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Post by Northy on Nov 19, 2008 14:20:31 GMT
I don't have a problem with Argentina. I want them to win. nothing that happened 26 years ago sway your decision? this is one game of football I couldn't give a flying fcuk about, and I'll stop and watch 4 kids kicking a tin can about.
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Post by Mr Rottweiler on Nov 19, 2008 14:31:09 GMT
God, the Jocks really are pathetic, worthless bunch of wankers aren't they...
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Post by Hiram on Nov 19, 2008 14:37:08 GMT
England are the worst losers ever. Terry Butcher should grow up. Also, Michael Owen's dive in 2002 to win a penalty that meant England beat Argetnina is conveniently forgotten when Maradona is mentioned. He won the 86 world cup practically by himself and England should have buried the chance they had in the second half in the same game. If anyone's to blame it's the ref and linsemen not Maradona.
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Post by voodooray1863 on Nov 19, 2008 14:37:47 GMT
maybee the thread should be greatist scotish hero 1-william wallace 2-youth from bay city rollers 3-maradona 4 willy from the simpsons pathetic
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Post by cousindupree on Nov 19, 2008 14:53:14 GMT
It seems the scots are still celebrating that goal from Maradonna and the Battle of Bannockburn. Possibly tw of the most momentous events in their history...probably mothing much else has happened.....sad indeed
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Post by Mr Rottweiler on Nov 19, 2008 15:44:10 GMT
If anyone's to blame it's the ref and linsemen not Maradona. Do we ever hear the last of "the ball was never over the line" from the Germans and Jocks? No. Fuck them, if they can complain so can we.
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Post by truckerged on Nov 19, 2008 16:17:06 GMT
vestan well summed up mate, couldnt believe my ears that the jocks were actually singing argentina at games how disgusting for scottish families who lost loved ones during the falklands. yes they are on the same level as those boslem boys up the road they lose 3-0 at home buts its allright because stoke lost 5-0. you couldnt make it up
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Post by blurtonboy66 on Nov 19, 2008 16:23:34 GMT
tbh,thought the fat cunt was on the verge of death not long back because of his drug use
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Post by Beardy200 on Nov 19, 2008 16:49:04 GMT
Scotland's "hatred" of the English obscures their logic so much, they'd side with a country who were shooting at their own less than 30 years ago, because one fat tosser with a messiah complex cheated us out of a game that, realistically, we'd have lost anyway. It's pathetic, when you think about it. It's pathetic to bring the Falklands in to this. The Scots are our sporting rivals and so they'll enjoy any defeat of the English at any sport. So can we guess that you take no great pleasure when we beat the Krauts then? Let's be honest the War is the only reason why we are so desperate to win against them over any other team so i don't see why the Falklands would be any different.
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Post by Pottero on Nov 19, 2008 16:49:52 GMT
Please explain that to me? H Come on - its not really that hard to understand is it!! ;D
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Post by Pottero on Nov 19, 2008 17:00:02 GMT
Maradona is a legend!!! ;D He is god, but the English just can't let it go can they! When the English won the world cup - they cheated - same shit different day!! I realise this is very obvious but as nobody else has said it. Stoke City is an ENGLISH football team, Stoke is an ENGLISH city, Staffordshire is an ENGLISH county - so as you clearly do not like the English/England then there is a very simple solution for you isn't there? Bit harsh that isn't it? I never said I didn't like the English/England. I have lived here half my life but I will always be Scottish because I was born there. Speaking from experience and seeing it from both sides of the fence (or Hadrains wall ) English hate the Scots as much as the Scots hate the English, there is no common ground to meet on and I don't think it will ever change! I am neither here nor there in the arguement as England has supplied me with a great job and mint missus!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2008 17:04:33 GMT
It is hard to understand as I have said before where was the cheat?
Hurst genuinley thought the ball was over the line the linesman thought he saw the ball over the line that is not cheating?
Marijuana used his hand he knew he used his hand his intention was to gain advantage by doing this.
Thegoal was given he cheated the officials I think that is simple to understand?
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Post by Pottero on Nov 19, 2008 17:10:22 GMT
Okay Okay I have already agreed with you on that! ;D Although it wasn't won fairly!!
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Post by chunky on Nov 19, 2008 17:14:08 GMT
if Hurst's goal had been disallowed we'd still have won 3-2 FFS!!!
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Post by Beardy200 on Nov 19, 2008 17:18:22 GMT
I grew up a small and nieve young boy thinking that the rivalry between England and Scotland was all just friendly banter. Then as you get older and wiser you realise the true sense of hatred from "a huge proportion" of the Scots and it starts to grate at you. So yes i have very little time for Scots but for no other reason than i'm returning the favour. Have a look at these 2 vids as i send them to every Scot i get the chance to. Fucking hilarious and amongst the exaggerations there are some cutting truths. The fat bearded guy isn't happy about it at all ENJOY ....
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Post by Akinbadbuy on Nov 19, 2008 17:33:52 GMT
It works both ways lads beleive me. I am half Scottish (my dad is Scottish, mum is english) I have seen both sides of the arguement many times before.
Some of the comments on this post sum it up really. Yes, the Scots generally don't like the english, no one can deny that. BUT The english generally don't like the scots either and yet alot of english people will never admit this. You will frequently hear comments from english folk like "we dont mind the scots, we just hate them because they hate the english". That is utter rubbish!!
In footballing terms Scotland will probably never compete on a level playing field with england again. In the 60's and 70's Scotland were producing some of the worlds best players but the massive investment in the english game over the last 15-20years has made the English premiership the super power in world football. I think that in the cases of some Scotland supporters there is jealousy and bitterness towards this especially when you consider that Britains 2nd and 3rd most supported clubs are Scottish. There is also a certain arrogance with alot of England supporters. This does not usually come from people who know about football in general (like alot of us stokies), but usually from the idiots you saw last saturday at old trafford following man utd when they are cockneys. Or the glory hunters of Arsenal, chelsea etc... Alot of these folk presume that england have the god given right to win everything becuase the team is full of the likes of rooneys / lampards. So that is why alot of Scots revel in england not doing well. Finally, on the subject of cheating. I fully understand why any england fan would not want to forgive maradona. The English game has always been proud of being good honest football. Sadly though this is starting to falter somewhat. It makes me angry when I see the likes of Gerrard / Ashley Cole diving week in week out. Players who are role models to our kids.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2008 17:38:02 GMT
It's pathetic to bring the Falklands in to this. The Scots are our sporting rivals and so they'll enjoy any defeat of the English at any sport. So can we guess that you take no great pleasure when we beat the Krauts then? Let's be honest the War is the only reason why we are so desperate to win against them over any other team so i don't see why the Falklands would be any different. I don't mind the Germans. Whenever I've been there they've always seemed a pretty friendly bunch and I don't mind the football team either.
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Post by RAF on Nov 19, 2008 18:10:43 GMT
So you can't then?
Thanks for clearing that up.
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Post by buxtop on Nov 19, 2008 19:33:32 GMT
Fecking jocks!
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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Nov 19, 2008 19:42:35 GMT
if Hurst's goal had been disallowed we'd still have won 3-2 FFS!!! Yes but, almost criminally, we would have been robbed of possibly the best ew sceonds of commentating ever.
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Post by MUZZPERTH on Nov 19, 2008 20:12:14 GMT
i am a jock and the whole thing is a joke. don't think all scots suck up to the guy. i am pretty much anti tartan army and them + the media who adore them are loving all this. i couldn't give too fooks about the guy or what he did against you lads 22 years ago.
perhaps if my nation stopped worrying about others, we might have more success in international football.
fat wee greasy junkie bastard anyway
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Post by scfc75 on Nov 19, 2008 20:18:54 GMT
Ooooh man, I luurrvvve de cake...
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Post by RAF on Nov 19, 2008 20:30:00 GMT
It's about time mcf had a haircut the scruffy cunter! H
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Post by crimesy on Nov 19, 2008 20:36:12 GMT
Hate the fucking scottish, a load of jealous english hating twats.. if something goes wrong in scotland, its a problem for great britain, something goes right in scotland, its scotlands glory then again.. theres the falkland hunting twats from argentina? along with the cheat maradonna ..
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Post by MUZZPERTH on Nov 19, 2008 20:57:39 GMT
Hate the fucking scottish, a load of jealous english hating twats.. if something goes wrong in scotland, its a problem for great britain, something goes right in scotland, its scotlands glory then again.. theres the falkland hunting twats from argentina? along with the cheat maradonna .. we ain't all like that mate.
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Post by powchirper on Nov 19, 2008 21:10:23 GMT
As much as we say we dislike the jocks its just at sport really and mainly football, i have some good Scots mates but NO Argentine friends.
Wish i had the drug cheat in my dead pool team now.
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Post by MUZZPERTH on Nov 19, 2008 21:12:50 GMT
the tartan army are a bunch of hypocrites anyway. they preach all the braveheart stuff and a severe dislike for england when they go to scotland games but the following week they lap up all the english football on the box. at times, i am embarrased to be scottish.
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Post by powchirper on Nov 19, 2008 21:28:47 GMT
And then bang on about putting teams in our premiership.
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Post by MUZZPERTH on Nov 19, 2008 21:29:23 GMT
And then bang on about putting teams in our premiership. should put the old firm in a 2 team league and get them tae fu*k.
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Post by scfc75 on Nov 19, 2008 21:32:29 GMT
I would be happy for them to join the English league (lots of arguments for / against) on the basis that they made their way up through the leagues and weren't just given the right to join the Prem. They should start in the Blue Square.
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