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Whelan
Nov 16, 2008 15:06:18 GMT
Post by allylee on Nov 16, 2008 15:06:18 GMT
who agrees with me that the lad should be given a start he can pick a pass and has got a lot of ability on the ball. Our CM amdy faye not good enough no brains and too slow and defensive minded. salif diao can be good at his job on his day but he is very defensive minded aswel. Where as whelan likes to go forward and play the killer ball. just my opinion
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Whelan
Nov 16, 2008 15:11:44 GMT
Post by Rebelliousjukebox on Nov 16, 2008 15:11:44 GMT
Agree.
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Whelan
Nov 16, 2008 15:31:09 GMT
Post by allylee on Nov 16, 2008 15:31:09 GMT
i thought whelan had a great game against rotherham in the cup.
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Whelan
Nov 16, 2008 15:37:10 GMT
Post by Squeekster on Nov 16, 2008 15:37:10 GMT
It seems the only person who can't see this is the one who matters most.
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Whelan
Nov 16, 2008 15:50:02 GMT
Post by msfit on Nov 16, 2008 15:50:02 GMT
Can't understand why he wasn't used yesterday.
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Whelan
Nov 16, 2008 15:55:03 GMT
Post by jcscfc on Nov 16, 2008 15:55:03 GMT
Lets face it there were some awful performances. Sorenson, Amdy Faye, Daio, Fuller
But the Whelan debate will keep rumbling and rumbling. He is nt the kind of player we play, he is n't big enough and his defending attributes are average.
If TP does nt want him he should let him out on loan.
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Whelan
Nov 16, 2008 16:03:34 GMT
Post by scfctilidie on Nov 16, 2008 16:03:34 GMT
Lets hope Whelan and Soares/tonge come in for the West Brom game.
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Whelan
Nov 16, 2008 16:16:39 GMT
Post by gilberto on Nov 16, 2008 16:16:39 GMT
i dont think anyone can argue that he doesnt deserve a chance now, to replace amdy faye or olofinjana. amdy for me was our worst summer signing, he couldnt even get in charlton's team. olofinjana's form has been slowly getting worse. i cant understand why TP persists with this diao/faye combination in the centre of midfield. both of them do the same job, both sit way too deep and neither of them are any good on the ball. surely playing whelan alongside diao would create a bit more balance between a ball winner and someone has a bit more ability.
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Whelan
Nov 16, 2008 19:49:28 GMT
Post by tony harrison on Nov 16, 2008 19:49:28 GMT
Whelan should have been in a long time ago.
He is better than any of the midfield of Faye, Diao and Olyfinjana.
Looking at Manures 4th goal yesterday, 2 of those players were just jogging behind when Shawcross was trying to get back at the ball. Lazy and not committed enough for me.
Looking at Whelan against Rotherham, he was up and down the pitch attacking defending. He has the quality to pass between defence, midfield and attack.
Should be in the team, Pulis was stating that if Shawcross does not keep up his high standards then he will be out. What about those midfield players who are not performing.
If a ball is landing on the edge of the box like it did for Dliao yesterday I know who I would want to be attempting to score from it Glenn Whelan.
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Whelan
Nov 16, 2008 19:55:26 GMT
Post by upthepotters on Nov 16, 2008 19:55:26 GMT
................................................sorenson................................................. griffin...................shawcross......................ab faye.....................higgy.... ...................................................diao...................................................... soares....................................whelan...............................delap..............
...............................................sidibe.......................................................
............................................kitson..........................................................
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Whelan
Nov 16, 2008 19:58:38 GMT
Post by SneydGreenStokie on Nov 16, 2008 19:58:38 GMT
who agrees with me that the lad should be given a start he can pick a pass and has got a lot of ability on the ball. Our CM amdy faye not good enough no brains and too slow and defensive minded. salif diao can be good at his job on his day but he is very defensive minded aswel. Where as whelan likes to go forward and play the killer ball. just my opinion Mate, I was so angry when he didnt replace Olifinjana yesterday. WTF has the lad got to do when Cresswell is preferred to him to come on. SGS
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Whelan
Nov 16, 2008 20:07:03 GMT
Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 16, 2008 20:07:03 GMT
The Cresswell substitution was a very strange one as he offers absolutely nothing to our team. This working hard thing is a load of bollocks as well as the game just passing him by.
Tonge should have come on as a direct replacement.
I like Whelan, but he hasn't shone for Stoke and is probably a better player in the minds of many for not being in the team.
I actually think that Tonge needs a run of games in the middle ahead of Whelan, or worst scenario would be to put Delap in the middle alongside Seyi with Tonge on one flank and Soares on the other.
We undoubtedly need better ball players in the team and as good a player as Rory is, playing wide left will ultimately catch up with him eventually.
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Whelan
Nov 16, 2008 21:04:15 GMT
Post by luke45 on Nov 16, 2008 21:04:15 GMT
It's difficult to say really, i think diao and amdy faye have generally been good for us, but i do agree, they are both in a similar mould, i was hoping olofinjana may be the attacking and creative midfielder, but he seems to be playing rather deep aswell, we could do with someone in the middle threading balls through giving us another option of attack.
Ide probably play whelan in the home games, the games were we are more attacking minded, and play amdy faye in the away games, were we sit deep and settle for a point.
Glenn has the credentials to be a great player, but in all honesty, i don't think he's rekindled his form produced at sheffield wednesday for us yet.
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Whelan
Nov 16, 2008 21:57:50 GMT
Post by twinedwitherlangen on Nov 16, 2008 21:57:50 GMT
It did hit me for six too when Cresswell came on for Olofinjana, just made no sense, Whelan or Tonge would have been better, more suited replacements, i'm pointing out the bleeding obvious here, and i'm baffled as to why TP did this, i wonder what he is doing in the photographs that Richard must have of him
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Whelan
Nov 16, 2008 23:20:51 GMT
Post by imallstokedup on Nov 16, 2008 23:20:51 GMT
Whelan has demonstrated twice this season he can take a free kick, dare bet he can take a corner as well.
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Whelan
Nov 16, 2008 23:26:22 GMT
Post by trend....... on Nov 16, 2008 23:26:22 GMT
definitely agree. but i very much doubt he will be played, as cresswell is a much better option dont forget
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Whelan
Nov 16, 2008 23:32:27 GMT
Post by stokieblokie on Nov 16, 2008 23:32:27 GMT
I agree. I reckon he could feed Kitson the ball the way he wants it too.
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Whelan
Nov 16, 2008 23:36:18 GMT
Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2008 23:36:18 GMT
Whelan has demonstrated twice this season he can take a free kick, dare bet he can take a corner as well. Not if those ones he took at Wigan are anything to go by, they were Brammer-esque.
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Whelan
Nov 16, 2008 23:36:19 GMT
Post by Block 26 on Nov 16, 2008 23:36:19 GMT
I haven't been on for the last week or so.
so..
why isn't soares in the SQUAD? as i know he was ill.
And i couldn't believe he put cresshit on instead of tonge or whelan!!!!
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Whelan
Nov 17, 2008 1:11:46 GMT
Post by apb1 on Nov 17, 2008 1:11:46 GMT
I would like to see Whelan play, but I have a feeling that when he does it won't be earth shattering: he's been disappointing since he arrived last season.
We looked good early on against Spurs going forward with Sidibe, Kitson and Soares linking up well. Diao Olofinjana and Delap will be the other midfielders I think.
If it's Faye out and one of Soares or Whelan to come in then it's Tom for me.
Win v WBA and I will be mighty pleased!
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Whelan
Nov 17, 2008 8:26:53 GMT
Post by Stokie-Leek on Nov 17, 2008 8:26:53 GMT
Wheelan should have been given a chance a long time ago, fair play to him for not kickin up a fuss and saying he wants to leave because i think a lot of players would have done by now.
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Whelan
Nov 17, 2008 8:31:06 GMT
Post by lordb on Nov 17, 2008 8:31:06 GMT
we have played 4 defensive midfielders for the last 3 games now,right pick for Aresanl but hasnt worked for the alst 2 games.
with Kitson playing v WBA we need Tongue,Whelan,Soares & Pugh (or any 2) to come in
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Whelan
Nov 17, 2008 9:52:20 GMT
Post by imallstokedup on Nov 17, 2008 9:52:20 GMT
Whelan has demonstrated twice this season he can take a free kick, dare bet he can take a corner as well. Not if those ones he took at Wigan are anything to go by, they were Brammer-esque. I didn't go that game, so couldn't comment, other than the fact Whelan didn't come on until 86mins.
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Whelan
Nov 17, 2008 10:35:34 GMT
Post by maninasuitcase on Nov 17, 2008 10:35:34 GMT
Totally agree Allylee, he has to have his chance. How Creswell gets on before him is beyond, he couldn't overtake a parked car. So much so some dick at Man Yoo, had the audacity to have a go at me for wanting Whelan on over Creswell. when at least 20 people behind me where shouting for Whelan too. You know who you are (he looked like that uselss twat of a singer Darius), and the next time you want to bad mouth me to your mates, say it to my face and we'll see how smart you are then. You clearly are a fuck wit of the highest order.
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Whelan
Nov 17, 2008 12:04:50 GMT
Post by growler on Nov 17, 2008 12:04:50 GMT
You can't play Diao and Amdy Faye in the same midfield. Diao wins it for me when fully fit and should be played with Whelan/Oli, Soares and Delap.
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Whelan
Nov 17, 2008 13:05:26 GMT
Post by rabbigan on Nov 17, 2008 13:05:26 GMT
Currently Whelan is the only player available with a goal making pass, excellent free kick ability, and an understanding and energy required for midfield playmaking.
There is absolutely no energy from our midfield.
Very very disappointed with team selection and continual preference of Cresswell overbetter nad more influential players.
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Whelan
Nov 17, 2008 13:22:44 GMT
Post by AlbertTatlock on Nov 17, 2008 13:22:44 GMT
All this bollox about Whelan should be a first team regular is exactly that, bollox. He was shite fro the majority of his time here last season and has done fuk all to warrant being picked this season. A mediocre run out against reading and a half decent 15 minute spell against the giants Rotherham and a few very average games for those giants of the international arena Eire. Have any of you who are calling for him actually seen him have a great game? I haven’t. Maybe it’s because you all think he can’t be any worse than Salif, Amdy Faye or Oli, well take my word he can and he has. It is time methinks though to give Tonge and Soares a chance, Soares has been quite good in the limited chance he’s had and Tonge has looked ok given his very limited time on the pitch. However I’m not Tony Pulis and I doubt he’ll be adventurous enough to chance them both, as for Whelan though he should be well down the pecking order and on that note I agree with Pulis 100%. Gouranga.
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Whelan
Nov 17, 2008 13:26:06 GMT
Post by apb1 on Nov 17, 2008 13:26:06 GMT
Currently Whelan is the only player available with a goal making pass, excellent free kick ability, and an understanding and energy required for midfield playmaking. How many of these killer passes did we see last season? I want him to possess all those things, but one good game against Rotherham doesn't make him Pele. And when I've seen him play for Ireland he just sits in front of the back 4 most of the time, a la Diao / Olly / Faye / all our other centre midfielders ;D Soares could be the key v WBA imho.
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Whelan
Nov 17, 2008 13:29:33 GMT
Post by PONTAFCE on Nov 17, 2008 13:29:33 GMT
Id agree with apb1 soares maybe the key to break brazil down.He could supply kitson with some decent balls and i think this is his time to shine with fuller being out.As for whelan i think he played superb against rotherham but the prem is a diffrent ball game all together.Id like tonge also given a run out as i thort he was ok when he came on against sunderland.He played some decent balls and he also could supply kitson ???
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Whelan
Nov 17, 2008 13:30:25 GMT
Post by AlbertTatlock on Nov 17, 2008 13:30:25 GMT
Currently Whelan is the only player available with a goal making pass, excellent free kick ability, and an understanding and energy required for midfield playmaking. There is absolutely no energy from our midfield. Very very disappointed with team selection and continual preference of Cresswell overbetter nad more influential players. PMSL Whelan's abillity is just a figment of some peoples imagination. I do agree on your last 2 point though. Gouranga.
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