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Post by MetalPotter on Sept 3, 2010 9:25:49 GMT
.And the people who live their lives dedicated to someone who featured in a book written by tens of different people thousands of years ago. I wonder if in a couple of thousand years people will go round wearing golden rings round their necks and praying to a small hobbit . ;D |
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Post by Moosehead on Sept 3, 2010 9:57:07 GMT
Don't forget that Jedi is an ever growing religion!
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Post by boothy on Sept 3, 2010 10:55:53 GMT
Human beings make me laugh. We are not better nor worse than ants. We are here for now, just like the dinosaurs were. What makes us any better ? Nowt. When that BIG METEOR hits Earth, then it's Goodnight. No more religion nor politics, because that is just a human thing. Whatever survives will take over the planet. Rats ? Flies ? Doesn't matter. Eventually, the Sun will Supa-Nova & take the entire Solar Sysytem with it. FACT!!!!!! Now, what were you saying about God ?................................... Pretty much all of that is wrong.  a) We're a lot cleverer than the dinosaurs. b) We are here for now, but we at least have a plan to stay here for as long as possible and improve as a civilization. c) Asteroids and Meteors aren't that much of a problem anymore, we could easily stop an Asteroid nowadays. (and not just with the stupid "send nuke hit rock please Dave" kinda thing). As long as we don't find an Asteroid heading towards Earth within the next five years (highly unlikely) we won't have a problem. And even then we could just build something quickly and will more than likely change it's orbit. d) The sun is too small for a Supernova, although around 1 billion years from now there won't be any oceans so we better hope of finding an Earth like planet and how to travel long distances in a short time, quickly. Oh and God isn't real. |
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Post by Moosehead on Sept 3, 2010 11:04:09 GMT
"b) We are here for now, but we at least have a plan to stay here for as long as possible and improve as a civilization."
Does that plan include polluting the planet to death? And unsustainably expoiting all of it's resources?
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Post by boothy on Sept 3, 2010 11:05:47 GMT
"b) We are here for now, but we at least have a plan to stay here for as long as possible and improve as a civilization." Does that plan include polluting the planet to death? And unsustainably expoiting all of it's resources? Yes well, that is a problem. |
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Post by isaaccox on Sept 3, 2010 11:10:08 GMT
The sun will turn into a red giant and will most likely engulf earth, that will be 5 billion years though and we will not be here then anyway.
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Post by boothy on Sept 3, 2010 11:11:57 GMT
The sun will turn into a red giant and will most likely engulf earth, that will be 5 billion years though and we will not be here then anyway. Yeah, I would have mentioned that. But we'd have to be long gone by then. Would be good to be alive if we had moved to another planet and watched our Solar System die. Would be great to watch. |
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Post by ravenonthewing on Sept 3, 2010 11:26:41 GMT
Just reading through these posts....Oh the arrogance of man. ;D
Ill read no more, it's too embarracing to see how highly you think of yourselves
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Post by isaaccox on Sept 3, 2010 11:50:16 GMT
Just reading through these posts....Oh the arrogance of man. ;D Ill read no more, it's too embarracing to see how highly you think of yourselves Ohhh raven. |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Sept 3, 2010 13:36:00 GMT
Oh look, once again the atheist brigade come out evangelising and ramming their beliefs down everybody's throat. Keep your beliefs to yourself, nobody is interested. With all due respect, I am an 'Atheist', not a 'theist', therefore I have NO religious beliefs whatsoever. That's exactly what I meant.  |
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Post by ravenonthewing on Sept 3, 2010 14:59:31 GMT
Does anyone else ever wonder why live things in general; ants, bacteria, donkeys, birds, snakes, BIG HAIRY SPIDERS, dogs, budgies, crabs, sharks, camels, cats, merecats, pink panthers, those wriggly things with ten million legs, worms, lions, goats, crocodiles, kiwis, goldfish, fukin cute dolphins, parrotts, flies, rats, vegetables (they are a life form), trees, carp, pike, & about twelvety billion other life forms don't pray to one of the many 'Gods' there are to choose from ? Well, I don't wonder why. I know for FACT that religion is a man-made thing. That's why only humans are subservient to such bullshit. The title says " there is no God" Not do you believe in religion |
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Post by neoisd1 on Sept 3, 2010 15:03:22 GMT
I have no qualms with the ideas of evolution, survival of the fittest and adaption being a fact of life; what I do have a problem with is people using it as an explanation for the existence of life as a whole. If you trace it back far enough, there must be a stage you can pinpoint at which life first sparked into existence. Since the theory of evolution doesn't apply to inorganic matter, how can you claim that either a) the first organic cell evolved from a mineral molecule, or b) life just "happened", with no explanation for it? These are questions to which answers never seem to even be attempted. I'm not saying that a bearded man sitting on a cloud snapped his fingers, but there are other alternatives; such as a higher life form as a creator, which could still be called a "god", or life existing elsewhere in the universe, which could also be called "god". You could always assume, also, that any "god" is not benevolent or all-powerful, just created the universe for a laugh, and is tinkering about with it, doing whatever he likes just for the craic, like a kid sitting and playing on the Sims. Not a conventional viewing of "god", but as equally plausible as the ridiculous, hardcore creationist element of full theism, and the ridiculous, hardcore sneering of reasonless atheism. Most sensible people will be in the middle, erring on one side of the other of agnosticism, and it's genuinely annoying when people claim that the "scientific" and "reasonable" way to look at things is complete atheism. If some bible-bashing Deep-South dickhead came on here arguing the other side with as much naive and unreasonable conviction as some on here use for their atheist argument, he'd get shouted down and hounded out of the whole forum. It smacks of double standards, and I'd be arguing against him as well before anyone thinks otherwise. ;D People don't use Evolution as an "explanation for the existence of life as a whole", or at least they shouldn't. Biological evolution, simply put, is descent with modification. It seems to me that you're confusing Evolution with Abiogenesis. |
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Post by danceswithclams on Sept 3, 2010 15:41:45 GMT
I wonder if in a couple of thousand years people will go round wearing golden rings round their necks and praying to a small hobbit . ;D by Will Self kind of explores this notion MP. I highly recommend it. |
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Post by Rocket88 on Sept 3, 2010 16:58:42 GMT
Ignore my posts from last night. I was drinking Frosty Jack.  |
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Post by neoisd1 on Sept 3, 2010 17:02:08 GMT
Ignore my posts from last night. I was drinking Frosty Jack. I was reading them thinking, eh up, someones been on the beer ;D ;D |
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Post by bradscfc on Sept 3, 2010 21:36:49 GMT
Where would civilisation be now if religious zealots hadn't put Gallileo under house arrest for years ? Where would civilisation be now if the book burnings & witch hunts of the 'Dark Ages' hadn't occured ? I reckon that civilisation would be more 'civil'. I don't need religion to make me show empathy & compassion to a fellow human being or to try to force me into being a 'nice' person. I'm like that anyway, as a decent human being. Nowt personal mate, I just picked your quote out of many. I'm an atheist to. God Be With You.  Who knows where it would be, I just hate general statements like 'The world would be a better place if religion never existed' or similar, regardless of if you believe in God or not there's no denying religion has done many good things for the world, as well as many bad things. I think as a race humans are on the verge of entering a new age, something a million times greater than the industrial revolution, it's completely possible that in 20 years time we'll be able to grow fake limbs and organs synthetically and have machines taking care of all the stuff nobody wants to do. Religion as an organisation was a completely necassary evil in the past, but it's outlived it's use and relevance to the next generation. Religion is simply a way of enabling few to control many and was created by man for that purpose. It's not that I'm not spiritual or anything like that, but I honestly don't believe that there's anything after this life, it would be amazing if when you die you are taken to a place with everyone you love and it's a comforting thought, but I just don't buy into it. As someone else has said, when you die your cadaver feeds the earth it came from. But fuck it , who knows really. That's my opinion (and I'm abit pissed so forgive me if it's badly worded or spelt) but at the end of the day I'm 21 years old, how much can I possibly know about something so complex. |
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Post by ravenonthewing on Sept 3, 2010 21:42:40 GMT
I want your babies Brad
+1&raise you 2 more
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Post by bradscfc on Sept 3, 2010 21:47:23 GMT
You are welcome to them Raven my good friend, on a side note been at Ribbey Hall all day for my step-sisters wedding, that place is far too nice to be anywhere near Blackpool ;D
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Post by ravenonthewing on Sept 3, 2010 21:53:54 GMT
I've heard good things about it mate. Only seen photos but, never been. Great weather for it too  |
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Post by Ariel Manto on Sept 4, 2010 12:51:14 GMT
It's Hawking Daft fuckers make me piss when they pray to 'God' hoping for some help after some sort of disaster. Presumably this is a different 'God' to the one who allowed the disaster to happen in the first place? Cunts. Do people pray and turn to religion to actually change events, or do they pray because it makes them feel better and because it provides an internal focus for their grief or pain? Either way, people can believe what they want to believe. The sooner everyone moves on from their anti-religious prejudice the better. Live and let live. |
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Post by Nick1984 on Sept 4, 2010 13:31:02 GMT
Most people these days pray to change things, like a family member who has an incurable disease.
Not sure about Muslims, seems more like it's a strict command for them.
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Post by ravenonthewing on Sept 4, 2010 15:50:14 GMT
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Post by Beardy200 on Sept 4, 2010 17:11:16 GMT
It's Hawking Daft fuckers make me piss when they pray to 'God' hoping for some help after some sort of disaster. Presumably this is a different 'God' to the one who allowed the disaster to happen in the first place? Cunts. Do people pray and turn to religion to actually change events, or do they pray because it makes them feel better and because it provides an internal focus for their grief or pain? Either way, people can believe what they want to believe. The sooner everyone moves on from their anti-religious prejudice the better. Live and let live. I do live and let live. If people want to believe in all of it that's their prerogative. Thing is, a bit like trainspotters it's also my prerogative to think "dozy fuckers". |
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Post by ravenonthewing on Sept 4, 2010 17:25:06 GMT
Do people pray and turn to religion to actually change events, or do they pray because it makes them feel better and because it provides an internal focus for their grief or pain? Either way, people can believe what they want to believe. The sooner everyone moves on from their anti-religious prejudice the better. Live and let live. I do live and let live. If people want to believe in all of it that's their prerogative. Thing is, a bit like trainspotters it's also my prerogative to think "dozy fuckers". My sentiments exactly.... with none believers Beardy |
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Post by starkiller on Sept 4, 2010 20:16:47 GMT
Why not multiple gods as humans have believed for much longer than belief in one?
Unfortunately, you can't exert control over people if you just let them believe in their own god.
Hence, exactly the reason for Christianity in the first place.
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