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Apr 12, 2024 20:54:01 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 12, 2024 20:54:01 GMT
Croydon isn’t in London remember 🤔 Apparently I have an obsession with it too. I actually said, that you seem to have a personal issue specifically with Croydon, why don't you think that you do?
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Israel
Apr 12, 2024 20:50:13 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 12, 2024 20:50:13 GMT
Every word is completely on point, especially the main tenet of his argument, that being, that "peace cannot come from within Israel."
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 12, 2024 16:17:56 GMT
He must be saying this for a bet surely?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 12, 2024 16:07:14 GMT
Yes I know, that's why I answered your question and then developed the answer to include something about the specific person being discussed.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 12, 2024 16:00:18 GMT
Isn’t Tommy Robinson a millionaire that lives in Spain? Not exactly my definition of a working class man either. Do you have to be working class to care about the working class? No you don't but you have to genuinely care about the working class. Yaxley-Lennon couldn't give a shit about the working class ... resistinghate.org/tommy-robinsons-working-class-con-trick/
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 12, 2024 13:15:23 GMT
Whilst I deeply hope that things can be appeased with Iran, Cameron is surely taking the piss here.
It is ISRAEL who bombed the Iranian embassy in an attempt to widen the conflict and drag other nations into the war for Pete's sake.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 12, 2024 12:36:52 GMT
No doubt, she is probably guilty of several crimes but there isn't a shred of doubt that she blatantly lied to MP's on the Select Comittee ...
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Israel
Apr 12, 2024 7:16:46 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 12, 2024 7:16:46 GMT
If you believed that DDN was from a right wing perspective, would you have watched it then? The thing is knype, the video wouldn't even exist if you were relying on a right wing outlet to produce it. And as such, you're only ever going to develop an extremely jaundiced view of the world. Ditto Well it's not really mate. On twitter I follow lots of people I disagree with and in general, I also try to read as many differing view points as possible, always have done.
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Israel
Apr 12, 2024 0:31:41 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 12, 2024 0:31:41 GMT
Every single word he says is absolutely on point. Krishnan knows it as well.
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London
Apr 11, 2024 21:52:34 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 11, 2024 21:52:34 GMT
So the real issue here isn't the unacceptable behaviour, it's the person that posted it. If someone else has posted it, say someone you and Ely consider credible, would it be fair game for debate without referencing Nov-23? Like me Exactly.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 11, 2024 21:51:54 GMT
I think you may have missed the connection ... The person who was initially so outraged by the events of last night, is also a bit of a Tommy Robinson fan boy and yet when Yaxley-Lennon and his band of merry men were putting coppers in hospital a few weeks ago, not a peep of outrage was heard from those quarters. So the real issue here isn't the unacceptable behaviour, it's the person that posted it. If someone else has posted it, say someone you and Ely consider credible, would it be fair game for debate without referencing Nov-23? I'm not sure I understand what you are asking. However I think the answer might be ... just pointing out the hypocrisy.
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London
Apr 11, 2024 21:47:13 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 11, 2024 21:47:13 GMT
You've posted more tweets by him than anybody else on here. I'm sure the same goes for Paul Golding and Britain First too. You’ll find I’ve posted one tweet by Tommy Robinson if you look back through my posting history. As for the others yes I’ve posted quite a few because like many other folk on this country I agree with a lot of what they say.You don’t and that’s your prerogative Exactly mate, completely agree, I didn't see this post until after I replied to Badge above.
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London
Apr 11, 2024 21:45:52 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 11, 2024 21:45:52 GMT
You've posted more tweets by him than anybody else on here. I'm sure the same goes for Paul Golding and Britain First too. Like most others. I’m sure Crouchie is simply making a point. Calling him a Tommy Robinson fan boy isn’t fair. But as usual, you take that little bit you want and run away with it. Like a Jack Russell who’s nicked a sausage and thinks he can get the rest out of the fridge every time the door opens I'm a fan of lots of people who inspire me politically, why shouldn't I be?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 11, 2024 21:40:00 GMT
Tommy Robinson fan boy for starters You've posted more tweets by him than anybody else on here. I'm sure the same goes for Paul Golding and Britain First too.
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London
Apr 11, 2024 21:34:41 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 11, 2024 21:34:41 GMT
I think you may have missed the connection ... The person who was initially so outraged by the events of last night, is also a bit of a Tommy Robinson fan boy and yet when Yaxley-Lennon and his band of merry men were putting coppers in hospital a few weeks ago, not a peep of outrage was heard from those quarters. I thought you were better than that mate Which bit isn't true?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 11, 2024 21:29:36 GMT
If that's where the line is drawn there's very few discussions on here that pass muster 😀 Lets just agree that any incidents of public disorder need to be benchmarked against Remembrance Day 2023 before it's okay to be 'outraged' enough to post about them on here. I think you may have missed the connection ... The person who was initially so outraged by the events of last night, is also a bit of a Tommy Robinson fan boy and yet when Yaxley-Lennon and his band of merry men were putting coppers in hospital a few weeks ago, not a peep of outrage was heard from those quarters.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 11, 2024 21:15:41 GMT
Was going to watch, not heard of double down news, had a look, saw it was set up as a left wing perspective and switched it off If you believed that DDN was from a right wing perspective, would you have watched it then? The thing is knype, the video wouldn't even exist if you were relying on a right wing outlet to produce it. And as such, you're only ever going to develop an extremely jaundiced view of the world.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 11, 2024 20:42:48 GMT
When you're excusing one shit thing because it's not quite as shit as another very specific thing, yes. I'm not excusing anything whatsoever, I'm just trying to understand why there's an outcry in certain quarters over an occurrence in London whereas there wasn't that outcry when there was far more damage, arrests and injuries during another occurrence. I think Badge has already explained that one above mate. ☝️
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London
Apr 11, 2024 20:38:16 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 11, 2024 20:38:16 GMT
Whoosh what? So you're saying that the police did indeed get it wrong then? HOW did they get it wrong, WHAT should they have done differently? Again, I'll repeat what I've said, do you think they would have treated football fans in the same way with what they encountered last night ? I've got no idea mate, they might have done lots of times already, how on earth I'm supposed to know what has happened on every occasion. If the police had of handled it in exactly the same way as they did last night, at a football match last Saturday and there were zero injuries and a minor arrest, would you be criticising them for their tactics at that specific match?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 11, 2024 20:27:52 GMT
So you're suggesting that the police started it? Stop denying this country is being turned into a hell hole by people not native to the country. It’s making you and others look very silly and naive Ah right, so that's what this thread is ACTUALLY about, silly me for not realising ... 🤦♂️
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 11, 2024 20:24:38 GMT
I could understand your point, if, as a result of the 'two tier' policing there had been a load of people injured, lots of arrests and property damaged but there wasn't, erm ... at all. The police got it completely right, didn't they? Whoosh, straight over your head. Take off your blindfold Paul Whoosh what? So you're saying that the police did indeed get it wrong then? HOW did they get it wrong, WHAT should they have done differently?
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London
Apr 11, 2024 20:23:03 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 11, 2024 20:23:03 GMT
Were you this outraged when Tommy and the proud boys tried to ruin remembrance day? I aren’t defending Robinson but it was retaliatory to violence him and his ilk had seen. Not surprisingly the police were out in force that day So you're suggesting that the police started it?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 11, 2024 20:20:45 GMT
Why did they handle it that way? I've just told you ... because that's how they believed was the appropriate way to handle it and it worked, didn't it? Why are you being critical of the police, when they achieved a positive outcome? I'm being critical as you cannot have 2 tier policing, surely you agree with that? I could understand your point, if, as a result of the 'two tier' policing there had been a load of people injured, lots of arrests and property damaged but there wasn't, erm ... at all. The police got it completely right, didn't they?
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London
Apr 11, 2024 20:12:17 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 11, 2024 20:12:17 GMT
No I don't know exactly what you mean at all knype. The police handled the situation in a way that they believed was appropriate and as a result, nobody got hurt and a 15 year old kid got arrested for a public order offence. Seems like they got their tactics pretty much spot on, well done to the police. Why are you throwing your toys out of the pram about how they handled it? Why did they handle it that way? Read my post again, if football supporters are on buildings and ignoring orders like last night, do you think the police would have behaved in the same way? Why did they handle it that way? I've just told you ... because that's how they believed was the appropriate way to handle it and it worked, didn't it? Why are you being critical of the police, when they achieved a positive outcome?
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Apr 11, 2024 20:05:08 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 11, 2024 20:05:08 GMT
What do you mean by two tier policing knype, that the police deliberately provoked Tommy's lot, so that two of their colleagues ended up in hospital and a 100 peaceful 'patriots' as a result, ended up getting arrested but on the other hand, the police didn't do any provoking last night, hence why none of the public or the police got injured? 😁 You know exactly what I mean, if that had of been football supporters last night doing what they were doing there would have been a different approach to how they were handled by the police. The TSG would have been out, groups kettled and a more hand s onapproach to anyone not doing what was being asked of them No I don't know exactly what you mean at all knype. The police handled the situation in a way that they believed was appropriate and as a result, nobody got hurt and a 15 year old kid got arrested for a public order offence. Seems like they got their tactics pretty much spot on, well done to the police. Why are you throwing your toys out of the pram about how they handled it?
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London
Apr 11, 2024 19:54:59 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 11, 2024 19:54:59 GMT
There were no police injured and no members of the public were injured, a single 15 year old boy was arrested for a public order offense. Yet Farage went on GB News to describe the incident as a "complete breakdown of law and order on London's streets!" When Tommy Robinson and his band of merry men rucked up at the Centotaph a few weeks ago, there were over a 100 arrests, 2 policeman ended up in hospital and a knife and cosh were confiscated amongst other weapons. However this lot are apparently seen as partiots in some quarters ...
Is that maybe because different events get different policing? 2 tier policing is all the rage now What do you mean by two tier policing knype, that the police deliberately provoked Tommy's lot, so that two of their colleagues ended up in hospital and a 100 peaceful 'patriots' as a result, ended up getting arrested but on the other hand, the police didn't do any provoking last night, hence why none of the public or the police got injured? 😁
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 11, 2024 18:49:18 GMT
What will be the point of continuing? They're already on their arses in terms of advertising revenue and the Tories are their biggest customer. And besides they'll serve absolutely no purpose whatsoever to their owners who prop it up, if the Tories aren't in power. It’s not going away mate, ya dreaming😉 Not dreaming mate, really couldn't give a toss if they do or they don't, just being realistic ...
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 11, 2024 18:37:37 GMT
I very much doubt that GB News will! 🤭 How come? What will be the point of continuing? They're already on their arses in terms of advertising revenue and the Tories are their biggest customer. And besides they'll serve absolutely no purpose whatsoever to their owners who prop it up, if the Tories aren't in power.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 11, 2024 18:30:09 GMT
Will this thread continue after the general election? I very much doubt that GB News will! 🤭
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 11, 2024 18:17:15 GMT
If you've got quarter of an hour, please watch ...
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