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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 10, 2012 18:44:18 GMT
Think he soon deserves a start for us! He has certainly been very good when coming on in the last two matches! Keep it up Kenwyne lad! Right now he seems to offer more than Crouchie!;D
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Post by Trouserdog on Nov 10, 2012 18:51:50 GMT
His introduction gave us an extra dimension when he came on, just purely because he can get in behind and run at defenders.
He's got his faults, but in 4-4-1-1 he's a better option than Crouch to lead the line.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 10, 2012 18:56:55 GMT
I prefer Crouchy but the way were set up suits KJ more. As he's more mobile and holds the ball up better.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2012 18:59:08 GMT
Nature is it's way etherington and jones back to start , kightly soon on the right Walters too to be fair better in the second half today in the hole team just needs picking on merit means adam will have to go for now but palacios is living proof we dont have to pick big money buys next weeks bench should be
Palacios, Owen, crouch, Adam, upson, sorenson whitehead not bad
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2012 19:14:40 GMT
thought he looked really lively against Norwich and even more so today...deserves a start
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Post by nottinghamstokie on Nov 10, 2012 19:26:24 GMT
agreed 101%
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Post by alexk on Nov 10, 2012 19:30:03 GMT
Far better than the weak and static Crouch. Deserves a run in the side.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Nov 10, 2012 19:31:08 GMT
Far better than the weak and static Crouch. Deserves a run in the side. yup. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2012 19:33:48 GMT
Agree absolutely more power and mobility
Walters
Kightly jones ethers
worth a go
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Post by greystokie on Nov 10, 2012 19:56:59 GMT
Far better than the weak and static Crouch. Deserves a run in the side. Totally agree. We put them under far more pressure than when Crouch was up front. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2012 19:57:54 GMT
Sadly it wont make a difference. Jones was playing well and scoring and as soon as we signed Crouch he's had nothing in terms of chances.
As much as Crouch does well and is a nice guy. Would Jones really score any less in a season? I don't think so and we would have saved 10 million. No coincidence the best football we played was when he was in the side.
All we need is someone with a bit of pace to cause defenders some hassle along side him.
I'd have Jones and Jerome up, neither world beaters but both offer something we desperately lack at the moment. Oh and i'd have Kightly right wing and Ethers left.
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Post by harryburrows on Nov 10, 2012 20:01:30 GMT
I thought he looked dynamic when he came on , lots more energy than I've seen from him in a long while , but unless we play. A proper 4-4-2 I can't see him playing ahead of crouchy
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Nov 10, 2012 20:06:57 GMT
Sadly it wont make a difference. Jones was playing well and scoring and as soon as we signed Crouch he's had nothing in terms of chances. As much as Crouch does well and is a nice guy. Would Jones really score any less in a season? I don't think so and we would have saved 10 million. No coincidence the best football we played was when he was in the side. All we need is someone with a bit of pace to cause defenders some hassle along side him. I'd have Jones and Jerome up, neither world beaters but both offer something we desperately lack at the moment. Oh and i'd have Kightly right wing and Ethers left. but playing two upfront completely defeats the object of playing kenwyne. the whole point of doing so was because of the one up front system we are playing. couch needs support as his game revolves around flicking on play to the wings and his fellow striker. to play upfront on his own he either needs massive strength or lightening speed, of which he has neither. jones does have more strength and speed, however in my opinion doesnt possess the threat that crouch does, so if we are going to play two up front i would play jerome/owen and crouch. |
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Post by alster on Nov 10, 2012 20:12:18 GMT
Sadly it wont make a difference. Jones was playing well and scoring and as soon as we signed Crouch he's had nothing in terms of chances. As much as Crouch does well and is a nice guy. Would Jones really score any less in a season? I don't think so and we would have saved 10 million. No coincidence the best football we played was when he was in the side. All we need is someone with a bit of pace to cause defenders some hassle along side him. I'd have Jones and Jerome up, neither world beaters but both offer something we desperately lack at the moment. Oh and i'd have Kightly right wing and Ethers left. Well if we're going to just select our best attacking players despite the fact that they've pissed Pulis off why not just get JP back from Wolves whist we're at it. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 10, 2012 20:40:59 GMT
The tackle he made early on after he came on said a lot of his commitment too! KJ, it's your time to shine! ;D
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Nov 10, 2012 21:01:33 GMT
Agree, Kenwyne upfront on his own is better than Crouch upfront on his own.
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 10, 2012 21:09:24 GMT
For me the player in the best form should always play, and at the moment KJ looks sharper than Crouch. This doesn't mean he should be selected every game from now on!
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 10, 2012 21:10:39 GMT
Crouch had a good game individually, but because of the type of player he is, the team just didn't function. We were a lot, lot better when Jones came on the pitch.
It's a myth that Jones somehow didn't earn his place last year, as well. As soon as Crouch was signed that was it, there was only one space and it was always going to go to Crouch, regardless of form. Expect the same to happen here.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Nov 10, 2012 21:18:32 GMT
sorry MD, Crouch was really poor and lightweight today. KJ did more in his 15 mins than PC in his 75.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2012 21:21:03 GMT
sorry MD, Crouch was really poor and lightweight today. KJ did more in his 15 mins than PC in his 75. Agree bunny and for me Crouch has been poor for a few weeks now but it can't help him being isolated up front like he is. |
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Post by stokie1997 on Nov 10, 2012 21:24:09 GMT
Kenwyne has to start up front if we are playing 4-5-1 Crouch is not mobile enough to play in that role on his own in my opinion
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Post by rawli on Nov 10, 2012 21:34:53 GMT
Don't think Tony would have the balls to drop Crouch having chased him for so long
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 10, 2012 21:35:20 GMT
He impressed me today, if he can show that effort more often then he is a real option. I don't think Crouch was that bad either too, he won everything in the air and when he got it (and someone was within 20ft of him) he linked play nicely. Not great, not bad by any stretch of the imagine though.
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Post by fortressbritannia on Nov 10, 2012 21:39:46 GMT
Walters and Jones still remains our best Premier League strike force, they're just on the same wavelength, and Walters in the Walters role alongside Jones can be truly devastating for defenders. Unlike Crouch KJ.center turn players and his game doesn't rely on having other players 5 foot away from him which makes it easier to stretch teams.
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 10, 2012 21:43:15 GMT
sorry MD, Crouch was really poor and lightweight today. KJ did more in his 15 mins than PC in his 75. Crouch had the beating of his man in the air every single time today, but nobody got anywhere near him. He's just not the right player for that role, whereas Kenwyne is. |
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Post by Championship Potter on Nov 10, 2012 21:48:00 GMT
Crouch is possibly the slowest player in the league. He's good technically but his lack of pace makes us very predictable when we attack, especially because none of the players around him have any pace either. Jones has to be the way forward if we are going to persist with 4-4-1-1.
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Post by hollywood on Nov 10, 2012 22:29:17 GMT
Think he soon deserves a start for us! He has certainly been very good when coming on in the last two matches! Keep it up Kenwyne lad! Right now he seems to offer more than Crouchie!;D I think that you either play pace alongside Crouch, or consider Jones. We desperately need to have the threat of someone running in behind. Otherwise it's ALL infront of the opposition, very predictable, and get easy to defend. Blindingly obvious. |
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Post by roylandstoke on Nov 10, 2012 23:32:41 GMT
Far better than the weak and static Crouch. Deserves a run in the side. Spot on. I honestly think I am quicker over the ground than Peter Crouch. He made Anton Ferdinand look like a decent footballer today, and that's something I thought even Derren Brown wouldn't be able to get me to say. |
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Post by roylandstoke on Nov 10, 2012 23:36:18 GMT
Walters and Jones still remains our best Premier League strike force, they're just on the same wavelength, and Walters in the Walters role alongside Jones can be truly devastating for defenders. Unlike Crouch KJ.center turn players and his game doesn't rely on having other players 5 foot away from him which makes it easier to stretch teams. I think they'd do particularly well with 2 out and out wingers. Maybe a bit like Matty Etherington and Jermaine Pennant. Perhaps TP will try that front line one day. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2012 23:36:24 GMT
So do we or should we drop crouchy for the good of the team?.....
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