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Post by Billy the kid on Sept 1, 2010 23:16:59 GMT
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Post by spiderpuss on Sept 1, 2010 23:21:55 GMT
Some interesting points but no cause for concern. At the end of the day they are better than Beattie and Kitson - as both those players weren't even on the bench.
I'm sure a mercenary still can perform when they want to...
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Post by frostywalrus on Sept 1, 2010 23:22:36 GMT
Doubt they are bitter, They have had quite a good window to be honest as well.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2010 23:25:27 GMT
I would hazard a guess that Steve Bruce will be the first managerial casualty in the Prem..!
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Post by coggy on Sept 1, 2010 23:26:40 GMT
They are extremely arrogant and to be honest i have watched all the interviews and thought the opposite. He has already said he had a lot of offers from all over and was honest in saying it took a bit of time to make up his mind.
He seems focused and i would not worry one bit about what they think !
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Post by skip on Sept 1, 2010 23:28:51 GMT
If a mercenary is true to their word they'll work wonders if the money is right. If all of our new signings dance to that tune then it's fine by me.
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Post by prettyricky on Sept 1, 2010 23:29:14 GMT
Fuck him the prick I never minded Sunderland and I thought they'd do well but that was below the belt the prick I hope Gyan and Bent get offers from decent clubs like Stoke and move on in January that'll show the fucker ;D
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Post by frostywalrus on Sept 1, 2010 23:29:20 GMT
Every other club's fans are going to think like that to be honest ant we are going to think the exact opposite, That's football.
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Post by captainfishpaste on Sept 1, 2010 23:33:26 GMT
Who cares what people are saying about Stoke as long as people are actually talking about you? I am not really sure what you think we have to be bitter about regarding Stoke, although, with the exceptions of a few morons, surely the one place you are least likely to find an objective discussion about Stoke City is the Oatcake, not the Sunderland Message Board? I think that on the whole that thread was very complimentary to Stoke and Gudjohnson.
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Post by coggy on Sept 1, 2010 23:34:06 GMT
Plus find a good post on there now about KJ ? They were in melt down when he left now he is shite over night !
Take what they say about EG the same way, the most arrogant fans in the prem who took over their mag friends when Boro & them went down, the chip on their shoulders when that happened expanded 10 fold and is yet to deflate !
Ignore !
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Post by coggy on Sept 1, 2010 23:36:42 GMT
Who cares what people are saying about Stoke as long as people are actually talking about you? I am not really sure what you think we have to be bitter about regarding Stoke, although, with the exceptions of a few morons, surely the one place you are least likely to find an objective discussion about Stoke City is the Oatcake, not the Sunderland Message Board? I think that on the whole that thread was very complimentary to Stoke and Gudjohnson. Sorry Captain ,i like you mate but can't stand the majority of your fans . Way too arrogant for me and just being honest mate. |
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Post by frostywalrus on Sept 1, 2010 23:36:43 GMT
Plus find a good post on there now about KJ ? They were in melt down when he left now he is shite over night ! Take what they say about EG the same way, the most arrogant fans in the prem who took over their mag friends when Boro & them went down, the chip on their shoulders when that happened expanded 10 fold and is yet to deflate ! Ignore ! Christ they are no where near on the same level as arrogance as the geordie contingent, Some of them have been saying the likes of Barton should be in the England squad. |
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Post by captainfishpaste on Sept 1, 2010 23:37:22 GMT
Plus find a good post on there now about KJ ? They were in melt down when he left now he is shite over night ! Take what they say about EG the same way, the most arrogant fans in the prem who took over their mag friends when Boro & them went down, the chip on their shoulders when that happened expanded 10 fold and is yet to deflate ! Ignore ! Ha'way Coggy, marra, that's harsh. Usually have a hell of a lot of time and respect for your posts but you've been going well over the top about us mackems lately. I agree that on occasion our fans and our message board can be a little vitriolic towards Stoke, but that particular thread is quite objective and fair on the whole. |
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Post by The Red and White Baron on Sept 1, 2010 23:38:00 GMT
Don't know why they keep posting these anti-Stoke threads. Pretty strange considering we have similar clubs.
Always makes me laugh when they write things like "why has (insert player name) gone to Stoke? It's a shithole!" Right because Sunderland is such a wonderful place isn't it?
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Post by mailman44 on Sept 1, 2010 23:38:30 GMT
Pressure is defo on Bruce to take that club to the next level and challenge for Europe. They have forked out a LOT of cash the past two seasons but have not seen much come out of it. I will say that El Mahomody looks a very good signing. Bombs up the right side and gets the ball into the box. Can play RM or RB. We could use a RB like him.
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Post by captainfishpaste on Sept 1, 2010 23:42:07 GMT
Don't know why they keep posting these anti-Stoke threads. Pretty strange considering we have similar clubs. Always makes me laugh when they write things like "why has (insert player name) gone to Stoke? It's a shithole!" Right because Sunderland is such a wonderful place isn't it? That thread there on Gudjohnson was pretty much a debate over whether he could fit into your current set up and if not, whether or not Pulis will be able to evolve your side into a side that he can thrive in. There are half a dozen threads like that on here every day asking the same questions and having the same debate. What's the problem? |
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Post by frostywalrus on Sept 1, 2010 23:42:40 GMT
Pressure is defo on Bruce to take that club to the next level and challenge for Europe. They have forked out a LOT of cash the past two seasons but have not seen much come out of it. I will say that El Mahomody looks a very good signing. Bombs up the right side and gets the ball into the box. Can play RM or RB. We could use a RB like him. They have had some decent players added to their squad over the summer by Bruce himself. That Egyptian bloke, Riveros was more than good at the World Cup, They have signed that Mensah fella too and he also looked quite good and have also signed Gyan. Very much doubt his job will be at risk. |
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Post by coggy on Sept 1, 2010 23:43:30 GMT
Plus find a good post on there now about KJ ? They were in melt down when he left now he is shite over night ! Take what they say about EG the same way, the most arrogant fans in the prem who took over their mag friends when Boro & them went down, the chip on their shoulders when that happened expanded 10 fold and is yet to deflate ! Ignore ! Ha'way Coggy, marra, that's harsh. Usually have a hell of a lot of time and respect for your posts but you've been going well over the top about us mackems lately. I agree that on occasion our fans and our message board can be a little vitriolic towards Stoke, but that particular thread is quite objective and fair on the whole. I have a huge amount of respect for you Captain and will ALWAYS look at for your posts on here and engage. I made the mistake of taking an interest a while back in your forum and should have pulled away to be honest. I have seen way too much arrogance for me to change my view Captain. We all have idiots (We have loads  ) but it's the underline arrogance when to be fair you have nothing at all to be arrogant about which just does not sit with me. Like i said, you are a top lad but i steer clear as much as possible from your forum mate because i think it's a shame where this huge chip has appeared from. |
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Post by coggy on Sept 1, 2010 23:44:40 GMT
Plus find a good post on there now about KJ ? They were in melt down when he left now he is shite over night ! Take what they say about EG the same way, the most arrogant fans in the prem who took over their mag friends when Boro & them went down, the chip on their shoulders when that happened expanded 10 fold and is yet to deflate ! Ignore ! Christ they are no where near on the same level as arrogance as the geordie contingent, Some of them have been saying the likes of Barton should be in the England squad. Trust me, spend a couple of weeks dropping in now and then ...they are ! Very sad but true ! |
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Post by prettyricky on Sept 1, 2010 23:45:48 GMT
I never minded Mackems don't really know any though but I hate Geordies so that probably helps same as I say like the whole image of Sunderland 'The Stadium of Light' how fucking good is that, great team, good football, can't remember a bad game against em, got nout to hold against em, hope they do well just not as well as us eh  |
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Post by Roy Cropper on Sept 1, 2010 23:47:06 GMT
There as arrogant as their Geordie friends these days, we've finished above them two seasons running playing the same style as them (however much they wish they were Arsenal/Chelsea, just look at the two times they played us).
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 1, 2010 23:47:28 GMT
Let's not worry about what anyone else says. We are Stoke and whether we sink or swim is determined by what our team do on the pitch.
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Post by tommy2dogs on Sept 1, 2010 23:48:23 GMT
They ain't a piece of paper between the pair of us, a few more fans granted, we've spent ruffly the same over the last couple of years, time will tell nowt as been proven yet with signings we've both made, if we are scraping for the Honor of a higher mid tabled place at the end of the season I'll bee happy
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Post by frostywalrus on Sept 1, 2010 23:49:23 GMT
There as arrogant as their Geordie friends these days, we've finished above them two seasons running playing the same style as them (however much they wish they were Arsenal/Chelsea, just look at the two times they played us). Have you actually read that thread or are you thick as fuck ? |
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Post by nickscfc on Sept 1, 2010 23:49:49 GMT
I think there pretty jealous to be honest. (Though they do talk some sense). Eidur Gudjohnsen is simply a world class player...a player they would love to have...also a bit bitter over losing one of their best players in Kenwyne Jones understandably.
They've spent alot of money on Gyan...a massive gamble the kid came from Rennes...he had a decent world cup but as we know (Salif Diao springs to mind ;D) that doesnt mean your suddenly able to provide the goods on a consistant basis in the most demanding league in the world.
For 13 million you'd be wanting him to be banging in around 15 goals at least...i personally dont think he will.
Could be a great signing...could be a total flop...i dont reckon somewhere in the middle.
Would rather have KJ and Eidur and Ric, Tuncay, and Pennant any day over their lot!
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Post by coggy on Sept 1, 2010 23:52:30 GMT
I think there pretty jealous to be honest. Eidur Gudjohnsen is simply a world class player...a player they would love to have...also a bit bitter over losing one of their best players in Kenwyne Jones. They've spent alot of money on Gyan...a massive gamble the kid came from Rennes...he had a decent world cup but as we know (Salif Diao springs to mind ;D) that doesnt mean your suddenly able to provide the goods on a consistant basis in the most demanding league in the world. For 13 million you'd be wanting him to be banging in around 15 goals at least...i personally dont think he will. Could be a great signing...could be a total flop...i dont reckon somewhere in the middle. Would rather have KJ and Eidur and Ric, Tuncay, and Pennant any day over their lot! There not jealous mate they just love to hate us and see themselves way above us (Arrogance). I don't think they are jealous one bit and they don't have any reason to be. |
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Post by The Red and White Baron on Sept 1, 2010 23:54:03 GMT
Don't know why they keep posting these anti-Stoke threads. Pretty strange considering we have similar clubs. Always makes me laugh when they write things like "why has (insert player name) gone to Stoke? It's a shithole!" Right because Sunderland is such a wonderful place isn't it? That thread there on Gudjohnson was pretty much a debate over whether he could fit into your current set up and if not, whether or not Pulis will be able to evolve your side into a side that he can thrive in. There are half a dozen threads like that on here every day asking the same questions and having the same debate. What's the problem? No, no problem. I wasn't actually refering to that particular thread as it seemed pretty balenced. I meant more anti-Stoke threads in general over the last 3-5 months. |
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Post by captainfishpaste on Sept 1, 2010 23:55:11 GMT
Ha'way Coggy, marra, that's harsh. Usually have a hell of a lot of time and respect for your posts but you've been going well over the top about us mackems lately. I agree that on occasion our fans and our message board can be a little vitriolic towards Stoke, but that particular thread is quite objective and fair on the whole. I have a huge amount of respect for you Captain and will ALWAYS look at for your posts on here and engage. I made the mistake of taking an interest a while back in your forum and should have pulled away to be honest. I have seen way too much arrogance for me to change my view Captain. We all have idiots (We have loads ) but it's the underline arrogance when to be fair you have nothing at all to be arrogant about which just does not sit with me. Like i said, you are a top lad but i steer clear as much as possible from your forum mate because i think it's a shame where this huge chip has appeared from. Well, you know me mate, I have no problem with coming on here and slagging off the Sunderland fans on our message board when they have shown that exact same arrogance as to mention here. When Jones left our fans were shocked, dissappointed, but most probably embarrassed be because for over a year they had mocked Stoke and suddenly you have taken a plyer from us that they wanted to keep. Result being a lot of them made an absolute tit out of themselves. But that has settled down a lot and blown over, as emotions tend to and the prevalent view over on the SMB is that Stoke have had a very good window, signed some very good players, made some real progress in the kind of players you can now attract, but asking questions about the pitfalls of evolving as a team to be able to accomodate the new bread of players you can now boast. That's just the same view as goes on here really. Should also mention - near enough every day I log in here I see my club referred to as "Blunderland". Would be very easy for me to throw the "arrogance" card at this place and tar Stokies with the same brush seeing that. Ultimately, though, I have to appreciate it is a Stoke meassage board and I have no right to expect anything other than a heavily favourable and bias general opinion towards Stoke, and an unfavourable one towards your rivals, which we presently are. We are no different on our message board, and why should we be? We all love our clubs. No shame or crime in that. |
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Post by nickscfc on Sept 1, 2010 23:55:45 GMT
I think there pretty jealous to be honest. Eidur Gudjohnsen is simply a world class player...a player they would love to have...also a bit bitter over losing one of their best players in Kenwyne Jones. They've spent alot of money on Gyan...a massive gamble the kid came from Rennes...he had a decent world cup but as we know (Salif Diao springs to mind ;D) that doesnt mean your suddenly able to provide the goods on a consistant basis in the most demanding league in the world. For 13 million you'd be wanting him to be banging in around 15 goals at least...i personally dont think he will. Could be a great signing...could be a total flop...i dont reckon somewhere in the middle. Would rather have KJ and Eidur and Ric, Tuncay, and Pennant any day over their lot! There not jealous mate they just love to hate us and see themselves way above us (Arrogance). I don't think they are jealous one bit and they don't have any reason to be. If they are what you say then i find that totally mad. I cant possibly understand how they could think they are leagues above us. Why the fuck cant some teams just say "well done Stoke..Tony Pulis has done a superb job.. etc" |
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Post by march4 on Sept 1, 2010 23:56:09 GMT
If I was a Sunderland fan, I would be very, very concerned at what happened around Christmas time last year.
I thought they would be sensible this summer and cut their crippling outgoings, but then yesterday they threw away all the good work. Gyan is an incredible gamble financially.
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