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Post by smigchop on Apr 23, 2013 12:29:34 GMT
IMO this is complete balls.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 23, 2013 12:49:35 GMT
I'm running out of ways to spell this out so I'll just try stating the bald fact one last time.Whether we beat Norwich or not there is no way we will be safe or anything like it going in to the Spurs game.As a consequence of that there is no way on the earth the incumbent (and soon to be outgoing in some people's opinion) manager will be jogging round the pitch doffing his cap at the adoring masses and generally milking the applause as the PA man announces his departure. It simply won't happen until the Chairman knows the Premier League Sky money is safely in his pocket for next season. Anything else would be sheer folly. I've no idea how you can say that with such certainity Gods. If we beat Norwich and get a point at Sunderland then we'll be safe if Wigan don't get anything against Spurs or West Brom - which is entirely possible. If Villa and Wigan lose this weekend and we beat Norwich, then Villa and Wigan would have to win remain all their remaining games and draw with each other on the last day of the season and we would have to not pick up another single point. We could very well be safe by the time the Suderland game is over, not saying that we will be but to say that there's no chance of it happening is way off the mark.
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Post by BuzzB on Apr 23, 2013 13:45:02 GMT
Gods, it only takes Wigan to lose at home to Spurs and away to West Brom for them to be in an almost impossible position to overhaul us if we beat Norwich. We'd have 40 points and they'd be 9 behind us needing 10 points to overtake us given the huge disparity in the goal difference. Basically, if we beat Norwich, Wigan need 3 wins and a draw from their last 5 games to overtake us. So, it isn't cut and dried at the moment but it could well be game over by the time we play Surs. I know Lakeland, but we're surely not going to plan a sending off party for the manager on that balance of probabilities? And anyway the Chairman will want nothing to distract the manager and players from the job in hand here which is no less than our very future. If there is any credability in this, I would imagine the decision to announce a parting of the ways prior to Spuds was made before we drove down shit street.
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Post by Gods on Apr 23, 2013 13:49:52 GMT
I'm running out of ways to spell this out so I'll just try stating the bald fact one last time.Whether we beat Norwich or not there is no way we will be safe or anything like it going in to the Spurs game.As a consequence of that there is no way on the earth the incumbent (and soon to be outgoing in some people's opinion) manager will be jogging round the pitch doffing his cap at the adoring masses and generally milking the applause as the PA man announces his departure. It simply won't happen until the Chairman knows the Premier League Sky money is safely in his pocket for next season. Anything else would be sheer folly. I've no idea how you can say that with such certainity Gods. If we beat Norwich and get a point at Sunderland then we'll be safe if Wigan don't get anything against Spurs or West Brom - which is entirely possible. If Villa and Wigan lose this weekend and we beat Norwich, then Villa and Wigan would have to win remain all their remaining games and draw with each other on the last day of the season and we would have to not pick up another single point. We could very well be safe by the time the Suderland game is over, not saying that we will be but to say that there's no chance of it happening is way off the mark. Fair enough Paul but I don't think we will plan a party around it. It would have to be done in advance and my strong suspicion is that no one has even told Tony he is leaving yet. Actually my strong suspicion is that he is not leaving at all but that's another story.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 23, 2013 13:54:40 GMT
I've no idea how you can say that with such certainity Gods. If we beat Norwich and get a point at Sunderland then we'll be safe if Wigan don't get anything against Spurs or West Brom - which is entirely possible. If Villa and Wigan lose this weekend and we beat Norwich, then Villa and Wigan would have to win remain all their remaining games and draw with each other on the last day of the season and we would have to not pick up another single point. We could very well be safe by the time the Suderland game is over, not saying that we will be but to say that there's no chance of it happening is way off the mark. Fair enough Paul but I don't think we will plan a party around it. It would have to be done in advance and my strong suspicion is that no one has even told Tony he is leaving yet. Actually my strong suspicion is that he is not leaving at all but that's another story. For sure mate but obviously that's a different point. I was just saying that if it has been agreed all round that Tone is off in the summer, then it would make perfect sense (if we are safe) to announce it before the Spurs game. There wouldn't be a lot of planning to do, they'd announce it or they wouldn't, nowt else would change.
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Post by jezzascfc on Apr 23, 2013 13:55:36 GMT
Gods, have you not considered that, if KKK is right, this Pulis send off may have been in the offing for many months? It could have been decided around Xmas, when the idea that we would be in relegation trouble right now must have seemed pure fantasy.
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Post by jezzascfc on Apr 23, 2013 13:55:49 GMT
double post.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 23, 2013 13:56:38 GMT
Gods, it only takes Wigan to lose at home to Spurs and away to West Brom for them to be in an almost impossible position to overhaul us if we beat Norwich. We'd have 40 points and they'd be 9 behind us needing 10 points to overtake us given the huge disparity in the goal difference. Basically, if we beat Norwich, Wigan need 3 wins and a draw from their last 5 games to overtake us. So, it isn't cut and dried at the moment but it could well be game over by the time we play Surs. I know Lakeland, but we're surely not going to plan a sending off party for the manager on that balance of probabilities? And anyway the Chairman will want nothing to distract the manager and players from the job in hand here which is no less than our very future. Who said we are planning a sending off Party? We are planning to celebrate our 150th anniversary at the game. And (if KKK is to be believed) if we are safe by then, we will, in the days before the game, announce TP's imminent departure at the end of the season. I don't see any planning is needed. If announced TP's impending departure is simply another thing for fans to get ecstatic/excited/suicidal/nostalgic/appreciative * about on the day. * Delete as appropriate.
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 23, 2013 16:43:45 GMT
I know Lakeland, but we're surely not going to plan a sending off party for the manager on that balance of probabilities? And anyway the Chairman will want nothing to distract the manager and players from the job in hand here which is no less than our very future. Who said we are planning a sending off Party? We are planning to celebrate our 150th anniversary at the game. And (if KKK is to be believed) if we are safe by then, we will, in the days before the game, announce TP's imminent departure at the end of the season. I don't see any planning is needed. If announced TP's impending departure is simply another thing for fans to get ecstatic/excited/suicidal/nostalgic/appreciative * about on the day. * Delete as appropriate. Yeah - I think Coates would view it as an important part of TP leaving with a bit of dignity and propriety. He'd probably want it to be seen as well managed and spun to be as far away from a hounded/sacking/forced out by mob scenario as they possibly could. The fact the Sky cameras will be there covering it live is a big bonus. A stage-managed set-piece show of gratitude in front of an appreciative crowd is potentially quite an important part of that. And Spurs is the only chance for it to happen.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2013 16:48:22 GMT
Would they really make an announcement at a match? I would have thought after the last match (probably the following day)a press release, and press conference.
That's all.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2013 16:50:45 GMT
If I had to make a bet on the matter - I think that I would bet on TP staying. Despite all of the rumours ....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2013 23:42:58 GMT
Was that a thread stopper?
I can't see any evidence at all that TP is going. Apart from the odd (or many) rumours here ...
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Post by bozlemandy on Apr 24, 2013 0:10:42 GMT
Heard from good (reasonable) source down south that John Coates is arranging honourable way out for TP to go to AFC Bornemouth (family reasons) and Eddie Howe to come to Brit with some compensation going Bournemouth's way.
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Post by thevoid on Apr 24, 2013 0:39:01 GMT
OOOOOOOOOOOOS IN THE HOUSE?
PULIS IN THE HOUSE! That's one of the funniest things I've ever seen And I've seen this:
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Post by Old School Stokie on Apr 24, 2013 20:30:39 GMT
Most of this Post is totally deluded and unbelievably funny. Listen being a little in the family know Pulis will be manager next year. Sorry to disappoint but even Davesviews couldn't predict this amount of absolute bullshit
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Post by 1982stokie on Apr 24, 2013 21:30:35 GMT
Most of this Post is totally deluded and unbelievably funny. Listen being a little in the family know Pulis will be manager next year. Sorry to disappoint but even Davesviews couldn't predict this amount of absolute bullshit Thanks not only can I not wait for this season to be over I carnt wait for next season to be over now
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Post by Kjones9 on Apr 24, 2013 21:43:33 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 24, 2013 21:47:58 GMT
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Post by shiftyfifty on Apr 24, 2013 21:51:09 GMT
F*ck me, the writer has obviously been looking on this site.
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Post by apb1979 on Apr 24, 2013 21:52:13 GMT
I think a certain journalist has been reading this thread.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 24, 2013 21:54:58 GMT
I think a certain journalist has been reading this thread. Looks that way!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2013 21:56:37 GMT
Just posted this, didn't realise it was here already! Seems a bit odd, not sure if I could believe it.
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 24, 2013 21:58:02 GMT
John Cross TwitterI see u hav been reading the oatcake messageboard with your article about Pulis leaving. Sorry to disappoint you but I've never had an oatcake let alone read one. PS. I think he should stay.
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Post by apb1979 on Apr 24, 2013 21:58:32 GMT
I think a certain journalist has been reading this thread. Looks that way! I've tweeted him & he's replied with never eat an oatcake let alone read one.
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 24, 2013 22:00:13 GMT
It's as if they've been reading through this board.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 24, 2013 22:00:25 GMT
John Cross TwitterI see u hav been reading the oatcake messageboard with your article about Pulis leaving. Sorry to disappoint you but I've never had an oatcake let alone read one. PS. I think he should stay. I don't buy that at all, when I've heard these hacks talk on the radio they seem to be aware that "forums" have been full of anti-Tone material so who is reading them?
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 24, 2013 22:05:17 GMT
John Cross TwitterI see u hav been reading the oatcake messageboard with your article about Pulis leaving. Sorry to disappoint you but I've never had an oatcake let alone read one. PS. I think he should stay. I don't buy that at all, when I've heard these hacks talk on the radio they seem to be aware that "forums" have been full of anti-Tone material so who is reading them? It certainly reads as a straight lift from this thread - apart from the misleading sub-heading about him actually leaving as soon as we're safe. I suppose it's possible Cross' info may just correspond with KKK's because it's actually true - but that may be giving Cross too much credit. Although he does seem a relatively well-connected journo?
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 24, 2013 22:05:56 GMT
Mr Cross - if you're reading this, we know that you're lying.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 24, 2013 22:14:21 GMT
If this thread didn't exist, would there be anything in the piece that Cross has written that would seem that ridiculous? I don't think there would, it all seems perfectly plausible, I'd say.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2013 22:15:30 GMT
Wonder if this will flush out a response from the club.
Despite everything that's been written on here, they've refused to be drawn into confirming or denying whether Pulis would be at the club next season.
The reason I've clung to the hope that Pulis would soon be gone is that I'd have expected Coates to have issued a statement backing him to get the club back on track next season, but he's never done so. I thought this might be because the club don't consider the Oatcake to be representative of the true feelings of the fans, but with a story like this, surely they'll need to issue a denial if it really isn't true.
The club's silence could be telling on this one, so we'll have to wait and see what the next couple of days bring I suppose.
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