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Post by LGH87 on Dec 4, 2023 14:57:04 GMT
Careful what you wish for here. Cannot deny his reign has been an unmitigating disaster but its their funds so they must be gutted also. If they get the hump and pull the pounds plug. Were fooked cimpletely. I've held this view previously. However, he's so bad at running the club I'm now thinking we'd be better off with someone poorer who actually has a plan and an idea. The current incumbent clearly has neither. You don't need bags of cash to get promoted out of this league. You just need a club with a progressive outlook, has succession planning and a group of staff and players that all buy in to the ethos. Luton Town are now making a fist of staying up in the Prem on probably a tenth of our budget, if not less.
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 4, 2023 14:54:41 GMT
New manager steadily improving them game by game, no away win yet this season with 1 draw and 8 defeats.
This only ends one way I'm afraid chaps.
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 4, 2023 14:50:17 GMT
Brentford, Bournemouth, Fulham, Burnley, Wolves, Forest, Ipswich, Sunderland to name a few. Having a few Wolves supporting friends, I think they would be surprised to see their owners on your list. The general view down there seems to be that their owners are selling everything that isn't screwed to the ground to try and recoup their outlay as they are now much, much poorer than when they brought the club. Plus. Qualifying for the Champions League wasn't the stroll in the park they seemed to believe. It isn't just the fans down there who are totally deluded. Wolves maybe not a great example now but have been cemented in the Prem the whole time we've been fucking around in the bottom half of the championship.
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 4, 2023 14:27:21 GMT
Why don't you ever mention any of the many, many clubs who are now reaping the success of new owners March? Including the club you profess that AN turned the fortunes around for. (who in reality he took a championship ready squad that he didn't assemble, up through the play offs) You're not the only one mind, there's many who weirdly believe that only the Coates can run this club. It's bizarre, almost cult-like behaviour. Such as? The only cult is the ridiculous, illogical one that thinks we would be better off without the Coates family. Brentford, Bournemouth, Fulham, Burnley, Wolves, Forest, Ipswich, Sunderland to name a few.
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 4, 2023 13:15:38 GMT
Nice doff capping. See you in Division 1. At least we will be solvent. Look at clubs of similar stature whose local owners have gone - Bolton, Wigan, Reading, etc. We have no divine right to Championship football or even League football. Why don't you ever mention any of the many, many clubs who are now reaping the success of new owners March? Including the club you profess that AN turned the fortunes around for. (who in reality he took a championship ready squad that he didn't assemble, up through the play offs) You're not the only one mind, there's many who weirdly believe that only the Coates can run this club. It's bizarre, almost cult-like behaviour.
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 4, 2023 11:14:42 GMT
We allowed the manager to pick the technical director. Lets just think about that for a second and ask ourselves at what other football club does that happen? Exactly mate and not just doing it once and it failing but doing it over and over again. I raise you another question mate...How many people in the world do something that has failed over and over again and expect it to eventually work? John Coates genuinely believe he's a football person and whilst he does this club will do nothing. Except maybe find itself in the third tier again.
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 4, 2023 10:22:04 GMT
We allowed the manager to pick the technical director.
Lets just think about that for a second and ask ourselves at what other football club does that happen?
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 4, 2023 10:10:57 GMT
I’m happier they have just started getting results. I’d be very fearful if they hadn’t won for ages. That being said, our team have no confidence, no balls, no interest and no idea what to do so it’s going to be interesting for sure….maybe more so from a neutral point of view. If it’s a loss then the positive will be another game closer to him being gone. They've not won away from home yet.
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 4, 2023 9:36:19 GMT
Leaves Dean Smith as the clear and obvious Coates choice then. I'd be wary about going for anyone who'd been chased out of 2 jobs in such quick succession at Norwich and Leicester. He's not the sparkplug, or profile, we need, is he? Coates has got it in him to think outside the box as we saw with the QSF chase, his desire to get Jokanovic, and then his hiring of Jones. You could even argue MON wasn't a dull, out-of-the-box appointment, with his only league experience in the Scottish lower leagues True but we never got QSF or Jokanovic and although on the face of it MON's experience was different, he was very much in the same mould as the rest of them. I've just convinced myself it'll be Smith or Parker. JC may not be able to resist Parker's profile and promotions.
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 4, 2023 9:21:43 GMT
Percy joining the chorus saying Wilder is a strong contender to replace Heckingbottom, so that'd be him off the board. ---- Chris Wilder, the former United manager, is emerging as a strong contender to replace Heckingbottom and make his return to Bramall Lane. Leaves Dean Smith as the clear and obvious Coates choice then.
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 4, 2023 8:29:47 GMT
Sacked by midday or in charge for Saturday. If he’s given the Sheff Wed and Swansea home games 4 points have to be an absolute minimum…… I hate this notion of they have to win the next game or get x points from next 2/3. What happens when they do that, then lose the next 5. You're just wasting time on a busted flush. Get him fucking gone.
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 4, 2023 7:27:21 GMT
Next 6 fixtures, Sheffield w, H Swansea, H West brom, A Millwall, H Birmingham, A Watford, A Prediction for total points in these games. We have to think he will be here for the forseable so..... scary thought. What we thinking 18 juicy points up for grabs! We'll beat Swansea at home and lose the rest. 3 points.
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 3, 2023 16:26:19 GMT
If Ipswich can end up with brilliant owners, then why can’t we? Why do all the Coates rimmers have to make out that the only alternative is to end up like a Reading? Its such a bizarre take, it’s like they’ve been brainwashed. Doing very well atm, but early days. They’re light years ahead of us already and they only bought the club a couple of years ago. They aren’t the only example though, there’s loads where new owners have come in and turned clubs around. Yet the cult of Coates clan will only have you believe we’ll end up in league 2 ground sharing with the vale😂
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 3, 2023 16:16:20 GMT
If Ipswich can end up with brilliant owners, then why can’t we?
Why do all the Coates rimmers have to make out that the only alternative is to end up like a Reading?
Its such a bizarre take, it’s like they’ve been brainwashed.
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 3, 2023 16:12:43 GMT
At our peril. Name another club of our size that’s been backed financially like Stoke. Since relegation they have employed several managers to get us back up to where Bet365 are desperate for us to be. Every manager employed has been backed to the hilt to succeed. Even when there was no cash we’ve managed to get some of the best young talent on loan from other clubs ( how many are now playing premier or being successful in the championship) They’ve head hunted the managers they chose from clubs no matter the cost. Obviously the choice of managers haven’t worked out for whatever reason but I don’t believe that’s the Coates family’s fault . Just getting a continental manager doesn’t guarantee anything. The point is if the Coates family keep getting abused by Stoke supporters they could walk away. That would be terrible. Not in the next hundred years will we have owners more able and willing to get us successful. Anyone over 40 yoa must know this. The younger supporters probably think there are people cuing up to run our club. This is not so. We are all frustrated but let’s lay the blame where it belongs. If you don’t agree fine, state your case . Why am I wrong? The blame lies solely with them. They've mismanaged the club to the extent that it's that laden with debt that it's practically unsellable. They also steadfastly refuse to put in place the structures and processes required for a football club such as this to be successful in the modern era, instead putting all their hopes on appointing a manager who will oversee everything and drive progress. It worked with Pulis yes, but that was 15 years ago and the football environment has changed beyond recognition since then. The last 7 years of failure is evidence that they simply don't know how to run the club and are too blinkered or stubborn to admit that they need help. Until they alter their ways (or fuck off and let someone else have a go) absolutely nothing will change. Who is it that you blame might I ask? Let me guess, those dastardly, ungrateful fans... Absolutely this. People think we should be grateful for the ten years in the prem. if they had been any good at running the club we’d still be there. Instead they appointed Paul fucking Lambert to keep us up.
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 2, 2023 18:23:00 GMT
I honestly want someone I’ve never heard of.
They may end up crap but at least we won’t know they’re going to be crap when they’re appointed.
I defo don’t want another name off the conveyor belt like Dean Smith or Chris Wilder
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 1, 2023 12:06:16 GMT
thats fine but we should sack manager on his failings here not because another club is sacking their manager I think the original point was more to do with another team acting on an underperforming manager whilst we sit around and continue to do nothing. Not that we should sack him because Sunderland might sack Mowbray. 👏👏 at least someone gets it haha
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 1, 2023 12:02:59 GMT
If had employed Mowbray instead of AN there would have been a riot. I didn't see much objection for AN when we where trying get him? Funny how we're all wise after the event! AGAIN! Nobody has called for Mowbray to be our manager😂. Quite the opposite.
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 30, 2023 15:22:51 GMT
I'm starting to think that March is the account the club issue to the manager to use on here.
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 30, 2023 15:18:34 GMT
I'd be surprised. Don't know what more Sunderland can expect - they're a good side at this level now who'll be right in the play-off mix. It'd be great to be as well-positioned for the future as them, with an actual identity and playing style. If you look at the Champ points won since the week Neil and Mowbray took charge, you can see which club is going the right way Boro 96 WBA 91 Cov 91 Sund 87 Bburn 85 PNE 83 Swans 81 Millwall 81 Watford 78Hull 77 BristC 76 Norwich 75 Bham 70 Cardiff 68Stoke 67 Hudds 65 QPR 55 Rotherham 53Managerial changes at all under-performing clubs with one very notable exception. www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/jahrestabelle/wettbewerb/GB2They're 4th in the calendar year table too. Boro and WBA sitting top, managed by the two men I and many other's named as our no.1 targets. I could honestly cry when I think back to those two being available and we went all guns blazing for Alex Neil instead.
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 30, 2023 15:14:53 GMT
Mowbray out, AN back to Sunderland. Everyone wins. if only!
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 30, 2023 15:13:34 GMT
If Mowbray is sacked before Alex Neil, we really do need to question what the club's ambitions are moving forwards. AN should be sacked regardless what Sunderland do re Mowbray is not a factor for us in anyway un less we want Mowbray as our manager It would amplify the fact we're given a man who is clearly not capable of achieving results at this football club much longer than we should. If Sunderland can reach the play offs and then sack their manager, all whilst still being above us in the league, whilst we just trundle along getting beat every week and being wank, then there's something inherently wrong at the top.
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 30, 2023 15:02:44 GMT
If Mowbray is sacked before Alex Neil, we really do need to question what the club's ambitions are moving forwards.
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 30, 2023 11:51:51 GMT
Angela Smith really needs to highlight this home record at the QPR presser. Could anyone that knows her please request she does? isn’t she on here?? Some robust journalism is needed rather than the kiss arse bull we’re getting. I've spoken to Ange, if she manages to asks the questions she wants to, today's presser could be quite good viewing.
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 30, 2023 9:59:57 GMT
The likes of Sunderland and Ipswich going to league one and coming up and going straight past us like we're not even there is utterly depressing.
They're also living, breathing proof that there could be life after the Coates which a lot on here struggle to believe and automatically think any other owners would just strip the club down.
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 30, 2023 9:42:40 GMT
He’s been left behind by younger more progressive and proactive managers (I know he’s younger than he looks). It’s time to stop fucking about with these turgid dinosaurs and get someone in with the enthusiasm to build an identity for the team and club It’s the way the owners and a big chunk of the fan base see the game. They still think the turgid dross can be successful despite all the evidence. Progressive is a dirty word to them they want defensive attritional football, they live in a time warp. Pretty much like the city on a whole.
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 30, 2023 7:34:13 GMT
It’s embarrassing this poll, we didn’t play that bad pre sending off. Like I said before, if we beat Plymouth and Sheffield we’d, there will be people discussing the playoffs. Neil’s hands are tied until he brings Travers back 18 wins in 58 league games and manager out poll is embarrassing. The only thing embarrassing is this complete charlatan's record in charge of this football club.
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 29, 2023 15:02:22 GMT
I think a lot of it is about culture and creating a team spirit with a strong spine. When you look at the likes of Ipswich Southampton Leeds West brom Leicester they all have a solid spine with a manager who has a defined way of playing and each player knows exactly what they're doing. Look at us we've got a spine like the dog and duck and a manager who's playing players not in form and players who can't create a sausage and then wonder why we can't score goals with players like gayle leading the line. All absolute shocking. I think Alex has actually done some good work getting rid of the dead wood but he's doing no help playing absolute shithouses like Johnson when you've got players twice as good as him warming the bench or not even in the squad. Sidibe has looked quality when he's played and can't even find himself a place on the bench. Nail on head. You don't even need to have superstars or big name players in this league. Look at Ipswich, none of their players are household names and they're so far ahead of us it's borderline ridiculous. A strong spine, some strength, some pace and players that can last 90 mins in this league is all you really need. Add a semi competent finisher or two to that mix and you'll probably win the league.
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 29, 2023 13:08:52 GMT
He is not going anywhere. 8 points clear of relegation and 9 short of the play offs. We are destined for a mid-table finish so there will be no pressure for him to be sacked unless we get sucked towards the bottom three. The owners are going to give AN a prolonged period of time because they see this is a long term plan. I guess there argument would be that we are only a couple of wins away from being thrust back into play off contention due to how tight this league is. I thought this too but if he loses the fans any more than he already has, the board will be forced to act.
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 29, 2023 11:57:21 GMT
Can anyone remember the twitter handle for his brother, he was tweeting a lot about the deal on deadline day. I'm going to message him, see if he will divulge what's going on. Didn't exactly seem shy beforehand so he might be willing to talk. This guy? twitter.com/237APTSeems he was at the game in the away last night.
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