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Post by cobhamstokey on May 26, 2010 21:36:00 GMT
Don't get me wrong Zigic could well have been perfect for us but lets not forget he's unproven in the Premiership and hasn't been massively succesful in Spain bar one season. Yes he has great potential but he's not ours and could be a flop and a flop on a 4 year contract.
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Post by 4thMarch1972 on May 26, 2010 21:37:15 GMT
Morientes, Jardel, Kezman - just three examples of strikers with a great European pedigree who flopped massively in the Prem. £50K a week for 4 years is a gamble that Stoke City are not in a position to take. I think I'll start a new thread for this bloke - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_JankoYounger and would surely fall within our wage structure but just can't see TP taking a punt.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 26, 2010 21:42:20 GMT
Don't get me wrong Zigic could well have been perfect for us but lets not forget he's unproven in the Premiership and hasn't been massively succesful in Spain bar one season. Yes he has great potential but he's not ours and could be a flop and a flop on a 4 year contract. To be fair to him, he's never really failed either. Just got a lot of splinters from covering David Villa in a team with only one space for a central striker for a couple of years at Valencia. La Liga 06-07 12 in 32 (2796 mins) Santander 07-08 1 in 3 (500 mins) Valencia 08-09 13 in 20 (1783 mins) Santander 09-10 4 in 5 (556 mins) Valencia 30 in 60 starts Even this season, he got 6 goals in a meagre 11 starts in all competitions. Chuck in a frankly bonkers record in the awful Serbian league and an impressive International record, and his CV does seem to stand up for a £6m/£50,000 kind of striker
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 26, 2010 21:44:05 GMT
Don't get me wrong Zigic could well have been perfect for us but lets not forget he's unproven in the Premiership and hasn't been massively succesful in Spain bar one season. Yes he has great potential but he's not ours and could be a flop and a flop on a 4 year contract. To be fair to him, he's never really failed either. Just got a lot of splinters from covering David Villa in a team with only one space for a central striker for a couple of years at Valencia. La Liga 06-07 12 in 32 (2796 mins) Santander 07-08 1 in 3 (500 mins) Valencia 08-09 13 in 20 (1783 mins) Santander 09-10 4 in 5 (556 mins) Valencia 30 in 60 starts Even this season, he got 6 goals in a meagre 11 starts in all competitions. Stop bringing facts into the equation Grapey.
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Post by stokie25 on May 26, 2010 21:44:47 GMT
Im getting sick and tired of everybody not finding his gaffs on youtube, nor professing to know his physio who says 'his knees are fucked'
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Post by FullerMagic on May 26, 2010 21:50:14 GMT
Morientes, Jardel, Kezman - just three examples of strikers with a great European pedigree who flopped massively in the Prem. £50K a week for 4 years is a gamble that Stoke City are not in a position to take. I think I'll start a new thread for this bloke - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_JankoYounger and would surely fall within our wage structure but just can't see TP taking a punt. The Austrian league is absolute garbage though, isn't it? And he's 3rd top scorer in it this season behind 2 people I've never heard of
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Post by johnnysoul60 on May 26, 2010 23:14:09 GMT
I do admire Mcleish , he gets in there and signs his players early , I like that about him.
Not sure why we piss about as much as we do really , but we aint gonna change now.
I wonder if the experience of Tuncay Beattie and Kitson has made us more cautious, Zigic might do well or bomb I guess just depends on how he settles.
I guess we will look for players with a point to prove like Hulse and work with them in our system but still think we will be ok as long as we have a strong team spirit and a good defence
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Post by jarhead on May 27, 2010 6:20:21 GMT
You have to be in the prem at least 4 seasons before you can push on(pulis), but Brum thought sod that 12 months will do!!!
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Post by Northy on May 27, 2010 7:08:41 GMT
You have to be in the prem at least 4 seasons before you can push on(pulis), but Brum thought sod that 12 months will do!!! ;D Brum are like us, a solid defence, scrape out 1-0's but have more forwards in depth.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2010 8:41:32 GMT
He's crap (I hope)
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Post by Not_Nick_H on May 27, 2010 9:51:24 GMT
We just don't know how well Zigic will work out, but I have to admit it's a bit annoying every time I switch on SSN I see him doing some gratuitous PR opp or a page full of stats on him and think - "That could have been us in the limelight".
Time will tell....
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Post by lew86 on May 27, 2010 9:53:49 GMT
Break a leg lad.
Please.
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Post by mistersausage on Jun 3, 2010 16:16:49 GMT
get on the blower tone!!!! Nah - according to DV we are after better than him, even though according to Lou M we cant afford Heskeys wages Hahaaaa yeah ok .... We'll end up with Hes(Donk)ey ..... Well done Stoke. Fucked up again
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Post by stokelad84 on Jun 3, 2010 16:21:54 GMT
How many Premier League goals has he scores sausage??
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Post by SCFC92 on Jun 3, 2010 16:23:46 GMT
How many Premier League goals has he scores sausage?? If that was the case everyone went of noone would sign anyone from abroad! (Oh wait)
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Post by stokelad84 on Jun 3, 2010 16:27:21 GMT
Just because they are from baroad doesn't automatically mean they will be ace!
For every Didier Drogba there is a Juan Pablo Angel
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Post by SCFC92 on Jun 3, 2010 16:34:42 GMT
Just because they are from baroad doesn't automatically mean they will be ace! For every Didier Drogba there is a Juan Pablo Angel Juan Pablo Angel had quite a good couple of seasons with Villa around 03-06 I think you mean for every Drogba there is a Diego Arismendi. ;D
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Post by mistersausage on Jun 3, 2010 16:47:24 GMT
How many Premier League goals has he scores sausage?? Last I checked he hadn't played in the premier league I'm sure he'll do a bit better than Mama though, and he'll more than likely poke a couple in against us, which will serve us right. Still, we don't have to pay his wages. Why have a proven goalscorer when you have already got a red hot, net busting, 20 goal a season forward like big nice reliable mama?
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Post by stokelad84 on Jun 3, 2010 16:57:09 GMT
mama has never been a 20 goal a season forward duck.
maybe its about time you and others realised?
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Post by waitingforwaddo on Jun 3, 2010 17:09:48 GMT
He's never been much else either!
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Post by boothy on Jun 3, 2010 17:12:44 GMT
He's never been much else either! Do you ever stop?
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Post by mistersausage on Jun 3, 2010 17:27:32 GMT
I'm sure people will stop having a dig at mama this season when he bangs 20-30 goals in and attracts the likes of Barcelona And I'm meeting Nicole Kidman later to fill her chock full of man wee and looking like a painters radio. Happy days ;D
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Post by actongatestokie on Jun 13, 2010 15:55:11 GMT
First scouting report?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 13, 2010 15:56:03 GMT
He was wank in 1 game.
Heskey was good in 1 game.
Makes neither a wank/good player.
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Post by actongatestokie on Jun 13, 2010 15:57:02 GMT
Lighten up bayern, its a messageboard.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 13, 2010 15:58:29 GMT
I'm in a lighthearted mood but I'm also in a no bullshit mood after that cunt Green yesterday. ;D
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Post by stokelad84 on Jun 13, 2010 16:01:50 GMT
Who needs Zigic? I would prefer Ledley
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Post by Billy the kid on Jun 13, 2010 19:54:37 GMT
That is twice I have seen him now, and to be honest he has done nothing to prove that he can cut it week in week out in the prem.
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Post by PoisonedDonkey on Jun 13, 2010 20:01:23 GMT
He was horse shit today.
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