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Post by frostywalrus on Sept 1, 2010 23:56:51 GMT
I think there pretty jealous to be honest. (Though they do talk some sense). Eidur Gudjohnsen is simply a world class player...a player they would love to have...also a bit bitter over losing one of their best players in Kenwyne Jones understandably. They've spent alot of money on Gyan...a massive gamble the kid came from Rennes...he had a decent world cup but as we know (Salif Diao springs to mind ;D) that doesnt mean your suddenly able to provide the goods on a consistant basis in the most demanding league in the world. For 13 million you'd be wanting him to be banging in around 15 goals at least...i personally dont think he will. Could be a great signing...could be a total flop...i dont reckon somewhere in the middle. Would rather have KJ and Eidur and Ric, Tuncay, and Pennant any day over their lot! Gyan is not an out and out goalscorer though to be fair he's more of a link up player so to speak. And also, you wouldn't have Darren Bent ? I know I would.
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Post by tommy2dogs on Sept 2, 2010 0:00:45 GMT
If I was a Sunderland fan, I would be very, very concerned at what happened around Christmas time last year. I thought they would be sensible this summer and cut their crippling outgoings, but then yesterday they threw away all the good work. Gyan is an incredible gamble financially. In all fairness March4 so are our signings, justs lets see how our seasons progress.
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Post by nickscfc on Sept 2, 2010 0:02:05 GMT
I think there pretty jealous to be honest. (Though they do talk some sense). Eidur Gudjohnsen is simply a world class player...a player they would love to have...also a bit bitter over losing one of their best players in Kenwyne Jones understandably. They've spent alot of money on Gyan...a massive gamble the kid came from Rennes...he had a decent world cup but as we know (Salif Diao springs to mind ;D) that doesnt mean your suddenly able to provide the goods on a consistant basis in the most demanding league in the world. For 13 million you'd be wanting him to be banging in around 15 goals at least...i personally dont think he will. Could be a great signing...could be a total flop...i dont reckon somewhere in the middle. Would rather have KJ and Eidur and Ric, Tuncay, and Pennant any day over their lot! Gyan is not an out and out goalscorer though to be fair he's more of a link up player so to speak. And also, you wouldn't have Darren Bent ? I know I would. Yes Darren Bent is certainly 1 player I would have at Stoke...though after this window...im not sure who he would replace.
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Post by tommy2dogs on Sept 2, 2010 0:02:52 GMT
'Gamble' that is!
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Post by frostywalrus on Sept 2, 2010 0:03:39 GMT
I have a huge amount of respect for you Captain and will ALWAYS look at for your posts on here and engage. I made the mistake of taking an interest a while back in your forum and should have pulled away to be honest. I have seen way too much arrogance for me to change my view Captain. We all have idiots (We have loads ) but it's the underline arrogance when to be fair you have nothing at all to be arrogant about which just does not sit with me. Like i said, you are a top lad but i steer clear as much as possible from your forum mate because i think it's a shame where this huge chip has appeared from. Well, you know me mate, I have no problem with coming on here and slagging off the Sunderland fans on our message board when they have shown that exact same arrogance as to mention here. When Jones left our fans were shocked, dissappointed, but most probably embarrassed be because for over a year they had mocked Stoke and suddenly you have taken a plyer from us that they wanted to keep. Result being a lot of them made an absolute tit out of themselves. But that has settled down a lot and blown over, as emotions tend to and the prevalent view over on the SMB is that Stoke have had a very good window, signed some very good players, made some real progress in the kind of players you can now attract, but asking questions about the pitfalls of evolving as a team to be able to accomodate the new bread of players you can now boast. That's just the same view as goes on here really. Should also mention - near enough every day I log in here I see my club referred to as "Blunderland". Would be very easy for me to throw the "arrogance" card at this place and tar Stokies with the same brush seeing that. Ultimately, though, I have to appreciate it is a Stoke meassage board and I have no right to expect anything other than a heavily favourable and bias general opinion towards Stoke, and an unfavourable one towards your rivals, which we presently are. We are no different on our message board, and why should we be? We all love our clubs. No shame or crime in that. Wow What a very well thought out post Thumbs up to you...Spot on.
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Post by captainfishpaste on Sept 2, 2010 0:04:22 GMT
That thread there on Gudjohnson was pretty much a debate over whether he could fit into your current set up and if not, whether or not Pulis will be able to evolve your side into a side that he can thrive in. There are half a dozen threads like that on here every day asking the same questions and having the same debate. What's the problem? No, no problem. I wasn't actually refering to that particular thread as it seemed pretty balenced. I meant more anti-Stoke threads in general over the last 3-5 months. I am not sure how much you look at our boards. Could be just when a thread is linked on here which wants to slag us off. But should be noted that there is a fella who crops up at times when emotions are high between the two clubs (few days around our games etc and when you signed Jones) and willfully incites the message board. Just on one big wind up and comes across as a total arsehole. He claims to be a Stoke fan and an Oatcake member and, although there are a few good Stokies who post on the SMB, this fella creates a lot of bad feeling towards Stoke over there. World class wind-up merchant in all fairness, which is tremendous (;D), but when he associates himself with Stoke, and he is purposely making people dislike everything about him, and in their own back yard no less... well it's not hard to see how a bit of extra anti-Stoke sentiment can be created.
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Post by coggy on Sept 2, 2010 0:05:44 GMT
I actually like what Sunderland have and are doing. I like Bent and think he is an excellent player and loved it when he scored against Spurs his celebration was superb. I like SB and think he is a great manager who has balls ! He has gone in and really put his stamp on the team, made decisions that will make or break him and that takes guts.
I like the way he does business and is bloody good at balancing the books.
My best mate was a season ticket holder so i had a soft spot for them if i am honest.
The problem i have his this renewed arrogance. I have said before it grew hugely when Boro and the mags went down. They constantly have a dig at us and when i see that all the time i just eventually think well fook them.
It's a shame because they never used to be like that, we all have banter but there is a constant arrogance that just gets right on my tits !
Captain is a top top lad but i would not be true to myself if i did not say how it was for ME regarding a large chunk of their fans (Not all i must add)
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Post by frostywalrus on Sept 2, 2010 0:09:30 GMT
I actually like what Sunderland have and are doing. I like Bent and think he is an excellent player and loved it when he scored against Spurs his celebration was superb. I like SB and think he is a great manager who has balls ! He has gone in and really put his stamp on the team, made decisions that will make or break him and that takes guts. I like the way he does business and is bloody good at balancing the books. My best mate was a season ticket holder so i had a soft spot for them if i am honest. The problem i have his this renewed arrogance. I have said before it grew hugely when Boro and the mags went down. They constantly have a dig at us and when i see that all the time i just eventually think well fook them. It's a shame because they never used to be like that, we all have banter but there is a constant arrogance that just gets right on my tits ! Captain is a top top lad but i would not be true to myself if i did not say how it was for ME regarding a large chunk of their fans (Not all i must add) In all honesty though not every Sunderland fan goes on message boards and we all know at times the Internet has a lot of bravado especially with people sitting at keyboards being "warriors" It happens on every forum.
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Post by coggy on Sept 2, 2010 0:11:42 GMT
I have a huge amount of respect for you Captain and will ALWAYS look at for your posts on here and engage. I made the mistake of taking an interest a while back in your forum and should have pulled away to be honest. I have seen way too much arrogance for me to change my view Captain. We all have idiots (We have loads ) but it's the underline arrogance when to be fair you have nothing at all to be arrogant about which just does not sit with me. Like i said, you are a top lad but i steer clear as much as possible from your forum mate because i think it's a shame where this huge chip has appeared from. Well, you know me mate, I have no problem with coming on here and slagging off the Sunderland fans on our message board when they have shown that exact same arrogance as to mention here. When Jones left our fans were shocked, dissappointed, but most probably embarrassed be because for over a year they had mocked Stoke and suddenly you have taken a plyer from us that they wanted to keep. Result being a lot of them made an absolute tit out of themselves. But that has settled down a lot and blown over, as emotions tend to and the prevalent view over on the SMB is that Stoke have had a very good window, signed some very good players, made some real progress in the kind of players you can now attract, but asking questions about the pitfalls of evolving as a team to be able to accomodate the new bread of players you can now boast. That's just the same view as goes on here really. Should also mention - near enough every day I log in here I see my club referred to as "Blunderland". Would be very easy for me to throw the "arrogance" card at this place and tar Stokies with the same brush seeing that. Ultimately, though, I have to appreciate it is a Stoke meassage board and I have no right to expect anything other than a heavily favourable and bias general opinion towards Stoke, and an unfavourable one towards your rivals, which we presently are. We are no different on our message board, and why should we be? We all love our clubs. No shame or crime in that. Great post as always Captain. If my issue was based on us being called Sjoke then i could well be accused of going over the top but it isn't. I go on a lot of boards and i believe i am not being biased or unfair to say that your board is quite a lot different to others with regards to Stoke but that's my opinion.
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Post by captainfishpaste on Sept 2, 2010 0:26:36 GMT
Well, you know me mate, I have no problem with coming on here and slagging off the Sunderland fans on our message board when they have shown that exact same arrogance as to mention here. When Jones left our fans were shocked, dissappointed, but most probably embarrassed be because for over a year they had mocked Stoke and suddenly you have taken a plyer from us that they wanted to keep. Result being a lot of them made an absolute tit out of themselves. But that has settled down a lot and blown over, as emotions tend to and the prevalent view over on the SMB is that Stoke have had a very good window, signed some very good players, made some real progress in the kind of players you can now attract, but asking questions about the pitfalls of evolving as a team to be able to accomodate the new bread of players you can now boast. That's just the same view as goes on here really. Should also mention - near enough every day I log in here I see my club referred to as "Blunderland". Would be very easy for me to throw the "arrogance" card at this place and tar Stokies with the same brush seeing that. Ultimately, though, I have to appreciate it is a Stoke meassage board and I have no right to expect anything other than a heavily favourable and bias general opinion towards Stoke, and an unfavourable one towards your rivals, which we presently are. We are no different on our message board, and why should we be? We all love our clubs. No shame or crime in that. Great post as always Captain. If my issue was based on us being called Sjoke then i could well be accused of going over the top but it isn't. I go on a lot of boards and i believe i am not being biased or unfair to say that your board is quite a lot different to others with regards to Stoke but that's my opinion. One massive issue that I have with our support is the pretention. For some reason, there is a sizable section of people on our message board who believe that pissing about in the second tier and generally embarrassing ourselves for best part of 40 years qualifies us to demand total football and look down our noses at anyone who don't mind kicking a long ball or two. With Stoke's media reputation, and your status as the most visible and successful team with a more direct style, that means Stoke get to be on the end of it when these tossers want to vent their ignorant and pretention-fuelled vitriol. But to be honest, Stoke get mentioned a lot on our forum for the same reason Sunderland get mentioned a lot on here - we are competing against each other in the same area of the table, against each other to try and be the ones who break into that top 8 or so, and there is an added interest because of the huge amount of deals between the two clubs over the last few years. It is not so much anti-Stoke as it is massively pro-Sunderland, as you would expect on a SAFC board. If we weren't around each other in the league every year neither set of fans could care less about the other.
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Post by tommy2dogs on Sept 2, 2010 0:39:33 GMT
above^^^^^^.........justa t the moment we are veerryy similar. good nite and don't let the misses in on your cheeky w''''''k ;D
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Post by coggy on Sept 2, 2010 0:39:42 GMT
Great post as always Captain. If my issue was based on us being called Sjoke then i could well be accused of going over the top but it isn't. I go on a lot of boards and i believe i am not being biased or unfair to say that your board is quite a lot different to others with regards to Stoke but that's my opinion. One massive issue that I have with our support is the pretention. For some reason, there is a sizable section of people on our message board who believe that pissing about in the second tier and generally embarrassing ourselves for best part of 40 years qualifies us to demand total football and look down our noses at anyone who don't mind kicking a long ball or two. With Stoke's media reputation, and your status as the most visible and successful team with a more direct style, that means Stoke get to be on the end of it when these tossers want to vent their ignorant and pretention-fuelled vitriol. But to be honest, Stoke get mentioned a lot on our forum for the same reason Sunderland get mentioned a lot on here - we are competing against each other in the same area of the table, against each other to try and be the ones who break into that top 8 or so, and there is an added interest because of the huge amount of deals between the two clubs over the last few years. It is not so much anti-Stoke as it is massively pro-Sunderland, as you would expect on a SAFC board. If we weren't around each other in the league every year neither set of fans could care less about the other. That is a very good point mate. I think it's your first paragraph that has got to me and which i have experienced. I don't want to rant any more Captain and i think if i stop popping over to your forum my feelings will decline ;D Always good to have a debate with you matey and i have at least let my thoughts out but for me more than anything i will now retreat from having a pop because i will be doing exactly the same towards Sunderland that got my back up in the first place about us Back to chat ! Is there anyone in your 25 who surprised you or anyone left out that you thought would have been in ?
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Post by captainfishpaste on Sept 2, 2010 0:43:47 GMT
One massive issue that I have with our support is the pretention. For some reason, there is a sizable section of people on our message board who believe that pissing about in the second tier and generally embarrassing ourselves for best part of 40 years qualifies us to demand total football and look down our noses at anyone who don't mind kicking a long ball or two. With Stoke's media reputation, and your status as the most visible and successful team with a more direct style, that means Stoke get to be on the end of it when these tossers want to vent their ignorant and pretention-fuelled vitriol. But to be honest, Stoke get mentioned a lot on our forum for the same reason Sunderland get mentioned a lot on here - we are competing against each other in the same area of the table, against each other to try and be the ones who break into that top 8 or so, and there is an added interest because of the huge amount of deals between the two clubs over the last few years. It is not so much anti-Stoke as it is massively pro-Sunderland, as you would expect on a SAFC board. If we weren't around each other in the league every year neither set of fans could care less about the other. That is a very good point mate. I think it's your first paragraph that has got to me and which i have experienced. I don't want to rant any more Captain and i think if i stop popping over to your forum my feelings will decline ;D Always good to have a debate with you matey and i have at least let my thoughts out but for me more than anything i will now retreat from having a pop because i will be doing exactly the same towards Sunderland that got my back up in the first place about us Back to chat ! Is there anyone in your 25 who surprised you or anyone left out that you thought would have been in ? Some fella called Robbie Weir is in our 25 man squad and I haven't a scoobies who he is! ;D Apart from that no real shocks. The squad is listed in full below (* denotes home-grown player): ANGELERI, Marcos BARDSLEY, Phil* BENT, Darren* BRAMBLE, Titus* CAMPBELL, Fraizer* CARSON, Trevor* CATTERMOLE, Lee* DA SILVA, Paulo ELMOHAMADY, Ahmed FERDINAND, Anton* GORDON, Craig GYAN, Asamoah HEALY, David* MALBRANQUE, Steed McCARTNEY, George* MENSAH, John MIGNOLET, Simon ONUOHA, Nedum* REID, Andy* RICHARDSON, Kieran* RIVEROS, Cristian TURNER, Michael* WEIR, Robbie* ZENDEN, Boudewijn The following players are under 21 and as such do not have to be named in the 25-man squad: (Just included the notable ones) COLBACK, Jack HENDERSON, Jordan MEYLER, David NOBLE, Ryan WELBECK, Danny
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Post by coggy on Sept 2, 2010 0:47:30 GMT
That is a very good point mate. I think it's your first paragraph that has got to me and which i have experienced. I don't want to rant any more Captain and i think if i stop popping over to your forum my feelings will decline ;D Always good to have a debate with you matey and i have at least let my thoughts out but for me more than anything i will now retreat from having a pop because i will be doing exactly the same towards Sunderland that got my back up in the first place about us Back to chat ! Is there anyone in your 25 who surprised you or anyone left out that you thought would have been in ? Some fella called Robbie Weir is in our 25 man squad and I haven't a scoobies who he is! ;D Apart from that no real shocks. The squad is listed in full below (* denotes home-grown player): ANGELERI, Marcos BARDSLEY, Phil* BENT, Darren* BRAMBLE, Titus* CAMPBELL, Fraizer* CARSON, Trevor* CATTERMOLE, Lee* DA SILVA, Paulo ELMOHAMADY, Ahmed FERDINAND, Anton* GORDON, Craig GYAN, Asamoah HEALY, David* MALBRANQUE, Steed McCARTNEY, George* MENSAH, John MIGNOLET, Simon ONUOHA, Nedum* REID, Andy* RICHARDSON, Kieran* RIVEROS, Cristian TURNER, Michael* WEIR, Robbie* ZENDEN, Boudewijn The following players are under 21 and as such do not have to be named in the 25-man squad: (Just included the notable ones) COLBACK, Jack HENDERSON, Jordan MEYLER, David NOBLE, Ryan WELBECK, Danny ;D ;D ;D Does this help ;D ;D www.safc.com/page/ReserveSquadProfiles/0,,10281~1707912,00.html Looks good mate ! You are certainly building a good YOUNG squad that's for sure ! Thought you would have lost Bardsley by now but don't even think of sending him our way ;D Collins is enough for any man !
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Post by tommy2dogs on Sept 2, 2010 0:53:46 GMT
Some fella called Robbie Weir is in our 25 man squad and I haven't a scoobies who he is! ;D Apart from that no real shocks. The squad is listed in full below (* denotes home-grown player): ANGELERI, Marcos BARDSLEY, Phil* BENT, Darren* BRAMBLE, Titus* CAMPBELL, Fraizer* CARSON, Trevor* CATTERMOLE, Lee* DA SILVA, Paulo ELMOHAMADY, Ahmed FERDINAND, Anton* GORDON, Craig GYAN, Asamoah HEALY, David* MALBRANQUE, Steed McCARTNEY, George* MENSAH, John MIGNOLET, Simon ONUOHA, Nedum* REID, Andy* RICHARDSON, Kieran* RIVEROS, Cristian TURNER, Michael* WEIR, Robbie* ZENDEN, Boudewijn The following players are under 21 and as such do not have to be named in the 25-man squad: (Just included the notable ones) COLBACK, Jack HENDERSON, Jordan MEYLER, David NOBLE, Ryan WELBECK, Danny ;D ;D ;D Does this help ;D ;D www.safc.com/page/ReserveSquadProfiles/0,,10281~1707912,00.html Looks good mate ! You are certainly building a good YOUNG squad that's for sure ! Thought you would have lost Bardsley by now but don't even think of sending him our way ;D Collins is enough for any man ! Before you two completely ignore me ;D.....josh pery as just signed up. Coggy you have a friend
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Post by captainfishpaste on Sept 2, 2010 0:55:44 GMT
Bardsley appears to be 3rd or 4th choice right back atm. Onuoha seems to be first choice, I am presuming Bruce didn't sign Angeleri for hair styling tips (Angeleri isn't fit atm), and Ferdinand started at right back on Sunday when Onuoha couldn't play against his former club. Despite all that, Bardsley did very well on Sunday when he came on at half time on Sunday. he is in his last year of his contract now though so can't see him getting another. Would have loved to have got rid of McCartney, Healy, and Bardsley before the window and spend the money on N'Zogbia or something but not many clubs spending money this summer unfortunately. Still, can't have everything, I guess. Jordan Henderson is the ONE to watch, though. Absolute top young player. Could very well go all the way.
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Post by march4 on Sept 2, 2010 0:57:07 GMT
Captain, Good to see you posting on here again.
Let's hope we both finish in the top half this season!
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Post by captainfishpaste on Sept 2, 2010 0:58:56 GMT
Captain, Good to see you posting on here again. Let's hope we both finish in the top half this season! An alarm goes off in my bunker when Sunderland is mentioned on the oatcake, marra. ;D
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Sept 2, 2010 4:39:17 GMT
Captain, Good to see you posting on here again. Let's hope we both finish in the top half this season! An alarm goes off in my bunker when Sunderland is mentioned on the oatcake, marra. ;D Our mutual hatred of the Geordies will always make you welcome as far as I'm concerned Captain. Some of the points raised on your board regarding shoehorning players into our system are valid. There is also some brightspark on there who thinks we may be trying to evolve our footballing style. You should advise him to keep quiet Captain. Only two things can come of this kind of talk, a spell in a padded cell or assassination by un-named members of the Oatcake message board. As long as teams and fans keep believing the media about our style of play, the easier it will be to fly under the radar and develop our old school system of a formidable defence, a solid central midfield, with fast attacking wingers aiming crosses in to two right big nasty bastards in the middle
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Post by northstokie on Sept 2, 2010 5:51:48 GMT
Another example was the N'Zog to Stoke thread on there, I went across on deadline day to share the drama and just got a load of abuse
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Post by wigginbird on Sept 2, 2010 6:03:15 GMT
I'm not quite sure why a 32 year old International who has played for Chelsea, Barcelona and Monaco needs to put himself in the Shop Window as one of them claims, what he wants is to play, his playing days are ticking away, he really doesn't need the money, after a decade on very good wages. He just wants to play, and I expect the 1 year aspect is that we have taken over his remianing contract (with monaco paying a %age) , and if he plays enough, and we do OK, we may re-sign after the year
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Post by markscfc72 on Sept 2, 2010 6:16:27 GMT
Dave he is not 32 until a week Wednesday
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Post by doitforfrank on Sept 2, 2010 6:32:13 GMT
Tin Hat on. Like a lot on the Sunderland board, I thought he looked pretty un-interested about being here.
Conversely, it was also refreshing to here a modern day footballer say he wanted to play football rather than watch the boats in Monaco harbour, which lets face it, is quite tempting when you get £75,000 a week for sitting on your arse.
Hopefully he's just a very laid back character who takes everything in his stride, and then really gets going once he steps foot on a pitch.
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Post by fca47 on Sept 2, 2010 6:40:11 GMT
The truth is no-one knows how good new signings will turn out to be or what effect they will have on the team. It is all conjecture. You can be positive and imagine they will be great or pessimistic and think they will be crap. Opposition fans, because of the competitive nature of the sport tend to take the pessimistic view in the hope we will do worse than them, whereas supporters take the optimistic view, apart from the usual moaners. But in reality no-one knows how things Will turn out, it's what happens on the pitch that counts. I thought Dave Kitson would be a great signing, whereas lots on here thought Walters was a bad signing. You just don't know. I am at the moment optimistic but if we lose to Villa I will probably feel suicidal about the signings.
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Post by actongatestokie on Sept 2, 2010 6:45:50 GMT
I would take a lot of what is said on there with a pinch of salt. I was reading a thread on there once and stumbled across one intelligent wag who described Ricardo Fuller as a hustle and bustle target man type... Anyway, I digress. To be fair he did look uninterested in being here - probably for the fact that he has been sitting on his arse for the best part of 5 years and the transition from the sunny bays of Monaco to the grey and depressing (in comparison) Stoke has made him realise that he has, for the best part, failed. That doesn't mean he hasn't realised it and will try his damndest to make the most of what is left of his career does it? As for the comparisons with Tuncay - forget it. Eidur is twice the player and his footballing ability will shine through far more than Tuncay's ever did. And finally mercenary? Please don't tell me Asamoah Gyan has rocked up at Sunderland and they have lapped up the "Sunderland are an ambitious club and so am I" claptrap? ALL footballers play for the club that feed them the most money.
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Post by scota4 on Sept 2, 2010 7:15:23 GMT
What a dick another case of someone spouting shite - Ediur came to Stoke because of our links with his father/agent he seems to be very bitter to me he did have offers from other clubs but chose to play at Stoke. Steve Bruce most boring man in football I'm sure his favela melting.
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Post by Jimmy Cooper on Sept 2, 2010 7:33:18 GMT
Sorry Captain, that thread reeks of arrogance. I wouldn't have a problem really, but coming from a team who've finished below us in the last two seasons, and played (a lot of the time) more kick and rush football than us at our worst...
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Post by sufolkstokie on Sept 2, 2010 7:40:17 GMT
Talk about some people nit picking. I couldnt give a damn if a football player gets some pom poms out and does as special dance because he is that excited about joining a new club.
I only really care how they perform on the pitch, gel with the team and not let the cub down.
Oh and EG stated (without pom poms) he joined us for footballing reasons - that will do me
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Post by isaaccox on Sept 2, 2010 7:46:10 GMT
They don't know what they are on about.They think all our strikers run all match to win the ball.
Beattie? No Fuller? no Kitson? no
And why would we want them to?
And 12M for that gyan, a fella that has never done better than scoring 1 every 3 games, in shit leagues aswell to be fair.He scored against serbia,australlia and USA in the world cup, and missed a penalty against uruguay in the last minute.Hardly world class teams are they?
I think that's the most expensive transfer of the summer and would rather kenwyne any day of the week.
They don't really know anything about stoke, like one of them says "kenywne was very lazy against chelsea,depending on what paper you read"
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Post by northstokie on Sept 2, 2010 7:52:06 GMT
They sold KJ for 8m, we only gave them 2m up front which they had to give straight back to KJ and then they shelled out 13m for a player who was available for 3.5m before the World Cup
Wonder why they are bitter
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