I'll trust you and Hughesy on this one.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 19:00:59 GMT
Good player, I'd like to see him in our midfield. £6.5m is reasonable.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 10, 2013 19:04:55 GMT
Watching him in Europe last season he scored a few goals and looked decent. However, in the league I can't recall him doing anything spectacular. In summary.. wouldn't be arsed either way.
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Post by lastoftheldk on Jun 10, 2013 19:13:05 GMT
6.5 million is way too much for him or any player, but him and Whelan would make a good partnership in our midfield, also liked the way Shelvey told Fergie what he thought when he was sent off during their match
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Post by unknown182 on Jun 10, 2013 19:29:34 GMT
He's only being valued at 6.5m because he's an England international. He's far from my first choice signing. But he might develop into a better player given regular playing time.
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Post by ruarig on Jun 10, 2013 19:32:03 GMT
Have to say I think he's a decent player..... Up until Christmas Liverpool were raving about him. Think he'd do a great job for us in due course.
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Post by cmc89 on Jun 10, 2013 19:34:58 GMT
Stoke fans: Sign youth! We want players with potential and sell on value
Media: Shelvey linked with Stoke
Stoke fans: Fuck that/He's shit/How's he an international?/My grandma is better
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Post by PenkPonther on Jun 10, 2013 22:24:03 GMT
I spoke to Shelvey on the phone a few days ago; he is a customer of the bank I work for. Unfortunately I was too professional/businesslike to talk about football transfer gossip with him... Sorry all!
For what it's worth though, I at least got the impression that he was polite, normal and down-to-earth, and he didn't seem like some of the other chavvy, arrogant, spoiled celebrity brats I've had to deal with.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 10, 2013 22:30:50 GMT
Whether it's a bullshit link or not I fear that people who think that Shelvey is not of sufficient quality for us are in for a very long depressing summer. Keeping Whelan over that piece of shit will keep me happy. Easily pleased me when it comes to Shelvey not signing.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 10, 2013 22:34:21 GMT
I can't say I've taken much notice of him, Wezza. Why do you rate him so highly, and who would you play him alongside? He is an attacking midfield player who gets up and down the pitch and can score goals He is also an England international mate I could name You at least 10 current England internationals I wouldn't want us to sign, it means fuck all.
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