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Post by manofdunland on Jan 2, 2011 2:40:20 GMT
I thought the rule was that it was only an own goal if the ball was not on target and it hit another player. Jones headed it, and it hit Jagielka (spelling?)
So why does the goal not belong to Jones?
It may have bounced over, but the issue hasnt even been debated.
Thanks
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Post by Inverness Stokie on Jan 2, 2011 2:41:36 GMT
Jagielka twatted it in to his own net. In my book that consists of an own goal being scored.  |
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Post by Winge on Jan 2, 2011 2:42:04 GMT
I thought the rule was that it was only an own goal if the ball was not on target and it hit another player. Jones headed it, and it hit Jagielka (spelling?) So why does the goal not belong to Jones? It may have bounced over, but the issue hasnt even been debated. Thanks Jones?? Don't you mean fuller for the second goal fella? |
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Post by manofdunland on Jan 2, 2011 2:44:40 GMT
I thought the rule was that it was only an own goal if the ball was not on target and it hit another player. Jones headed it, and it hit Jagielka (spelling?) So why does the goal not belong to Jones? It may have bounced over, but the issue hasnt even been debated. Thanks Jones?? Don't you mean fuller for the second goal fella? No I mean Jones, the ball was flicked on by Jones, and the Everton defender under pressure got the last touch. I dont think Fuller even touched it. |
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Post by manofdunland on Jan 2, 2011 2:45:36 GMT
Jagielka twatted it in to his own net. In my book that consists of an own goal being scored. He did yes bud, but what im saying is that does it not technically count as a "deflection" and can he not claim the goal Lampard style? |
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Post by Winge on Jan 2, 2011 2:46:59 GMT
Jones?? Don't you mean fuller for the second goal fella? No I mean Jones, the ball was flicked on by Jones, and the Everton defender under pressure got the last touch. I dont think Fuller even touched it. Fuck me mate....clutching a straws there pal....and if it was not for fuller then I dare say he would'nt have kicked it into the goal under pressure!! |
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Post by Inverness Stokie on Jan 2, 2011 2:47:40 GMT
Jagielka twatted it in to his own net. In my book that consists of an own goal being scored. He did yes bud, but what im saying is that does it not technically count as a "deflection" and can he not claim the goal Lampard style? I have no idea, I think it was an own goal because of the fact that Jones didn't put it anywhere near the goal and it was a good 6 yards from it as a result. |
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Post by lawman57 on Jan 2, 2011 2:48:35 GMT
He kicked the ball as it was comin down,good poachers goal
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Post by bradscfc on Jan 2, 2011 2:49:30 GMT
I don't think it counts as a deflection if you swing your foot at it in the direction of the goal
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Post by manofdunland on Jan 2, 2011 2:50:10 GMT
Do you guys agree that the Jones header was at least on target? It wouldnt have gone it, but that is besides the point.
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Post by Irish Stokie on Jan 2, 2011 2:50:33 GMT
It was an own goal as the ball wouldn't have gone it but for Jagielka's involvement. If a shot is on target and takes a deflection there is the possibility the original shot could have gone in, in this case the ball wouldn't have gone in without Jagielka hitting it
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Post by manofdunland on Jan 2, 2011 2:54:34 GMT
It was an own goal as the ball wouldn't have gone it but for Jagielka's involvement. If a shot is on target and takes a deflection there is the possibility the original shot could have gone in, in this case the ball wouldn't have gone in without Jagielka hitting it Why wouldnt it have gone in? Imagine fuller and Jagielka (and therefor the touch from Jagielka) weren't there, just Howard. |
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Jan 2, 2011 3:04:13 GMT
He smashed the ball into his keepers net = own goal ;D
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Post by manofdunland on Jan 2, 2011 3:08:39 GMT
Dit it not hit his shoulder?
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jan 2, 2011 4:33:51 GMT
Dit it not hit his shoulder? Dit? And hit who's shoulder? Jones's shoulder or Jagielka's? Jones flicked it on and Jagielka full on twatted it into his own net I actually can't believe this is being questioned, it's unreal. I imagine you've questioned if Jones should be awarded his headed goal in the first half if you've been so dim as to question if the 2nd goal was an owl goal or not Jesus.Fucking.Wept.. |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jan 2, 2011 4:44:43 GMT
Jagielka basically shot the ball into his own net, how the fuck is that NOT an own goal?
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jan 2, 2011 4:45:39 GMT
In fact, of all the own goals I've ever seen, that one was probably up there with "the most blatant own goals ever".
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jan 2, 2011 4:46:20 GMT
Jagielka basically shot the ball into his own net, how the fuck is that NOT an own goal? Because it magically bounced off his shoulder?  [insert arse and elbow type joke here] |
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Post by bradscfc on Jan 2, 2011 5:14:04 GMT
That first goal from Etherington was a beauty though ;D
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Jan 2, 2011 7:47:12 GMT
It was so an own goal that it'll probably end up on one of those Nick Hancock Xmas bloomer videos! Sign him up Tone . . . !  |
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Post by jen on Jan 2, 2011 9:26:29 GMT
That first goal from Etherington was a beauty though ;D[/quote ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Hiram on Jan 2, 2011 9:38:57 GMT
It was an own goal as the ball wouldn't have gone it but for Jagielka's involvement. If a shot is on target and takes a deflection there is the possibility the original shot could have gone in, in this case the ball wouldn't have gone in without Jagielka hitting it Why wouldnt it have gone in? Imagine fuller and Jagielka (and therefor the touch from Jagielka) weren't there, just Howard. because Howard would have save it? |
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Post by ianbuckley on Jan 2, 2011 11:06:38 GMT
Dit it not hit his shoulder? Dit? And hit who's shoulder? Jones's shoulder or Jagielka's? Jones flicked it on and Jagielka full on twatted it into his own net I actually can't believe this is being questioned, it's unreal. I imagine you've questioned if Jones should be awarded his headed goal in the first half if you've been so dim as to question if the 2nd goal was an owl goal or not Jesus.Fucking.Wept.. Yes, I saw Harry Potters' bird fly down and deflect it into the net. Definitely an owl goal. ;D |
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Post by Winge on Jan 2, 2011 11:10:07 GMT
Dit? And hit who's shoulder? Jones's shoulder or Jagielka's? Jones flicked it on and Jagielka full on twatted it into his own net I actually can't believe this is being questioned, it's unreal. I imagine you've questioned if Jones should be awarded his headed goal in the first half if you've been so dim as to question if the 2nd goal was an owl goal or not Jesus.Fucking.Wept.. Yes, I saw Harry Potters' bird fly down and deflect it into the net. Definitely an owl goal. ;D Get ye coat pal ;D |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 2, 2011 11:10:35 GMT
It was a great finish by Jagielka, just where the keepers don't like 'em.
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Post by aldershotstoke on Jan 2, 2011 11:10:44 GMT
I see your point...but this was a blatant own goal and not a deflection.
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Post by stokelad84 on Jan 2, 2011 11:18:07 GMT
Jones' flick on was NOT going in. So how can Jones claim it?
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Post by Stoke-on-Toronto on Jan 2, 2011 11:24:27 GMT
It was an own goal because he hit it into his own net...... it was never going in until he botched it.....
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Post by labyrinth on Jan 2, 2011 11:29:15 GMT
What is the point of this thread? Anyone who has seen the goal knows it was a clear own goal. Jones just looped his header into the box before it was smashed in style into the back of the net. Fuller never got a touch. Can someone tell me if manofdunland is really a premiership referee judging by his poor vision and views of the rules. |
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Post by manofdunland on Jan 2, 2011 12:24:42 GMT
Why wouldnt it have gone in? Imagine fuller and Jagielka (and therefor the touch from Jagielka) weren't there, just Howard. because Howard would have save it? That is irelevant tho, if it would have been saved or not, it was on target. |
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