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Whelan
Nov 17, 2008 13:32:35 GMT
Post by twinedwitherlangen on Nov 17, 2008 13:32:35 GMT
He has so much potential, and no ones likely to see it if he doesnt get a game, ive been to the reserve matches and hes been awful, it shocked me to see how bad hes been on occasions, as i KNOW this fella is a bloody good player
Just on a note, he did make a lovely pass at Wolves last season which Lawrence latched onto to score our equaliser, but thats by the by
The atmosphere around when his name is announced, or when he comes on as sub or anything is actually noticeable how many people at the matches vocally support him, and its good to see and hear, if his name is announced on Sat in the starting XI there will be a huge noticeable roar im sure
However, i dont actually expect it to be unfortunately
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Whelan
Nov 17, 2008 13:46:42 GMT
Post by AlbertTatlock on Nov 17, 2008 13:46:42 GMT
So how do you “KNOW this fella is a bloody good player” or that “He has so much potential” if you’ve never seen him play well? And you readily admit “ive been to the reserve matches and hes been awful, it shocked me to see how bad hes been on occasions”. Perhaps you’re seeing in the reserve matches what I and many many others (possibly Pulis as well) have seen when he’s been in the first team, I’d pick Danny Pugh over Whelan any day of the week as I’ve seen far more ability from him than I’ve yet seen from Whelan. Gouranga.
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Whelan
Nov 17, 2008 14:16:23 GMT
Post by twinedwitherlangen on Nov 17, 2008 14:16:23 GMT
I saw him playing for Sheff Wed, i've seen him play well for us last season, not set the world alight i know, but composed and assured on the ball, summat Amdy Faye for one never ever looks, hes also 24, so he has a future, just my opinion like, and Pugh isn't as good as Whelan, in my opinion, also Trappatoni knows a couple of things about football, and loves Glenns style of play
Just a difference of opinion in't it, it's all goood
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Whelan
Nov 17, 2008 14:27:01 GMT
Post by AlbertTatlock on Nov 17, 2008 14:27:01 GMT
So in your opinion he’s played well on a couple of occasions in the Championship but “not set the world alight” so what makes you think he’s going to do well (never mind “set the world alight”) in the prem? I agree with you about Amdy Faye but on a similar basis that you think Whelan has potential Pugh had a storming game against Newcastle (Premiership opponents BTW) last season, played well and scored against Rotherham and is young enough to still have a good future ahead of him, although like Whelan I don’t think he’s good enough for the Prem either. I agree it’s all about opinions but as you quite clearly contradict all the points you are making my opinion is quite clearly the correct one. Gouranga.
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Whelan
Nov 17, 2008 14:31:12 GMT
Post by twinedwitherlangen on Nov 17, 2008 14:31:12 GMT
He has potential to be do well, but, if he doesnt play then no one knows at all, it could go on forever and ever, if people dont get a decent chance then no one ever knows. I'd just like to see him given a chance as i believe he has it in him to do well, he also is quite terrier like in the last few appearances ive seen ie. rotherham and away at chelsea reserves, and thats what i like to see
Aaaanyway, i think i probably do contradict what im saying, im terrible on message boards by my own admittance
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Whelan
Nov 17, 2008 15:10:15 GMT
Post by apb1 on Nov 17, 2008 15:10:15 GMT
Currently Whelan is the only player available with a goal making pass, excellent free kick ability, and an understanding and energy required for midfield playmaking. How many of these killer passes did we see last season? I want him to possess all those things, but one good game against Rotherham doesn't make him Pele. And when I've seen him play for Ireland he just sits in front of the back 4 most of the time, a la Diao / Olly / Faye / all our other centre midfielders ;D Soares could be the key v WBA imho.
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Whelan
Nov 17, 2008 15:38:03 GMT
Post by AlbertTatlock on Nov 17, 2008 15:38:03 GMT
He has potential to be do well, but, if he doesnt play then no one knows at all, it could go on forever and ever, if people dont get a decent chance then no one ever knows. I'd just like to see him given a chance as i believe he has it in him to do well, he also is quite terrier like in the last few appearances ive seen ie. rotherham and away at chelsea reserves, and thats what i like to see Aaaanyway, i think i probably do contradict what im saying, im terrible on message boards by my own admittance That’s just the point though isn’t it, he been given his chance numerous of them in fact and we’ve seen what he’s capable of and you readily admit that he’s been “awful” even for the reserves so on what basis do you think that Pulis should consider him as a first team regular? Being equally as wank as Amdy, Salif, Oli and Cresswell isn’t a reason is it now? Gouranga.
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Whelan
Nov 17, 2008 15:40:20 GMT
Post by twinedwitherlangen on Nov 17, 2008 15:40:20 GMT
I didnt say he should be a first team regular
I think he deserves a chance, im bored of this now, i think Whelan has looked good in the past, and could be a good player PERHAPS in future and would like to see him given a chance, but i dont care enough to carry on discussing it on a message board
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Whelan
Nov 17, 2008 15:42:50 GMT
Post by AlbertTatlock on Nov 17, 2008 15:42:50 GMT
I didnt say he should be a first team regular I think he deserves a chance, im bored of this now, i think Whelan has looked good in the past, and could be a good player PERHAPS in future and would like to see him given a chance, but i dont care enough to carry on discussing it on a message board I’d just like to point out to you that you’re contradicting yourself again. ;D Gouranga.
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Whelan
Nov 17, 2008 15:43:20 GMT
Post by twinedwitherlangen on Nov 17, 2008 15:43:20 GMT
You're so clever
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Whelan
Nov 17, 2008 15:44:27 GMT
Post by twinedwitherlangen on Nov 17, 2008 15:44:27 GMT
Hold on i contradicted myself again by continuing in a debate on a message board, oh heavens! What a hypocritical fool i have been, heads will be hung in shame, both of them
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Whelan
Nov 17, 2008 17:27:05 GMT
Post by bobafett on Nov 17, 2008 17:27:05 GMT
I actually thought that Amdy was the pick of our midfield at old trafford although that isn't really saying much. I do agree that Whelan's absence baffles me. not even neccassarily as a starter but surely he offers more than Cresswell in midfield! I have nothing against Cresswell and I'll always be grateful to him for helping us to win promotion but you simply can't get away with playing a right footed striker on the left wing in this league.
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Whelan
Nov 17, 2008 20:13:53 GMT
Post by tony harrison on Nov 17, 2008 20:13:53 GMT
Whelan has demonstrated twice this season he can take a free kick, dare bet he can take a corner as well. Not if those ones he took at Wigan are anything to go by, they were Brammer-esque. He took one corner at Wigan and it didn't clear the first man. Bad corner yes but he is a good corner taker and free kick taker. Also very good from the edge of the box just like Diao isn't.
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