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Post by TheWiseMaster on Sept 4, 2010 11:01:43 GMT
Walters is nailed on to start after his MOTM first few games. Apart from owt else he has the work rate that TP craves
Up front it will be KJ and ano......
Pennant unlikely to be more than an impact sub to start and Eidur will need to prove his fitness from the bench
Hope that Wilson starts with Whitehead at right back.....
And most of alll - no Delap!!
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Post by gibby1409 on Sept 4, 2010 13:05:30 GMT
I think that Wilson for Whelan, with Walters on the Right in place of Delap, and Ric & Kenwyne up front, Pennant & Eider on Bench
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Post by Square-Pegs on Sept 4, 2010 13:19:21 GMT
I would personally go with KJ and Fuller because I believe they could form a formidable partnership together up front. I think Pulis however may opt to drop Fuller and go with KJ and Eidur due to Eidur's experience. The one formality for me though has to be Kenwyne up front because he looked excellent in his small spell at Wolves and he was good whilst injury ravaged against Chelsea.
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Post by bostonstokie on Sept 4, 2010 13:28:14 GMT
It should be the Caribbean dream team duo, with Eidur playing the more attacking central midfield role with Wilson holding, but Tone's inherent caution will see Ricardo dropped to make way for Eidur as the deep lying front player within a game or two, with Deano partnering Wilson. I'd play: Begovic (make him no.1 now) Whitehead Huth Shawcross Higginbotham Pennant Wilson Gudjohnsen Etherington Jones Fuller That's a great attacking side but my fear is that it might get overrun in midfield particularly against the better sides. Just look at the job Michael Essien does for Chelsea. Sure he can play a bit but he is as strong as an ox, could run through a brick wall, he's an unbelievable ball winner and he can do it all for the 96 minutes it takes these days. That midfield certainly has flair but it has very little steel. I think Wilson has more steel than people are expecting. Don't forget he played in the back at Pompey; he can pass, but he is a defensive midfielder.
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Post by leftsideboothen on Sept 4, 2010 13:39:42 GMT
Anyone who thinks that Deano will not start the majority of Premier League matches down't know TP very well. I can't see EG starting a game until Xmas, (barring injuries). Once everyone is fit:
Sorro Huth Shawx Abde Higgi Pennent Deano Wilson Ethers KJ Fuller
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Post by onewaynebiggins on Sept 4, 2010 14:14:33 GMT
Anyone who thinks that Deano will not start the majority of Premier League matches down't know TP very well. I can't see EG starting a game until Xmas, (barring injuries). Once everyone is fit: Sorro Huth Shawcross Abde Higgi Pennent Deano Wilson Ethers KJ Fuller I think this will be the starting 11 for the Villa game too...Eidur looked miles of being match fit at training yesterday, however Pennent looked surprising sharp. onewaynebiggins
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Post by stokemark on Sept 4, 2010 23:03:04 GMT
Walters will be accomadated
I think he will NOT start with Eidur or Pennant and he will play Walters up front with KJ and Delap on the right with Wilson / Whitehead centre mid (Ethers left)
Why ? Coz its the sort of thing he does !! - I dont see Walters as a striker and he should start either wide right or on the bench but Tone will have, as stated above, loved seeing him 'weerrrrkkk aaaaaardddd' !
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Post by alexk on Sept 4, 2010 23:10:40 GMT
It ought to be Fuller + either Jones or Gudjohnsen.Nobody else in the squad is good enough to play. Includining Walters. If Pulis starts picking Walters to start up front in preference to any of the other three then it's time to look forward to the Championship.
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Post by nickscfc on Sept 4, 2010 23:21:26 GMT
One thing is for sure. Kenwyne Jones WILL start. And rightly so. Its just a case of who will partner him. If eidur is fit surely it will be him...Jones and Walters up top for me isnt the best combination...2 target men style players. Seems we'd be wasting a spot in the team with Walters up front...stick Walters on the right wing. Id love to see Jones and Tuncay with Eidur in midfield as he has done for Barcelona (though obviously i dont think we will see this).
We shall see soon enough...really cant wait. Very excited to see Jones actually.
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Post by albanianstokie on Sept 5, 2010 7:32:36 GMT
kenwynne and fuller
I can see him playing EG centre midfield.
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Post by keithy george on Sept 5, 2010 7:37:32 GMT
Wait until Christmas WHY ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE HIM STUFFED & MOUNTED...? I thought we have heard the last of that name expect in the middle of the night ;D
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 5, 2010 8:00:49 GMT
It should be the Caribbean dream team duo, with Eidur playing the more attacking central midfield role with Wilson holding, but Tone's inherent caution will see Ricardo dropped to make way for Eidur as the deep lying front player within a game or two, with Deano partnering Wilson. I'd play: Begovic (make him no.1 now) Whitehead Huth Shawcross Higginbotham Pennant Wilson Gudjohnsen Etherington Jones Fuller My team as well Jezza. And with players like Walters, Tuncay (at least until January) and Delap on the bench as impact subs, it looks easily good enough for a top half finish. However, as you say TP is likely to play Eidur as the second striker once he is fit. Hopefully he will eventually get round to playing your side sometimes and keeping the more conservative side for perhaps the more difficult away games.
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Post by Do eet for Eetinneriseet on Sept 5, 2010 10:05:36 GMT
Ric + 1
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Post by ColonelMustard on Sept 5, 2010 10:35:58 GMT
It ought to be Fuller + either Jones or Gudjohnsen.Nobody else in the squad is good enough to play. Includining Walters. If Pulis starts picking Walters to start up front in preference to any of the other three then it's time to look forward to the Championship. It's been quite predictable that Walters would become the new stick with which to beat Pulis. Well if he's the best you can do, especially after his first two performances, we are looking at anywhere but the championship. Edit - 3 performances
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Post by bostonstokie on Sept 5, 2010 10:48:33 GMT
It ought to be Fuller + either Jones or Gudjohnsen.Nobody else in the squad is good enough to play. Includining Walters. If Pulis starts picking Walters to start up front in preference to any of the other three then it's time to look forward to the Championship. I don't think Walters would put us there because of his play, but it would be Tunny x10 as far as EG and Pennant go if he starts in front of them, and the would be the last two quality players we would ever recruit.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2010 11:09:31 GMT
the front pairing is the topic that my mind keeps moving toward
perm two from four i.e. Ric - KJ - Eidur - and Tuncay
We now have an embarrassment of riches - all are very good on their day - but to my mind, you cant just push Ric or, for that matter, Tuncay to one side to accommodate the new players - (the new lads) they've got to prove their fitness and play their way in, like others have had to do.
Ric to me is still our number one striker still but, he must surely know he's got to get more goals now -unlike last season - or even he could be dropped.
As for Tuncay, it'll be interesting to see how he reacts i.e. whether he sees the club getting stronger and sees that as a good thing or, he 'sees his arse' so to speak if, he gets even fewer opportunities. For Me he's simply far too good a footballer to leave on the bench anyways, maybe we fit him in behind the front two.
Three of the midfield spots are now also pretty much nailed down now with Ethers, Walters and Pennant (if he gets fit - and on the basis we really must have a right hand side of midfield too and NOT Delap out there!) question is -who will get the fourth ? (to my mind, now between Whitehead Whelan and Wilson)
Sadly you'll see no mention of Sidibe or Delap in there as actually getting a first choice anymore -to my mind
And, the back four now picks itself around a Huth / Shawcross central defensive pairing -with Wilkinson and Higginbotham, as my two preferred fullbacks
again -right now the injury prone Ab Faye provides able backup
Be interesting to see how this pans out in practice and how Tony Pulis -manages to keep all these good players happy - my only real worry presently.
MAYBE, just maybe -the cup competitions aren't a waste of time this season ? (never thought Id say THAT )
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2010 11:14:30 GMT
It's an interesting question certainly - I agree that Fuller can't just be discarded, and Eidur is a fascinating signing - he doesn't fit easily into either of TP's strike roles, so either we're going to have to tweak things a bit or he's going to go the way of Tuncay - although his Redknapp seal of approval and bigger frame suggest he'll be given more of a chance.
Walters is another interesting one Tone - do you see TP playing him in midfield, given how we play?
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Post by wilfherman on Sept 5, 2010 11:15:50 GMT
I think TP suprised us all in the transfer window with the style of players bought. He always speaks of bringing in quality, but I don't think Pennant is an obvious improvement on our current style, the same can said for EG too. Great signings, but it means we will have to change the whole way we play to accommodate. The answer might be to evolve gradually and leave Pennant out for Walters at first and leave Fuller and KJ up front.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2010 11:16:10 GMT
Yep, Walters is now centre mid for me now - or jousting with Pennant for RH sides spot
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2010 11:24:59 GMT
Yep, Walters is now centre mid for me now - or jousting with Pennant for RH sides spot But do you realistically see TP playing him in the centre Tone? I think he'll rival JP for the right hand berth and provide cover up top. Seeing either him or EG in centre mid would be an experiment worth a try, but given TP's preference for two sitting in the middle I doubt we'll see that happen.
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Post by griffoisalegend on Sept 5, 2010 11:33:14 GMT
I'm hoping Eidur is playing centre mid. Tommy/Bego Whitehead/Wilko Shawcross Faye/Huth Collins Pennant Wilson Eidur Ringtone Ric KJ Would love to see that line up. so you buy a world class striker and play him in midfield????? mind you i can see where your coming from playing two goalkeepers is surely an inspired move ;D ;D He's actually more of a midfielder now, Gudjohnsen. Find it hard to believe that no one actually realises this, would love to see him there rather than up front, personally. I think Fuller has more to offer up front than Eidur. He was a previous top class striker, and he probably could still net a lot of goals, but it's his link up play and quality on the ball which we should be looking to use. Walters will always be a good back up player, not much else, he isn't in the class of Fuller or Jones, but i'd say he'll start against Villa on the right.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2010 11:37:55 GMT
rob vd I think its now inevitable with the signings hes' made - hes got to make the team more 'progressive' & if he stickes with some of his dogmas with this new bunch
team unrest will come to visit him pretty quickly - an unfortunate reality borne of modern players egos Im afraid
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Post by fromafar07 on Sept 5, 2010 12:34:20 GMT
my team would be Sorenson Wilkinson Huth Shawcross Higginbotham Pennant Tuncay Delap Etherington Fuller Jones
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2010 14:22:16 GMT
rob vd I think its now inevitable with the signings hes' made - hes got to make the team more 'progressive' & if he stickes with some of his dogmas with this new bunch team unrest will come to visit him pretty quickly - an unfortunate reality borne of modern players egos Im afraid I don't think it's inevitable Tone - the Tuncay signing shows that. I hope you're right though.
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Post by bostonstokie on Sept 5, 2010 14:48:05 GMT
my team would be Sorenson Wilkinson Huth Shawcross Higginbotham Pennant Tuncay Delap Etherington Fuller Jones You'd start Delap in front of Gudjohnsen?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2010 14:49:52 GMT
my team would be Sorenson Wilkinson Huth Shawcross Higginbotham Pennant Tuncay Delap Etherington Fuller Jones You'd start Delap in front of Gudjohnsen? A centre mid of Tuncay and EG would get absolutely molested in a Pulis system, and it's clearly never going to happen.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 5, 2010 15:04:43 GMT
I think we're dreaming if we think Gudj, Walters, or Tunch are going to slot into the cage.
I still haven't really got a clue here Gudjohnsen is going to slot into the team though - and the knock-on effect that's going to have on Fuller's game time, and where Jones plays most of the time
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2010 15:17:38 GMT
This will be TP's starting XI for Villa: - KJ Walters Ethers Wilson Whitehead Pennant Collins Shawcross Faye Huth Sorensen
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Post by hollywood on Sept 5, 2010 15:17:46 GMT
A nice headache to have for TP + a good subs bench no matter who plays from the start. IMO - Jones + ANother agreed. it's Jones + 1. TP has spent big on him, and he's the target man who can score (or mama upgrade if you will) that TP has always longed for. And i think it's the right policy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2010 15:22:58 GMT
This will be TP's starting XI for Villa: - KJ Walters Ethers Wilson Whitehead Pennant Collins Shawcross Faye Huth Sorensen
Two keepers and Sorro on his own up front. Maverick.
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