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Post by southwalesstokie on Feb 13, 2008 23:53:24 GMT
Just seen a debate on another thread over whether we are North West or Midlands and it got me thinking.
To all those born in Stoke and consider themselves Stokies, do you consider yourself a northerner or a midlander?
Being towards the South of Britain and going to uni with loads of dirty southern monkeys I consider myself full Northerner, specially cause of the accent. Discuss.
SWS
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Post by mumf14 on Feb 13, 2008 23:56:33 GMT
Theres nothing to discuss...We are Midlands people.
Cheshire is the start of the north sector ....and then there's the Southerners...Rugby south..!
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Post by DansViews on Feb 13, 2008 23:58:33 GMT
ive never resally considered myself anything, just a stokie
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Feb 14, 2008 0:02:05 GMT
Agree with BEB.
Stokie and proud - end of.
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Post by Premiership Titanic Captain on Feb 14, 2008 0:02:37 GMT
We are Stokies first and foremost.
If we are anything else though, I would say we are Northerners. We don't sound like midlanders, our accents are pretty much close to a scouse/manc mix with our own unique slang and pronunciation.
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Post by RAF on Feb 14, 2008 0:03:11 GMT
Typical from mumf.
Personally I have always watched 'LOOK NORTHWEST' on telly , I certainly don't want to be dragged in with Wolves or Brom or Wist Brizil.
H
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Post by mermaidsal on Feb 14, 2008 0:03:49 GMT
I only really started thinking of myself as northern when I was living in the south. Don't think that was to do with how other people saw me, I've never had that much of an accent, but it was a bit like people having a go at us for being a physical long ball team now, it made me dig in. Now I definitely think of North Staffs as on the line where the north starts, joining up with places like Mansfield or Chesterfield. And it's where the Pennines start too after all.
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Post by Dallas Cowboy on Feb 14, 2008 0:07:34 GMT
Something of a grey area. Statistically, we are part of the Midlands. The BBC has us as part of the Midlands. But ITV has us as both Midlands and the North West. Culturally, we have more in common with the North West than the Midlands. We are are more or less equidistant from both Birmingham and Manchester but more people gravitate towards the latter. Our accent certainly has nothing in common with the Black Country twang. So I would say we are on the North West Frontier.  |
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Post by mumf14 on Feb 14, 2008 0:11:20 GMT
RAF...Well if you live in the North West (Cheshire) it is reasonable to assume that the Tele programmes will be from the North West .....
TYPICAL RAF ....no brainer.!
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Post by scfclifer on Feb 14, 2008 0:17:02 GMT
northerner i only have to go down kent and every1 thinks i am a scouser i've never even been to liverscum
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Post by mumf14 on Feb 14, 2008 0:17:42 GMT
The scouse accent has firm routes in Ireland...Our accent is nothing remotely like it.
It is most definately unique to the Potteries as many reseachers have proved.
It has many Old English words and phrases in it....The Stoke dialect.
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Post by Premiership Titanic Captain on Feb 14, 2008 0:19:35 GMT
The scouse accent has firm routes in Ireland...Our accent is nothing remotely like it. It is most definately unique to the Potteries as many reseachers have proved. It his many Old English words and phrases in it....The Stoke dialect. I disagree. The modern Potteries accent is very much easily mistaken for a 'scouse' accent. I've been asked if I'm a 'red or blue' more times than I can remember when working out of Stoke, amongst other things, for example. The old Potteries accent is most definitely unique though. |
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Post by Dallas Cowboy on Feb 14, 2008 0:23:09 GMT
"The scouse accent has firm routes in Ireland..."  |
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Post by mumf14 on Feb 14, 2008 0:23:37 GMT
Manneh....The reason you are asked whether you are a red or a blue is because that is what all scousers do as a matter of introduction.
The surname study of Stoke and Liverpool are miles apart.....
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Post by ricksastokie on Feb 14, 2008 0:26:35 GMT
I've always thought of Stoke as being in the midlands.
Rick
"A dirty Southern Monkey"
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Post by Dallas Cowboy on Feb 14, 2008 0:34:35 GMT
"The surname study of Stoke and Liverpool are miles apart..... " Just like Mumf and the English language are miles apart. |
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Post by mumf14 on Feb 14, 2008 0:36:04 GMT
::)That's rich coming from Dallas....! ;D ;D |
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Post by trend....... on Feb 14, 2008 2:01:20 GMT
midlands. if you travel down south you are northeners. and if you go north, you are southerners...simple
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Post by njkk on Feb 14, 2008 2:46:33 GMT
The main things to determine the north/south divide are :- Gravy, Pickled Eggs & Puddings, If you go into a chippy and this holy trinity are on offer you can safely say you're in the north, if there's tripe on offer then its a cert.
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Post by mumf14 on Feb 14, 2008 2:52:36 GMT
Geographic positioning may also have a part to play..
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Post by njkk on Feb 14, 2008 2:53:48 GMT
Geographic positioning may also have a part to play.. That as well, but its mainly gravy |
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Feb 14, 2008 6:11:26 GMT
I consider myself from the North west as opposed to a Midlander, I know its geographically incorrect but I do feel more in touch with Scousers and Mancs than yam yams.
For me the Midlands start anywhere east of Tean and south of Lightwood. Both Utcheter and Stone talk different ;D
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Post by Northy on Feb 14, 2008 7:38:43 GMT
Consider myself a north-westerner, not a northener. I was with a well off Chelsea season ticket holder on Satdee night down sarf, and he was saying that when he came up to Manc he had chips and curry sauce and chips and gravy and loved it, he can't understand why they won't have it down there.. another one converted  |
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Post by snake on Feb 14, 2008 8:28:57 GMT
being from kent i would say stoke is midland,nothing like scouse accent.not squeeky,i can normally tell if someone comes from stoke
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Post by WurstBoy on Feb 14, 2008 8:42:50 GMT
Staffordshire is without question (at least Geographically speaking) in the Midlands, however following the Watford Gap line, even the Midlands is in the north, therefore I am a Northerner.
I also love gravy and dislike London.
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Post by albanianstokie on Feb 14, 2008 8:46:00 GMT
As far as I can remember the lines of demarcation between South and Midlands is the line from the wash to the mouth of the severn (Bristol). Between Midlands and North, it is roughly the line of the river trent. As (most) of Stoke is north of the trent (Just!) we could regard ourselves as the most southern northeners!!!
Personally,a s midlander sounds too brummie for my liking, i'm going with northerner and bloody proud of it!!!
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Post by maybanker on Feb 14, 2008 8:49:04 GMT
feel free to choose who you are ignored by!!
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Post by lordb on Feb 14, 2008 8:59:39 GMT
Crewe is in the north,Stafford is in the midlands.
we are (or should be) the Free Republic of Stoketopia.
vive la republic!
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Post by chunkie on Feb 14, 2008 9:06:45 GMT
north midlander! |
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Post by bostedclog on Feb 14, 2008 9:07:57 GMT
with stoke on trent being such a long city from north to south,i think if you live in goldenhill kidsgrove biddulph packmoor e.t.c you would consider yourself a northerner,i.e you wouldnt go shopping in birmingham but would go to liverpool or manchester.On the other hand if you live in Meir Longton blyth bridge you would most certainly have more in common with the midlands.I also think the dialect differs in these areas as well
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