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Post by foxysgloves on Feb 23, 2013 23:30:30 GMT
In your opinion and to be honest mate, your opinion doesn't count for a lot after some of the rubbish you've posted tonight. He's right this time though
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2013 23:31:59 GMT
In your opinion and to be honest mate, your opinion doesn't count for a lot after some of the rubbish you've posted tonight. He's right this time though
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2013 23:44:53 GMT
There's no point getting worked up into a froth. This isn't democracy, there isn't an election and the club does not belong to the fans.it belongs to Peter Coates and is managed for him by Pulis. You could try shouting 'Coates out' instead, but last time that happened he sold thd club and it all ended in tears. In the real world, Pulis is here to stay as long as Stoke stay in the Prem. for all the criticism, that's the reality.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 23, 2013 23:46:41 GMT
In your opinion and to be honest mate, your opinion doesn't count for a lot after some of the rubbish you've posted tonight. He's right this time though I don't think he is, altough I respect his opinion ... Over the years March and I have agreed an awful lot about Pulisball and what makes it work. However since the cup final season, TP has made a bunch of absolutely terrible (sticker book) signings, ones that don't remotely fit his system and rather than hold his hands up and admit he's got it wrong, he's subjecting us to the most dreadful football seen to man, as he cuts off his nose to spite his face, in an attempt to pull the wool over everybody's eyes. March knows only too well that TP has royaly fucked up in the transfer market but he won't acknowledge the damage that the manager is doing to the club as a result of those signings. It's all about his (Pulis's) ego now and has little to do with good, effective Pulisball. It will only get worse before it (ultimately) gets better.
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Post by prudhoe on Feb 23, 2013 23:55:16 GMT
My first ever post on here was a passionate defence of Pulis against the Pulis haters. For years i have stuck by him. Defended him because of all the success he has brought to the club. I will always be grateful for what he has done at Stoke. But i have reached the point now where i am sick to death. I cant take anymore of the man and the shit excuse for football he serves up, week in, week out. Another Pulis supporter has changed sides. You are fast running out of supporters Pulis. Its time to go. Walk away now while we can still look back at you with some fondness before your legacy is nothing but hatred. I cant watch anymore of this toss. I never thought id say it but now its time. PULIS OUT!
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Post by onionman on Feb 24, 2013 0:14:02 GMT
He's right this time though I don't think he is, altough I respect his opinion ... Over the years March and I have agreed an awful lot about Pulisball and what makes it work. However since the cup final season, TP has made a bunch of absolutely terrible (sticker book) signings, ones that don't remotely fit his system and rather than hold his hands up and admit he's got it wrong, he's subjecting us to the most dreadful football seen to man, as he cuts off his nose to spite his face, in an attempt to pull the wool over everybody's eyes. March knows only too well that TP has royaly fucked up in the transfer market but he won't acknowledge the damage that the manager is doing to the club as a result of those signings. It's all about his (Pulis's) ego now and has little to do with good, effective Pulisball. It will only get worse before it (ultimately) gets better. This is how I see it. However, I'm with Foxy in that I don't think things are bad enough to take a huge gamble which could end in disaster. I realise not every possible Pulis replacement would be a disaster - but the chance of everything falling apart does increase when we remove the stability we've based a lot of our recent success on (though admittedly it's not so recent now). I'd favour him announcing this summer that he's going to step down at the end of 2013/14. That gives us plenty of time to find the right appointment, and gives Pulis one last season to give us some good times to remember him with. For one thing, I think he still just about has enough credit in the bank to deserve that last chance. For another, I think the thought of impending retirement would encourage him to release the shackles a bit - just a bit - and we really could have one last season of genuine Pulisball.
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Post by foxysgloves on Feb 24, 2013 7:36:34 GMT
I don't think he is, altough I respect his opinion ... Over the years March and I have agreed an awful lot about Pulisball and what makes it work. However since the cup final season, TP has made a bunch of absolutely terrible (sticker book) signings, ones that don't remotely fit his system and rather than hold his hands up and admit he's got it wrong, he's subjecting us to the most dreadful football seen to man, as he cuts off his nose to spite his face, in an attempt to pull the wool over everybody's eyes. March knows only too well that TP has royaly fucked up in the transfer market but he won't acknowledge the damage that the manager is doing to the club as a result of those signings. It's all about his (Pulis's) ego now and has little to do with good, effective Pulisball. It will only get worse before it (ultimately) gets better. This is how I see it. However, I'm with Foxy in that I don't think things are bad enough to take a huge gamble which could end in disaster. I realise not every possible Pulis replacement would be a disaster - but the chance of everything falling apart does increase when we remove the stability we've based a lot of our recent success on (though admittedly it's not so recent now). I'd favour him announcing this summer that he's going to step down at the end of 2013/14. That gives us plenty of time to find the right appointment, and gives Pulis one last season to give us some good times to remember him with. For one thing, I think he still just about has enough credit in the bank to deserve that last chance. For another, I think the thought of impending retirement would encourage him to release the shackles a bit - just a bit - and we really could have one last season of genuine Pulisball. I think it may well be best for all if Tone fell gracefully on his sword. Unfortunately I don't think Tone has ever done much "gracefully" and I doubt he will start now.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 24, 2013 9:42:15 GMT
He's always had more than his fair share of knockers - but it'd be a hell of a shame if he became a genuine hate figure, given the important place he has in our history
And he's well on his way.
He's got to go this summer to prevent it.
With the extra Sky cash, the £10m Begovic money and 7 biggish wages leaving the wage bill, we need these gaps to be filled by a new manager's choices, not more ill-thought-out, ill-fitting Pulis purchases that'll leave a poorer legacy than he'll already pass on
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 9:50:16 GMT
I went to sleep last night just dreaming of Geoff in the hole. ;D
What does go through his mind????????
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Post by boothenesque on Feb 24, 2013 10:04:50 GMT
66% of who? 66% of the whole supporter base or just an ungrateful few? FFS we lost 1-0 away to a wonder strike and missed a penalty. I can't understand why we play different away than at home but at the same time people have to weigh up what they have got, measured against how bad it could be and how achievable it is to get where they want to be. Life isn't perfect but at the moment it's not shit like it is for most other clubs. To those 66% of 300 odd that now believe they have a mandate and demanding the club takes big risks, what are the consequences for them if they start a chain reaction that sees us spiralling into another 30 years of oblivion? The only consequences is they get to moan all the more. Some people, I'd guess a random sample of 300 or so would throw up around 66% of people who are only happy when they're moaning and worrying about things that don't actually matter that much.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Feb 24, 2013 10:21:41 GMT
Dignified exit at the end of the season. We owe him that much. But he must go. I agree 100%. All this aggressive talk is bang out of order. Coates HAS to see that fans have turned and it would be in the best interests of the club if he left.
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Post by oxfordshirestokie on Feb 24, 2013 10:35:33 GMT
What? 10th in the PL...
We had to do what we needed to stay in the League a few years ago.But i guess we haven't revolved our game dramatically but that's what keeping us in the PL. Would be nice to see a more controlled game of footie,at times we have played some nice stuff but watching stoke does get extremely dull,away from home has been so tedious.
I'm quite unsure what the stoke fans want!
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Post by GrandStokie on Feb 24, 2013 10:36:47 GMT
What? 10th in the PL... I'm quite unsure what the stoke fans want! A bit of ball retention for starters!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 10:37:05 GMT
I went to sleep last night just dreaming of Geoff in the hole. ;D What does go through his mind???????? I think you need to talk this through with your missus. Maybe she'll give you a one night hall pass to gay up with GC
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Post by owdestokie on Feb 24, 2013 10:38:42 GMT
Boothen + 1
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 10:38:51 GMT
Would be nice to see a more controlled game of footie,at times we have played some nice stuff but watching stoke does get extremely dull,away from home has been so tedious. I'm quite unsure what the stoke fans want! You don't need to read through post after post, argument after argument to answer your question. You just need to read your own post
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 10:43:41 GMT
i dont think anyone would be happy with the way we are performing at the moment including those that matter ie peter coates and tony pulis. you can see that the manager is tinkering to try to get the best out of the situation.as a supporter i take the good times with the bad times. you cant go to wembley and sing that everything is wonderfaull about stoke city then come on here 18 months later and moaning your head off. to be calling for the managers head when were sitting in 10th is just plain stupid
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 10:46:15 GMT
Get them cards back, hg was wrong at that time but its right now and he will get the same response from me as he would have done last time i.e. stick them up your backside do the morons on here who dont even go to games think they can influence my decision when i have been going matches for 30 years dream on
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 10:49:36 GMT
Opinion polls have a varying "margin of error" , this generally can be between 3% to 5% based on 1000 to the overall population ! March seems to think ours has over 99% inaccuracy opinion polls via the internet are meaningless anyway, you could be a vale fan or a shit fan and just register on the oatcake and get your vote or most commonly those who sit by thier keyboards who never attend anyway. the only people whos point is valid is those that actually go to the matches and that seems to be the minority on here
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Post by bgpotter on Feb 24, 2013 10:53:21 GMT
Pulis must go but I cantsee it happening soon - at the end of the season would be the earliest - but he has to go then - and not upstairs - he hasnt a clue about the academy and developing players so that would be a dead loss. Its not about questioning the league position for the fans is it - we are all happy to be mid table - its the poor poor performances - so negative and boring.
The big problem is going to arise this summer - all the clubs have lots more money to spend so competition for new players/resigning players at the end of contracts will be much harder - and who is goingto want to come to play for Pulis? No-one of any quality. Who will want to stay and play hoof ball - no-one of any quality. I can see most of our first team "performers" haeding for the door. THey are all human - they cant be happy playing the Pulis way and soon they will vote with their feet (sorry!) and that when Coates may finally have enough of Pulis!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 10:55:32 GMT
Opinion polls have a varying "margin of error" , this generally can be between 3% to 5% based on 1000 to the overall population ! March seems to think ours has over 99% inaccuracy opinion polls via the internet are meaningless anyway, you could be a vale fan or a shit fan and just register on the oatcake and get your vote or most commonly those who sit by thier keyboards who never attend anyway. the only people whos point is valid is those that actually go to the matches and that seems to be the minority on here You're not still banging that pathetic drum are you? Are you really that moronic that you believe that most people who post on here don't go to watch us play? What part of the ground do you sit at for home games? I sit in the seddon and just lately all I hear is people moaning and pretty much echoing all the concerns that are being said on here. Everyone I have spoken to lately at the games is of the opinion that our football is dross and you would be very surprised at the numbers who are bored of Pulis and his slant on football,that's if you could take your head out of the sand for a bit anyway.
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Post by RAF on Feb 24, 2013 11:01:19 GMT
opinion polls via the internet are meaningless anyway, you could be a vale fan or a shit fan and just register on the oatcake and get your vote or most commonly those who sit by thier keyboards who never attend anyway. the only people whos point is valid is those that actually go to the matches and that seems to be the minority on here You're not still banging that pathetic drum are you? Are you really that moronic that you believe that most people who post on here don't go to watch us play? What part of the ground do you sit at for home games? I sit in the seddon and just lately all I hear is people moaning and pretty much echoing all the concerns that are being said on here. Everyone I have spoken to lately at the games is of the opinion that our football is dross and you would be very surprised at the numbers who are bored of Pulis and his slant on football,that's if you could take your head out of the sand for a bit anyway. Trentham is almost certainly a Vale fan on a wind up. H
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Post by oxfordshirestokie on Feb 24, 2013 11:04:01 GMT
Looking through the PL table i'm grateful to be 10th.I want the best for stoke as many of the fans do but looking from managerial boards view he's doing a sound job, Safety in the PL most important, probably overachieving at this moment but we do need to see where we finish.But two years ago we were competing in Europa League . As i read your posts i see that you guys are tired of the current performance and Tony's style of the game,fair enough as loyal supports i understand.But i can't see stoke progressing any further then 8th Honesty,i don't know! If you guys want to change philosophy,it takes time, Swansea didn't get there over night! But i do completely agree,away from home we are shite.
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Post by RAF on Feb 24, 2013 11:11:19 GMT
Looking through the PL table i'm grateful to be 10th.I want the best for stoke as many of the fans do but looking from managerial boards view he's doing a sound job, Safety in the PL most important, probably overachieving at this moment but we do need to see where we finish.But two years ago we were competing in Europa League . As i read your posts i see that you guys are tired of the current performance and Tony's style of the game,fair enough as loyal supports i understand.But i can't see stoke progressing any further then 8th Honesty,i don't know! If you guys want to change philosophy,it takes time, Swansea didn't get their over night! But i do completely agree,away from home we are shite. This is the thing though, no one actually thinks that our position is shit, it's not. No one actually thinks that we can probably do any better than 8th in all honesty. What you will hear from some absolute fuckwitts is that fans want us to play like Barcelona- not true. All a lot of fans want is for the best team to be played with the players in their right positions and have a go like we did away at Chelsea and Manure and at home to Liverpool. You see we all know we can do it apart from the man in charge who keeps twatting around . All yesterdays match did being televised was to concrete more negativity about the club in the eyes of the world. Huth and N'Zonzi really didn't do us any favours coupled with the negative turgid shite on offer. Most fans don't mind losing to a better team who play better football on the day as long as they can say their team gave it their best, which we can't say very often especially away from home. H
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Feb 24, 2013 11:32:18 GMT
Looking through the PL table i'm grateful to be 10th.I want the best for stoke as many of the fans do but looking from managerial boards view he's doing a sound job, Safety in the PL most important, probably overachieving at this moment but we do need to see where we finish.But two years ago we were competing in Europa League . As i read your posts i see that you guys are tired of the current performance and Tony's style of the game,fair enough as loyal supports i understand.But i can't see stoke progressing any further then 8th Honesty,i don't know! If you guys want to change philosophy,it takes time, Swansea didn't get their over night! But i do completely agree,away from home we are shite. This is the thing though, no one actually thinks that our position is shit, it's not. No one actually thinks that we can probably do any better than 8th in all honesty. What you will hear from some absolute fuckwitts is that fans want us to play like Barcelona- not true. All a lot of fans want is for the best team to be played with the players in their right positions and have a go like we did away at Chelsea and Manure and at home to Liverpool. You see we all know we can do it apart from the man in charge who keeps twatting around . All yesterdays match did being televised was to concrete more negativity about the club in the eyes of the world. Huth and N'Zonzi really didn't do us any favours coupled with the negative turgid shite on offer. Most fans don't mind losing to a better team who play better football on the day as long as they can say their team gave it their best, which we can't say very often especially away from home. H Spot on
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Post by bgpotter on Feb 24, 2013 11:33:58 GMT
"This is the thing though, no one actually thinks that our position is shit, it's not. No one actually thinks that we can probably do any better than 8th in all honesty. What you will hear from some absolute fuckwitts is that fans want us to play like Barcelona- not true. All a lot of fans want is for the best team to be played with the players in their right positions and have a go like we did away at Chelsea and Manure and at home to Liverpool. You see we all know we can do it apart from the man in charge who keeps twatting around . All yesterdays match did being televised was to concrete more negativity about the club in the eyes of the world. Huth and N'Zonzi really didn't do us any favours coupled with the negative turgid shite on offer. Most fans don't mind losing to a better team who play better football on the day as long as they can say their team gave it their best, which we can't say very often especially away from home".
EXACTLY THIS!
But I dont think Pulis CAN change so what alternative is there - put up with more YEARS of dross - or make a change?
We are all worried that a change could see us falling out of the league but I just cant put up with another season of dross like the majority of games we have been served up this season.
I think this is goingto be a very difficult time for us - we just have to hope the Coates family get it right!!!
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Post by swampmongrel on Feb 24, 2013 12:20:09 GMT
Dignified exit at the end of the season. We owe him that much. But he must go. I agree 100%. All this aggressive talk is bang out of order. Coates HAS to see that fans have turned and it would be in the best interests of the club if he left. Agree with this. I respect the Pulis out position (even if I'm don't really agree with it) but some of the attitudes on this board make my skin crawl.
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Post by landofhopeandglory on Feb 24, 2013 14:18:26 GMT
365 votes , say's it all
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Post by NassauDave on Feb 24, 2013 14:30:07 GMT
Time to go, end of.
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Post by henry on Feb 24, 2013 14:34:50 GMT
if you hate pulis that much vote with your fucking feet not on a message board the club dont give a flying fuck about.
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