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Post by MrMagic on May 25, 2010 16:33:57 GMT
I thought Zigic club were supposed to be "very hard to deal with"????????? Another one missed. Never mind, we can always pod out £2m + on Heskey At least he has Premiership experience and he is only 33 after all.
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Post by coggy on May 25, 2010 16:34:57 GMT
fucking disgusting. grow some fucking balls pulis you bellend. or next time climb a mountain without a rope. a good season with brum and will be be looking at him for 15M+ the only reason we havnt jumped straight in for a 6ft 7 goalscoring target man is because he is not british based. fuck off pulis, fucking disgrace, sign the useless lump because we wont be signing top end "established" players, they cost 60k+ per week too. wank. ;D ;D
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Post by watcher on May 25, 2010 16:36:28 GMT
I thought Zigic club were supposed to be "very hard to deal with"????????? Another one missed. Never mind, we can always pod out £2m + on Heskey At least he has Premiership experience and he is only 33 after all. We only have davesviews say so about the hard to deal with.I doubt theres ever been any contact.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 25, 2010 16:42:21 GMT
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Post by actongatestokie on May 25, 2010 16:42:36 GMT
I remember similar euphoria surrounding Aruna Dindane. He went to Pompey and we all know the rest...
Figures of 6 and 7 million were mentioned last year. After a year in the Prem his value is now supposedly at 2.5M. Personally, I wouldn't pay him in washers.
As for Kenwyne Jones. He is allegedly on 60k+ at Sunderland already. He would not sign for a club like us for the same or less money so forget him. Really, stop torturing yourselves because he simply will not be a Stoke player any time soon.
Good luck to Brum for lashing 6M + god knows what in wages and signing on fees and bonuses on an unproven 29 year old.
We've already taken our risks, and failed, with the likes of Olofinjana, Tonge, Soares at al for a fraction of that fee - thank god.
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Post by watcher on May 25, 2010 16:48:24 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 25, 2010 16:52:32 GMT
I remember similar euphoria surrounding Aruna Dindane. He went to Pompey and we all know the rest...Figures of 6 and 7 million were mentioned last year. After a year in the Prem his value is now supposedly at 2.5M. Personally, I wouldn't pay him in washers. As for Kenwyne Jones. He is allegedly on 60k+ at Sunderland already. He would not sign for a club like us for the same or less money so forget him. Really, stop torturing yourselves because he simply will not be a Stoke player any time soon. Good luck to Brum for lashing 6M + god knows what in wages and signing on fees and bonuses on an unproven 29 year old. We've already taken our risks, and failed, with the likes of Olofinjana, Tonge, Soares at al for a fraction of that fee - thank god. Yeah, he outscored all of our strikers. And You've forgotten Kitson off the little list at the bottom. And Tuncay potentially. ;D
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Post by FullerMagic on May 25, 2010 16:56:10 GMT
To be fair, Dindane scored 10 in 23 games and has gone to the middle-east on ludicrous money after snubbing Wolves, Bolton and Blackburn.
He didn't have the record of Zigic, at least not in France where he also played a bit on the wing and had serious injury, but was seen as a potentially cheap gamble (especially after the injury) and a realistic kind of target for a relatively unattractive lower Premier League team which we definitely were in the winter of 2008
And Zigic's scoring record is top drawer. He's only unproven in the sense that he hasn't played in England. But if we're restricting ourselves to that market, we're maybe only looking at the uninspiring Heskey, Hulse and Steven Fletcher - unless we think we can surprise us all and grab Carroll, Jones, or Cole, which doesn't look at all likely.
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Post by mikeyb99 on May 25, 2010 16:58:49 GMT
Glad about this, Zigic is garbage IMO. Being a giant does not mean you are automatically a wonderful target man, or a great header of the ball. See Meirhoffer at Wolves. Zigic's scoring record at Racing was reasonable, but he's not managed to show any kind of form anywhere since.
He would have been an expensive risk, as Acton says, and at 29 years-old not worth it.
I will happily take the proven target man Heskey instead. Good player, good attitude, good work ethic, reasonable fee and wages I'd expect.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 25, 2010 17:02:04 GMT
Glad about this, Zigic is garbage IMO. Being a giant does not mean you are automatically a wonderful target man, or a great header of the ball. See Meirhoffer at Wolves. Zigic's scoring record at Racing was reasonable, but he's not managed to show any kind of form anywhere since. He would have been an expensive risk, as Acton says, and at 29 years-old not worth it. I will happily take the proven target man Heskey instead. Good player, good attitude, good work ethic, reasonable fee and wages I'd expect. That's becuase he hasn't played, Mikey. They play one up front and he was behind some fella called Villa ;D He's still scored 9 goals in 1500 minutes on the pitch this season, at an average of a goal every 170 minutes. Couple that with his 08-09 record of 13 in 19 in La Liga, and it's a bit harsh to describe a far better than 1-in-2 record as lacking form.
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Post by pasa on May 25, 2010 17:02:47 GMT
I remember similar euphoria surrounding Aruna Dindane. He went to Pompey and we all know the rest... Figures of 6 and 7 million were mentioned last year. After a year in the Prem his value is now supposedly at 2.5M. Personally, I wouldn't pay him in washers. As for Kenwyne Jones. He is allegedly on 60k+ at Sunderland already. He would not sign for a club like us for the same or less money so forget him. Really, stop torturing yourselves because he simply will not be a Stoke player any time soon. Good luck to Brum for lashing 6M + god knows what in wages and signing on fees and bonuses on an unproven 29 year old. We've already taken our risks, and failed, with the likes of Olofinjana, Tonge, Soares at al for a fraction of that fee - thank god. dont' you mean... " good luck to alex mccleish for having the bottle Good to lash 6M + god knows what in wages and signing on fees and bonuses on an unproven 29 year old. " we've taken our risk"s" and failed you say? who? arisfuckingmendi? tonge, soares, olofinjana, they wernt risks, we knew we were buying championship players, so wheres the risk? TONY PULIS WILL NOT TAKE THIS CLUB ANY FURTHER UNTIL HE HAS THE BOTTLE TO OPEN HIS VERY NARROW MIND ON THE ORIGIN OF HIS PLAYERS. IN THE MEAN TIME HE WILL CONTINUE TO SPUNK GOOD MONEY ON TRIED AND TESTED SHIT. we're on 40M now and counting, despite this fuller is our only goal threat from open play. all this bollocks about players being unproven is 100% bollocks, the premiership these days is vastly over-rated, outside the top 6 no-one is much better than the rest. so to say players are unproven in the premiership is horseshit and just an excuse to protect mr " i only buy british beef" pulis. arismendi playing south american football is on a totally different scale of risk, south americans are known for a totally different style and pace of game, zigic has played and scored goals in laliga, european compitition and at international level, yet he is "unproven" bollocks.
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Post by actongatestokie on May 25, 2010 17:02:48 GMT
How fair is that? I'm halfway through a complete assassination of Dindane, and you throw in a completely relevant goalscoring record. At least put down his goals/chance ratio to even it out a bit. *swines the lot of you* Take a breath pasa for gods sake! Lets hope this McLeish risk is better than his last foreign striker import, Christian "3 in 30 just like Mama" Benitez!
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Post by pasa on May 25, 2010 17:06:00 GMT
Glad about this, Zigic is garbage IMO. Being a giant does not mean you are automatically a wonderful target man, or a great header of the ball. See Meirhoffer at Wolves. Zigic's scoring record at Racing was reasonable, but he's not managed to show any kind of form anywhere since. He would have been an expensive risk, as Acton says, and at 29 years-old not worth it. I will happily take the proven target man Heskey instead. Good player, good attitude, good work ethic, reasonable fee and wages I'd expect. That's becuase he hasn't played, Mikey. They play one up front and he was behind some fella called Villa ;D He's still scored 9 goals in 1500 minutes on the pitch this season, at an average of a goal every 170 minutes. Couple that with his 08-09 record of 13 in 19 in La Liga, and it's a bit harsh to describe a far better than 1-in-2 record as lacking form. how can you compare zigic to that wolves player, 2 totally different players. how can you say that just because maijerhoffer hasnt done it, zigic won't or isnt good enough, thats bollocks aswell.
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Post by rigsby on May 25, 2010 17:07:14 GMT
Birmingham will get relegated next season... Zigic will then want/have to be sold.... Then we will buy him at a cut price.... Obviously
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Post by pasa on May 25, 2010 17:09:02 GMT
Birmingham will get relegated next season... Zigic will then want/have to be sold.... Then we will buy him at a cut price.... Obviously yeah they are bound to get relegated when you hear the names they are being linked with to add to a an allready solid team.
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Post by ryouonthistrain on May 25, 2010 17:15:25 GMT
Such a bad manager! i remember the forum the day we signed Tuncay and Huth! i think people forgot where we have come from.wait and see and at the end of the transfer window then have a whinge! not many people moan about Deano now ( and he was gash until he got used to our system which took time).Stoke wasn't built in a day!
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Post by northstokie on May 25, 2010 17:15:29 GMT
That's becuase he hasn't played, Mikey. They play one up front and he was behind some fella called Villa ;D He's still scored 9 goals in 1500 minutes on the pitch this season, at an average of a goal every 170 minutes. Couple that with his 08-09 record of 13 in 19 in La Liga, and it's a bit harsh to describe a far better than 1-in-2 record as lacking form. how can you compare zigic to that wolves player, 2 totally different players. how can you say that just because maijerhoffer hasnt done it, zigic won't or isnt good enough, thats bollocks aswell. Not that insane a comparison, if Wiki is to be believed he scored every other game for Bayern Munich and then better at Rapid Vienna...and he is younger than Zigic
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Post by northstokie on May 25, 2010 17:16:34 GMT
Birmingham will get relegated next season... Zigic will then want/have to be sold.... Then we will buy him at a cut price.... Obviously yeah they are bound to get relegated when you hear the names they are being linked with to add to a an allready solid team. So who have they signed to make you so mad? Foster? We even got money from that deal and he has been poor every game he has played...
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Post by mikeyb99 on May 25, 2010 17:17:45 GMT
There's a cult of personality around Zigic, like there is about every giant. Meirhoffer had it, and that 6'8'' scoring sensation in the Swiss league that we were linked with had it. Zigic is part of the trend. He's unproven because he hasn't done anything - anything at all at Valencia - he's not merely unproven in the Prem, but I would suggest he has serious questions to answer in La Liga too. At £6m, and £40k p/w+ wages, I would say we should steer well clear. Jan Koller remains the only giant to be actually any good, with Crouch edging just behind.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 25, 2010 17:18:48 GMT
how can you compare zigic to that wolves player, 2 totally different players. how can you say that just because maijerhoffer hasnt done it, zigic won't or isnt good enough, thats bollocks aswell. Not that insane a comparison, if Wiki is to be believed he scored every other game for Bayern Munich and then better at Rapid Vienna...and he is younger than Zigic That was Bayern Munich B in the German equivalent of League 2 though. And the Austrian league is one of the weakest in Europe. The Z-Man has a good international record and a very respectable record in La Liga, which is supposedly one of the best 2 leagues in the world
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Post by northstokie on May 25, 2010 17:23:05 GMT
Not that insane a comparison, if Wiki is to be believed he scored every other game for Bayern Munich and then better at Rapid Vienna...and he is younger than Zigic That was Bayern Munich B in the German equivalent of League 2 though. And the Austrian league is one of the weakest in Europe. The Z-Man has a good international record and a very respectable record in La Liga, which is supposedly one of the best 2 leagues in the world indeed it was Fm, just noticed... That said there have been plenty of high profile Spanish players arriving with big reputations and failing... Jose Antonio Reyes Xisco (Newcastle) Luque (newcastle) Morientes (Liverpool) - and he had scored nearly 1 in 2 for Real Madrid!
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 25, 2010 17:24:16 GMT
There's a cult of personality around Zigic, like there is about every giant. Meirhoffer had it, and that 6'8'' scoring sensation in the Swiss league that we were linked with had it. Zigic is part of the trend. He's unproven because he hasn't done anything - anything at all at Valencia - he's not merely unproven in the Prem, but I would suggest he has serious questions to answer in La Liga too. At £6m, and £40k p/w+ wages, I would say we should steer well clear. Jan Koller remains the only giant to be actually any good, with Crouch edging just behind. In what way does he have questions to be answered in La Liga?
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Post by ryouonthistrain on May 25, 2010 17:29:41 GMT
The Stoke City cult of Zigic is in full effect! are people bored already!
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2010 17:32:44 GMT
pasa you talk absolute crap let the manager manage and judge him when the August deadline ends you tool.
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Post by pasa on May 25, 2010 17:33:44 GMT
how anybody can say zigic is untested then go on to say heskey would be a good signing in the same breath is on drugs.
yep, heskeys tested, he's also shit.
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Post by pasa on May 25, 2010 17:35:07 GMT
pasa you talk absolute crap let the manager manage and judge him when the August deadline ends you tool. fuck off muttley, i'll say what the fuck i want.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2010 17:37:06 GMT
Typical reaction from yourself just as when you were tpbarmyarmy you'll never change enjoy your rest.
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Post by mrpickles on May 25, 2010 17:39:53 GMT
It's just a stepping stone lads. Tone is bound to offer £15m for him after a season of premiership football. Be patient
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Post by pasa on May 25, 2010 17:42:58 GMT
Typical reaction from yourself just as when you were tpbarmyarmy you'll never change enjoy your rest. all you ever do is come on to tell people to shut up. your contribution is awesome. you linger around me like a bad smell saying roughly the same thing.
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Post by northstokie on May 25, 2010 17:46:03 GMT
Typical reaction from yourself just as when you were tpbarmyarmy you'll never change enjoy your rest. all you ever do is come on to tell people to shut up. your contribution is awesome. you linger around me like a bad smell saying roughly the same thing. fucking disgusting. grow some fucking balls pulis you bellend. or next time climb a mountain without a rope. a good season with brum and will be be looking at him for 15M+ the only reason we havnt jumped straight in for a 6ft 7 goalscoring target man is because he is not british based. fuck off pulis, fucking disgrace, sign the useless lump because we wont be signing top end "established" players, they cost 60k+ per week too. wank. Oh the irony...
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