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Post by doitforfrank on May 25, 2010 19:23:40 GMT
A couple of years ago, I was quite excited about the prospect of the so called Z man.
However we couldnt agree a deal then, and Stoke as a club, dont really like wasting their time twice. And "IF" we are looking to change the system, then, Zigic, may not fit into the new ideas.
Contrary to all the negativity on here, I'd quite like to see Heskey in a Stoke shirt, what he has done over the years for a "little" striker has been immense, Michael Owen for Liverpool and England, and more latterly with Rooney for England, may give Fuller/Tuncay the extra service they crave. Check out Rooneys scoring record for England, with and without Heskey. If he plays with Crouch, he has to do so much more work to get on the ball (as per last night), whereas with Heskey, he gets more through balls, and knock ons from which he generally scores.
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Post by yorkshirestokie on May 25, 2010 19:26:32 GMT
has he signed?
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Post by thepremierbanksy on May 25, 2010 19:43:51 GMT
have you got any links for that March? Not being funny but you've stated that pretty much every club in the league are on the brink of going bust in the past couple of years and whilst that is by no means unfeasable, you've hardly been prophetic. I have been spot on Banksy every single time!!!! I would not have stated the above unless I was certain. Money is the one thing in life I know about (obviously I know nothing worthwhile about football). Believe me when I say that what happened at Pompey is small fry compared to what is going on at Brum. I'll have to take your word for it then, March. PS Can you lend me £50?
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Post by stokie63 on May 25, 2010 19:50:26 GMT
wheres the orange seller to tell us whats going on? parkinsbelly was his name wasnt it?
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Post by serpico on May 25, 2010 19:51:24 GMT
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Post by PolPotter on May 25, 2010 19:54:26 GMT
This Zigic situation has a very Rikki Dadason feel about it.
Will be interesting to see Zigic playing in the Premiership and then reading the 'I told you so' posts.
Merry Christmas.
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Post by Mozzaa on May 25, 2010 20:07:29 GMT
I'm going to set up a business a Razor & Noose seller could be a big hit on here Anyway back to conversation...Marc Janko anyone?. I'd prefer sign this feller up for around £5m than the Big Z and his wages won't be stupid.
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Post by NG4POTTERS on May 25, 2010 20:40:18 GMT
He's having a medical now so it's just said on SSN
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Post by serpico on May 25, 2010 20:50:24 GMT
It's simple maths. Zigic is 6ft8 - delap long throw? - goals
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Post by PoisonedDonkey on May 25, 2010 20:54:42 GMT
Don't like him anymore, I hope he's a complete flop who sends the Brummy wankers down to the NPower Championship.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 25, 2010 20:54:43 GMT
Difficult to deal with? ;D
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Post by LGH87 on May 25, 2010 20:56:09 GMT
Zigic in a stoke shirt would produce more goals than messi and rooney put together!
Delap > Zigic = Goal
Higgy > Zigic > Fuller = Goal
Ethers > Zigic = Goal
Shawcross > Zigic > Fuller = Goal
in the words of an annoying meerkat....SIMPLES! ;D
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Post by NG4POTTERS on May 25, 2010 20:58:40 GMT
Difficult to deal with? ;D Yeah they seem like a real tough nut to crack ;D, the story breaks, a few hours later he's suddenly in birmingham having a medical.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 25, 2010 21:00:23 GMT
And I don't think we'll get that with good ol' Emile.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on May 25, 2010 21:00:39 GMT
He's having a medical now so it's just said on SSN If we genuinely aren't interested in him anymore then it's fair enough. I just hope we haven't been caught with our dick in our hand again. I can just imagine the phone call now... TP: Hi Tone, how's things in my absence? TS: Err, not too bad Tony, things are starting to get very busy. TP: Good stuff, I knew you'd be working 'arrd. How's the deal for the big lad from Serbia going? I can't wait to see him getting on the end of Rory's throws! TS: I don't really know how to tell you this but he's signing for Birmingham. TP: Sorry Tone, these bloody phone lines are terrible out here, it sounded like you said Zigic was signing for Big Eck and I know that can't be right! TS (in hushed voice) I did. Phone line goes dead. TP: Tone, Tone are you still there?
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Post by jarhead on May 25, 2010 21:03:37 GMT
Sidibe and Hulse it is then! fuck me
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Post by teflondel on May 25, 2010 21:05:19 GMT
How come that every other player that we were linked with or said to be after 2 seasons ago are not good enough as we have now moved on, where as the wrist slashers are out in force because brum are looking like signing Zigic.
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Post by LGH87 on May 25, 2010 21:05:25 GMT
He's having a medical now so it's just said on SSN If we genuinely aren't interested in him anymore then it's fair enough. I just hope we haven't been caught with our dick in our hand again. I can just imagine the phone call now... TP: Hi Tone, how's things in my absence? TS: Err, not too bad Tony, things are starting to get very busy. TP: Good stuff, I knew you'd be working 'arrd. How's the deal for the big lad from Serbia going? I can't wait to see him getting on the end of Rory's throws! TS: I don't really know how to tell you this but he's signing for Birmingham. TP: Sorry Tone, these bloody phone lines are terrible out here, it sounded like you said Zigic was signing for Big Eck and I know that can't be right! TS (in hushed voice) I did. Phone line goes dead. TP: Tone, Tone are you still there? then before the first game of the season 'i wasnt going to waster Peter's money on players who are no better than what we have already, hence we start with Mama up front on his own today, Ric's been struggling and we hope to get 20 minutes out of him. Mama works aaard, he nearly died playing for Mali and nearly lost his career to a knee injury.....people need to remember these things and praise Mama for being the player he is today' oh how i love the transfer windows!
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Post by FullerMagic on May 25, 2010 21:10:01 GMT
How come that every other player that we were linked with or said to be after 2 seasons ago are not good enough as we have now moved on, where as the wrist slashers are out in force because brum are looking like signing Zigic. Because none of the others have a 1-in-2 goal ratio in La Liga and the only realistic domestic alternative is Emile Ivanhoe Heskey?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 25, 2010 21:11:22 GMT
How come that every other player that we were linked with or said to be after 2 seasons ago are not good enough as we have now moved on, where as the wrist slashers are out in force because brum are looking like signing Zigic. Because none of the others have a 1-in-2 goal ratio in La Liga and the only realistic domestic alternative is Emile Ivanhoe Heskey? Pretty much!
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Post by mikeyb99 on May 25, 2010 21:14:31 GMT
Zigic in a stoke shirt would produce more goals than messi and rooney put together! Delap > Zigic = Goal Higgy > Zigic > Fuller = Goal Ethers > Zigic = Goal Shawcross > Zigic > Fuller = Goal in the words of an annoying meerkat....SIMPLES! ;D Yeah 'Simples', I mean we've seen exactly that with Crouch this season at Spurs. He's had quite a season, scoring 50 goals and heading-in every corner, cross and aimless punt up field. Oh wait ... PolPotter is right, it's Rikki Dadason all over again. This isn't Football Manager. Being 6'8'' doesn't guarantee you goals in the Prem, in the same way that pace doesn't - just ask Theo Walcott. We aren't automatically going to score more goals from Rory's ineffective long-throws - a lack of height has never been our problem, opponents (by and large) have just learned to defend them better. The same applies from corners. And an aimless Higgy punt up field is an aimless Higgy punt up field, whether it's Zigic or Mama up top. In fact, Zigic's lack of mobility might make him a weaker target man than a more mobile equivalent. Sure, height is a great attribute, but there are plenty of people talking up Zigic as if he's Pele. Reality check required. Zigic might be an improvement, but the gamble is too great with the price involved. It doesn't make an ounce of sense when a ready-made improvement is available for a fraction of the price in Heskey. If Brum want to risk an expensive Meirhoffer, fine. But I'd much rather see the proven Heskey.
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Post by Olgrligm on May 25, 2010 21:15:40 GMT
The concerning part of this is that apparently 2 years ago Valencia were too difficult to deal with and were being unreasonable with us over Zigic, but suddenly Birmingham have completed a deal with what appears to be relative ease. What's more concerning is that Zigic was a reasonable target who has gone for a relatively modest fee and we could probably have competed with Birmingham for his signature. We don't even appear to be on the radar, probably because we're chasing after Drogba to see if he fancies taking a pay cut and moving to Stoke.
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Post by northstokie on May 25, 2010 21:19:32 GMT
The concerning part of this is that apparently 2 years ago Valencia were too difficult to deal with and were being unreasonable with us over Zigic, but suddenly Birmingham have completed a deal with what appears to be relative ease. What's more concerning is that Zigic was a reasonable target who has gone for a relatively modest fee and we could probably have competed with Birmingham for his signature. We don't even appear to be on the radar, probably because we're chasing after Drogba to see if he fancies taking a pay cut and moving to Stoke. might be something to do with having just received 30 million odd euros for Villa and not needing to haggle on Zigic's fee anymore..
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 25, 2010 21:23:28 GMT
The concerning part of this is that apparently 2 years ago Valencia were too difficult to deal with and were being unreasonable with us over Zigic, but suddenly Birmingham have completed a deal with what appears to be relative ease. What's more concerning is that Zigic was a reasonable target who has gone for a relatively modest fee and we could probably have competed with Birmingham for his signature. We don't even appear to be on the radar, probably because we're chasing after Drogba to see if he fancies taking a pay cut and moving to Stoke. might be something to do with having just received 30 million odd euros for Villa and not needing to haggle on Zigic's fee anymore.. So they'd settle on a smaller fee because they sold Villa? Why would they do that? Surely they'd want as much money as the could possibly get?
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Post by mikeyb99 on May 25, 2010 21:30:30 GMT
Maybe TP is just interested in other targets now MD. He gets stick on here for not 'moving-on' quickly enough from failed targets, so perhaps he is now doing just that - moving-on.
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Post by jarhead on May 25, 2010 21:34:27 GMT
Yeh like Rob Hulse and Walters....! And this was the bloke that scoring more goals was a priority where we have to improve on for next season and thats with the inept wankstain that is Shitibe!!!
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Post by Mozzaa on May 25, 2010 21:34:31 GMT
This will be Stokies when it say's in that SSN Breaking News Tracker "Birmingham City have signed Nikola Zigic from Valencia in a £6m deal signing a 3 year contract"
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Post by FullerMagic on May 25, 2010 21:39:22 GMT
Maierhofer has scored his goals in the German 4th tier and the Austrian Publeague though.
Spanish pundits do seem to make a point of Z's apparent suitability to hoofball, as far as anyone can tell.
In Pulis terms, his lack of Prem experience and lack of English is a big problem. That's fair enough.
But Beattie and Kitson are both Prem-experienced and speak fluent English and look how they turned out!
The problem I have is there only seems to be THREE viable English-based target men in the equation - Heskey, Fletcher and Rob Hulse, assuming we aren't going to pull a Cole/Jones-shaped rabbit out of a big baseball cap.
One is Championship standard, one is being touted about at £6m after one decent season and one is a 32-year-old known (but rapidly fading) quantity who'd still cost £2-3m and £40-50k-a-week and only be of half-use to us for one season and offer zero resale.
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Post by GrandStokie on May 25, 2010 21:43:00 GMT
Nothing like showing a bit of ambition though Mozzaa eh. If Birmingham sign Zigic that easily then we failed miserably along the way.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 25, 2010 21:45:37 GMT
Maierhofer has scored his goals in the German 4th tier and the Austrian Publeague though. Spanish pundits do seem to make a point of Z's apparent suitability to hoofball, as far as anyone can tell. In Pulis terms, his lack of Prem experience and lack of English is a big problem. That's fair enough. But Beattie and Kitson are both Prem-experienced and speak fluent English and look how they turned out! The problem I have is there only seems to be THREE viable English-based target men in the equation - Heskey, Fletcher and Rob Hulse, assuming we aren't going to pull a Cole/Jones-shaped rabbit out of a big baseball cap. One is Championship standard, one is being touted about at £6m after one decent season and one is a 32-year-old known (but rapidly fading) quantity who'd still cost £2-3m and £40-50k-a-week and only be of half-use to us for one season and offer zero resale. Top post.
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