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Post by TheWiseMaster on Mar 31, 2013 22:18:33 GMT
A disaster for Sunderland, a bigoted hothead who will not be able to exert the same influence over Premier League players as he did over lower League journeymen. Bar the bigoted bit that could be levelled at TP. Lots of stuff has been levelled at TP and most of it, like those comments, are absolute drivel
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Post by foxysgloves on Mar 31, 2013 22:20:22 GMT
A disaster for Sunderland, a bigoted hothead who will not be able to exert the same influence over Premier League players as he did over lower League journeymen. Bar the bigoted bit that could be levelled at TP. Absolutely. Although having got us into the Prem and since kept us there comfortably he probably ranks slightly higher on the achievements rankings than Paolo Di Gestapio (I know they were German but I couldn't think of anything else).
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 31, 2013 22:20:41 GMT
Bar the bigoted bit that could be levelled at TP. Lots of stuff has been levelled at TP and most of it, like those comments, are absolute drivel I think there's a bit of truth in it that he can't handle the more Premier League players. The way Owen and Adam are acting at the moment would testify to that. Bar the bigoted bit that could be levelled at TP. Absolutely. Although having got us into the Prem and since kept us there comfortably he probably ranks slightly higher on the achievements rankings Paolo Di Gestapio (I know they were German but I couldn't think of anything else). Definitely! Paul Di Gestapio is excellent, don't apologise! My Mein Kampf one was truly awful.
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Post by foxysgloves on Mar 31, 2013 22:27:35 GMT
Lots of stuff has been levelled at TP and most of it, like those comments, are absolute drivel I think there's a bit of truth in it that he can't handle the more Premier League players. The way Owen and Adam are acting at the moment would testify to that. Absolutely. Although having got us into the Prem and since kept us there comfortably he probably ranks slightly higher on the achievements rankings Paolo Di Gestapio (I know they were German but I couldn't think of anything else). Definitely! Paul Di Gestapio is excellent, don't apologise! My Mein Kampf one was truly awful. I missed your gag but like the Saddo I am I went and found it. Better than I was expecting! PS I just heard he's keen on bringing in a few new wingers. Funnily enough they all play on the right!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 31, 2013 22:29:39 GMT
I think there's a bit of truth in it that he can't handle the more Premier League players. The way Owen and Adam are acting at the moment would testify to that. Definitely! Paul Di Gestapio is excellent, don't apologise! My Mein Kampf one was truly awful. I missed your gag but like the Saddo I am I went and found it. Better than I was expecting! PS I just heard he's keen on bringing in a few new wingers. Funnily enough they all play on the right! They'll be needed for their Putsch up the table.
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Post by foxysgloves on Mar 31, 2013 22:30:44 GMT
I missed your gag but like the Saddo I am I went and found it. Better than I was expecting! PS I just heard he's keen on bringing in a few new wingers. Funnily enough they all play on the right! They'll be needed for their Putsch up the table. I still think they'll finish Heiler than us.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Mar 31, 2013 22:32:12 GMT
it will be a surprise if it works , think he can be a good coach but if he can blow a gasket at Swindon , highly likely he will up there , nobody seemed to mind him managing Swindon but already his politics are under question
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 31, 2013 22:34:12 GMT
They'll be needed for their Putsch up the table. I still think they'll finish Heiler than us. You could be right, hopefully though we'll both still be in the Premier League Swasticka album.
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Post by foxysgloves on Mar 31, 2013 22:37:03 GMT
I still think they'll finish Heiler than us. You could be right, hopefully though we'll both still be in the Premier League Swasticka album. You win!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 31, 2013 22:38:24 GMT
I had a Messerschmitt (we're both in it) one lined up already!
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 31, 2013 22:52:13 GMT
Bar the bigoted bit that could be levelled at TP. Lots of stuff has been levelled at TP and most of it, like those comments, are absolute drivel Which parts have you got issue with? It's not an over ridiculously thing to suggest is it?
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Post by surreystokie on Apr 1, 2013 10:01:54 GMT
Gods,
I wasn't saying that the appointment of DC was a mess ('though I think it is) but their method of appointing a new manager is. I had thought that Man. Utd were the only club with a dictator.
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Post by Gods on Apr 1, 2013 10:06:36 GMT
Gods, I wasn't saying that the appointment of DC was a mess ('though I think it is) but their method of appointing a new manager is. I had thought that Man. Utd were the only club with a dictator. yeah, I think I understood what you were saying there surrey. In essence you were saying that Sunderland have no "football" people on the board as such so how can they know what they are doing with regard to the appointment of the new manager. Is that right? I suppose my only thoughts on that are first would you really get a better appointment from a football person rather than an enthusiast? I mean we can all read the stats and hear the interviews of any given manager and form an opinion which is at least as valid as that of say a former pro-footballer. And second surely that is how it would work at most clubs? For example we don't have any "football" people on the board at Stoke City so far as I know... Cheers, Gods.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2013 10:10:43 GMT
Gods, I wasn't saying that the appointment of DC was a mess ('though I think it is) but their method of appointing a new manager is. I had thought that Man. Utd were the only club with a dictator. yeah, I think I understood what you were saying there surrey. In essence you were saying that Sunderland have no "football" people on the board as such so how can they know what they are doing with regard to the appointment of the new manager. Is that right? I suppose my only thoughts on that are first would you really get a better appointment from a football person rather than an enthusiast? I mean we can all read the stats and hear the interviews of any given manager and form an opinion which is at least as valid as that of say a former pro-footballer. And second surely that is how it would work at most clubs? For example we don't have any "football" people on the board at Stoke City so far as I know... Cheers, Gods. I think it depends on the definition of 'football person' Gods. I took Surrey's definition to mean peopke with no knowledge or affinity for the game. Coates is clearly a big football fan and has years of experience as chairman, and Scholes has plenty of experience as well, so I guess they'd count as football people? Then again, Niall Quinn is pretty much the definition of the term and some of his appointments at Sunderland left a lot to be desired.
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Post by surreystokie on Apr 1, 2013 10:39:20 GMT
Gods, we all have problems with SCFC, that's what addiction to the club provokes,for the love of it. but please don't say that we don't have any football folk on board!! The chairman and vice-chairman, Keith Humphreys, are Stoke City born and bred. Indeed they are that rarity in the PL, two genuine and lifelong City supporters, who actively watch their team play - and creditably for 95% of our matches, which is an amazing record. Whatever you think of his (present)attitude towards TP, PC is a lifelong committee man, well respected in football circles and one to think before he acts, not a common attribute in professional football, these days.
If you sat where I do, - the first seat in the first row behind the directors box - you would see the often all but empty (apart from family members) first two rows of away seats. Many are abroad, these days, Ellis Short (US Sunderland owner and chairman, but based in London) wasn't even at the SOL this week-end!) and I could go on.... Travelling to a conveniently Midlands-based club is too much for many directors,I'm afraid, the more reason to appreciate ours.
You don't need to be a local man and we are just lucky but you cannot say that Tony Scholes is a foobtall ignoremus, nor Phil Rawlings, though he, sadly, lives too far away (Florida)for on-the-spot administration and active support. Richard Smith, if there via a family interest,looks the part and seems to fit the bill, having done a good job with club bulding works. You have to have board members who have a special talent, but in combination with those who truly understand the game and their club and its history and environment, in particular. SCFC is fortunate to have that mix.
Let's hope that we stay in the PL, which I believe we can do and make progress next season, which is what we all want. That would mean the departure of TP, or (like the his erstwhile stubborn counterpart at Arsenal,)finally agreeing to a major change of management style and tactics.
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Post by surreystokie on Apr 1, 2013 10:39:30 GMT
Gods, we all have problems with SCFC, that's what addiction to the club provokes,for the love of it. but please don't say that we don't have any football folk on board!! The chairman and vice-chairman, Keith Humphreys, are Stoke City born and bred. Indeed they are that rarity in the PL, two genuine and lifelong City supporters, who actively watch their team play - and creditably for 95% of our matches, which is an amazing record. Whatever you think of his (present)attitude towards TP, PC is a lifelong committee man, well respected in football circles and one to think before he acts, not a common attribute in professional football, these days.
If you sat where I do, - the first seat in the first row behind the directors box - you would see the often all but empty (apart from family members) first two rows of away seats. Many are abroad, these days, Ellis Short (US Sunderland owner and chairman, but based in London) wasn't even at the SOL this week-end!) and I could go on.... Travelling to a conveniently Midlands-based club is too much for many directors,I'm afraid, the more reason to appreciate ours.
You don't need to be a local man and we are just lucky but you cannot say that Tony Scholes is a foobtall ignoremus, nor Phil Rawlings, though he, sadly, lives too far away (Florida)for on-the-spot administration and active support. Richard Smith, if there via a family interest,looks the part and seems to fit the bill, having done a good job with club bulding works. You have to have board members who have a special talent, but in combination with those who truly understand the game and their club and its history and environment, in particular. SCFC is fortunate to have that mix.
Let's hope that we stay in the PL, which I believe we can do and make progress next season, which is what we all want. That would mean the departure of TP, or (like the his erstwhile stubborn counterpart at Arsenal,)finally agreeing to a major change of management style and tactics.
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Post by surreystokie on Apr 1, 2013 10:39:45 GMT
Gods, we all have problems with SCFC, that's what addiction to the club provokes,for the love of it. but please don't say that we don't have any football folk on board!! The chairman and vice-chairman, Keith Humphreys, are Stoke City born and bred. Indeed they are that rarity in the PL, two genuine and lifelong City supporters, who actively watch their team play - and creditably for 95% of our matches, which is an amazing record. Whatever you think of his (present)attitude towards TP, PC is a lifelong committee man, well respected in football circles and one to think before he acts, not a common attribute in professional football, these days.
If you sat where I do, - the first seat in the first row behind the directors box - you would see the often all but empty (apart from family members) first two rows of away seats. Many are abroad, these days, Ellis Short (US Sunderland owner and chairman, but based in London) wasn't even at the SOL this week-end!) and I could go on.... Travelling to a conveniently Midlands-based club is too much for many directors,I'm afraid, the more reason to appreciate ours.
You don't need to be a local man and we are just lucky but you cannot say that Tony Scholes is a foobtall ignoremus, nor Phil Rawlings, though he, sadly, lives too far away (Florida)for on-the-spot administration and active support. Richard Smith, if there via a family interest,looks the part and seems to fit the bill, having done a good job with club bulding works. You have to have board members who have a special talent, but in combination with those who truly understand the game and their club and its history and environment, in particular. SCFC is fortunate to have that mix.
Let's hope that we stay in the PL, which I believe we can do and make progress next season, which is what we all want. That would mean the departure of TP, or (like the his erstwhile stubborn counterpart at Arsenal,)finally agreeing to a major change of management style and tactics.
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Post by surreystokie on Apr 1, 2013 10:41:02 GMT
Gods, we all have problems with SCFC, that's what addiction to the club provokes,for the love of it. but please don't say that we don't have any football folk on board!! The chairman and vice-chairman, Keith Humphreys, are Stoke City born and bred. Indeed they are that rarity in the PL, two genuine and lifelong City supporters, who actively watch their team play - and creditably for 95% of our matches, which is an amazing record. Whatever you think of his (present)attitude towards TP, PC is a lifelong committee man, well respected in football circles and one to think before he acts, not a common attribute in professional football, these days.
If you sat where I do, - the first seat in the first row behind the directors box - you would see the often all but empty (apart from family members) first two rows of away seats. Many are abroad, these days, Ellis Short (US Sunderland owner and chairman, but based in London) wasn't even at the SOL this week-end!) and I could go on.... Travelling to a conveniently Midlands-based club is too much for many directors,I'm afraid, the more reason to appreciate ours.
You don't need to be a local man and we are just lucky but you cannot say that Tony Scholes is a foobtall ignoremus, nor Phil Rawlings, though he, sadly, lives too far away (Florida)for on-the-spot administration and active support. Richard Smith, if there via a family interest,looks the part and seems to fit the bill, having done a good job with club bulding works. You have to have board members who have a special talent, but in combination with those who truly understand the game and their club and its history and environment, in particular. SCFC is fortunate to have that mix.
Let's hope that we stay in the PL, which I believe we can do and make progress next season, which is what we all want. That would mean the departure of TP, or (like the his erstwhile stubborn counterpart at Arsenal,)finally agreeing to a major change of management style and tactics.
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Post by surreystokie on Apr 1, 2013 10:44:40 GMT
Oops and I thought that I'd mastered this new set-up. A thousand apologies for making you read me three times, when once is probably more than enough for most of you.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 1, 2013 10:45:36 GMT
Oops and I thought that I'd mastered this new set-up. A thousand apologies for making you read me three times, when once is probably more than enough for most of you. Attention Seeker!
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Post by pickins on Apr 1, 2013 11:10:51 GMT
Can you imagine if Mourinho returns to the prem next season, Fergie stays on and Sunderland stay up? The mind games will be great. I seriously think Di Canio could explode under the pressure. I hope Sunderland stay up now!
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Post by Gods on Apr 1, 2013 11:47:53 GMT
Surrey, I got you the first time Seriously though, I now see what you mean, when you said "football" people on the Board I took it wrongly that you meant former pro-footballers. All points with regard to Peter Coates and Keith Humphrys accepted. Their presence on the board and think bfore they shoot approach is well received, by me anyway!!
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Post by LDE76 on Apr 1, 2013 12:19:48 GMT
From Black Cats to Blackshirts.
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Post by foxysgloves on Apr 1, 2013 13:04:44 GMT
Oops and I thought that I'd mastered this new set-up. A thousand apologies for making you read me three times, when once is probably more than enough for most of you. It's fine. I didn't even read it once.
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Post by stokie25 on Apr 1, 2013 17:10:18 GMT
From Black Cats to Blackshirts. I can see this appointment getting a bit tasty. About time the league got injected with a bit of 'excitement'. *Sits back awaiting Di Canio post match interviews as Sunland get pulled under* (wave)
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 1, 2013 17:12:24 GMT
He's on TalkSport shortly for a live interview.
Should be interesting.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Apr 1, 2013 17:14:38 GMT
earn their trust and respect
Is that too much Steak and Chips ?
What you want to hear from a manager eh Tone
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Post by stokie25 on Apr 1, 2013 17:15:36 GMT
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 1, 2013 17:35:03 GMT
The quote by the Sunderland CEO is quite funny. She's getting upset because people are accusing him of having Fascist sympathies. He's admitted being a Fascist on many occasions. Are we supposed to deny this?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 1, 2013 17:36:37 GMT
The quote by the Sunderland CEO is quite funny. She's getting upset because people are accusing him of having Fascist sympathies. He's admitted being a Fascist on many occasions. Are we supposed to deny this? She's talking a load of Goebbels.
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