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Post by wuzza on Oct 26, 2024 19:17:21 GMT
I’m tired of it all .
How difficult can it be ?
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Post by tqstokie on Oct 26, 2024 19:22:57 GMT
We are a very weak side constantly bullied by teams we need to be beating. There is more fight in a cloth cat and it is quite unbelievable that a stockily built would be kick boxer like Manhoef is knocked off the ball like a rag doll. The whole team needs to toughen up and become difficult to play against. Pelach needs to go back to basics and make us hard to beat. If he does not know how to do it, ask Tony Pulis.
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Post by kjpt140v on Oct 26, 2024 19:24:56 GMT
The manager came in on a wave of bullshit, and there are still fools who think he is a genius. Talks the talk but cannot walk the walk.
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Post by matelot1996 on Oct 26, 2024 19:42:18 GMT
I believe one thing is certain.
It is impossible to continue this habit of flayling around the relegation zone as we have been for the last 4 seasons or more.
Eventually we will succumb to gravity.
It’s obvious nobody at our club has the nouse to arrest our perpetually poor form.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Oct 26, 2024 19:47:33 GMT
My honest thoughts are how the f**k has it come to this again season after season since relegation we have sunk to a more depressing low.
I honestly think we are gone this season & so will the manager/coach be it within the next few weeks or after dropping down to league 1.
There is just no end to this nightmare. The only constant in all this is Jon Coates who needs to step aside & let a real football person take over.
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Post by Picasso on Oct 26, 2024 19:54:42 GMT
All stuff that is currently being discussed in about five threads. Are you saying that this guy has neatly tidied everything up into just one thread? 😉 |
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Post by smallthorner on Oct 26, 2024 20:03:41 GMT
I believe one thing is certain. It is impossible to continue this habit of flayling around the relegation zone as we have been for the last 4 seasons or more. Eventually we will succumb to gravity. It’s obvious nobody at our club has the nouse to arrest our perpetually poor form. Dont forget the crocodile. |
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Post by questionable on Oct 26, 2024 20:12:39 GMT
Honestly speaking I could do a better job than Coates and save millions:
Gibson Err no
Cannon Why wait all summer, move on.
Thompson should be nowhere near the club
Gallagher See past injuries and stay well away at all costs.
Junior awful and 1 million, Christ above.
Rose/Wilmot game changing mistakes every other game
And historically spending insane amounts on utter crap
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Post by jokker on Oct 26, 2024 20:23:17 GMT
Are we going down? Will we survive just? Will We finish above half way? Will Pelach get the push? Will Walters get the push? Do you want J Coates to carry on? Should J Coates bring someone into the club to run it for him? If Pelach gets the push,who do you want who would realistically take the job? No team goes down in October. Pelacch could go before the season is over, but it'd be pointless, not to mention brainlesst to sack a manager who has been unbeaten in five games, then loses one narrowly. Give him another 18 months, unless he really has us in the last three with 20 pts to number 21. Otherwise give him a new contract. I would like to have as much money as Coates that I may even even consoder letting him go, but since I don't I would keep him in the job for life. There's no pont bringing in someone to run the club. He already has done that, you just haven't noticed. |
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Post by kevkj on Oct 26, 2024 20:24:36 GMT
We have signed players who may work in other teams.
But as it is we have a team of fannies.
Physicality is not essential but this lot cannot even pass to each other.
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Post by kustokie on Oct 26, 2024 20:25:33 GMT
Honestly speaking I could do a better job than Coates and save millions: Gibson Err no Cannon Why wait all summer, move on. Thompson should be nowhere near the club Gallagher See past injuries and stay well away at all costs. Junior awful and 1 million, Christ above. Rose/Wilmot game changing mistakes every other game And historically spending insane amounts on utter crap Nothing has changed. The Coates family needs to wake up and accept that changing the manager/coach every 6 months isn’t the solution. The need to put more time and money into finding better players, rather than upgrading the lighting, filling in corners, putting in a fan zone etc. this lot just isn’t good enough. We’re a bunch has-been, crocked, journey men, loanees and players no one has heard of. The managers don’t care it’s just a job - change club, pick up cash from Stoke, get fired, pick up more cash from Stoke, repeat. |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Oct 26, 2024 20:31:24 GMT
Are we going down? Probably
Will we survive just? Maybe
Will We finish above half way? No
Will Pelach get the push? If things don't improve then yes
Will Walters get the push? If pelach goes then SJW should follow him
Do you want J Coates to carry on? No
Should J Coates bring someone into the club to run it for him? Yes
If Pelach gets the push,who do you want who would realistically take the job? God knows. But we need someone with experience
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Post by kustokie on Oct 26, 2024 20:33:22 GMT
Are we going down? Probably Will we survive just? Maybe Will We finish above half way? No Will Pelach get the push? If things don't improve then yes Will Walters get the push? If pelach goes then SJW should follow him Do you want J Coates to carry on? No Should J Coates bring someone into the club to run it for him? Yes If Pelach gets the push,who do you want who would realistically take the job? God knows. But we need someone with experience See my post above |
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Post by potter25 on Oct 26, 2024 20:34:00 GMT
If a Liverpool scout was watching Koumas today I think they’d be advising their manager get him back in Jan and send him somewhere else…
What is the lad learning?
Numerous times today in the 2nd half he was calling for a through ball that never came
All he gets to do is run around
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Post by NG4POTTERS on Oct 26, 2024 20:36:05 GMT
I think whatever is going to happen this season we stick with him and give him several seasons to sort this team out. 3/4 years minimum. Its completely pointless staying on the hiring/firing production line. Problem is when you are working within a structure where you ain't solely responsible for the players you want to add to the squad you are at the mercy of this random hierarchy ladder. If we are sticking with this kind of system just keep Pelach and hope he sorts it.
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Post by damo on Oct 26, 2024 20:46:16 GMT
My thoughts are quite simple. We have a reasonable side that consistently lacks a focal point. I couldn’t count how many times Sheffield were under pressure and played the ball out to Moore. He held it and laid it off. Our two best performances this season were with Gallagher doing exactly the same thing.
My 14yr old lad asked me at Bristol and today when I’m explaining this simple way to play football, why have we only got Gallagher who can play there. I had no bloody answer..
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Post by wearepremierleague on Oct 26, 2024 20:48:13 GMT
Numb. Completely expected , can’t even be arsed to be angry any more. When a terrible team has a terrible manager it tends to end one way. This could be the year.
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Post by kustokie on Oct 26, 2024 20:48:32 GMT
If a Liverpool scout was watching Koumas today I think they’d be advising their manager get him back in Jan and send him somewhere else… What is the lad learning? Numerous times today in the 2nd half he was calling for a through ball that never came All he gets to do is run around He is getting a good lesson in what it’s like to play for a bad team. He’ll be gone at Christmas. Canon too. |
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Post by kustokie on Oct 26, 2024 20:50:56 GMT
Numb. Completely expected , can’t even be arsed to be angry any more. When a terrible team has a terrible manager it tends to end one way. This could be the year. I don’t believe Pep could get anything out of this lot. Hmmmm….there’s a thought - he is looking for a new challenge 😂😂 |
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Post by wearepremierleague on Oct 26, 2024 20:53:52 GMT
Numb. Completely expected , can’t even be arsed to be angry any more. When a terrible team has a terrible manager it tends to end one way. This could be the year. I don’t believe Pep could get anything out of this lot. Hmmmm….there’s a thought - he is looking for a new challenge 😂😂 Well Bielsa took Leeds from relegation candidates to the Premier league, so I’m sure he could. Pelach is just way over his head. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 26, 2024 20:57:35 GMT
They've fucked it again.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 26, 2024 21:03:05 GMT
Are we going down? Probably Will we survive just? Maybe Will We finish above half way? No Will Pelach get the push? If things don't improve then yes Will Walters get the push? If pelach goes then SJW should follow him Do you want J Coates to carry on? No Should J Coates bring someone into the club to run it for him? Yes If Pelach gets the push,who do you want who would realistically take the job? God knows. But we need someone with experience Mowbray if he's up for it. |
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Post by superpotter on Oct 26, 2024 21:06:07 GMT
If a Liverpool scout was watching Koumas today I think they’d be advising their manager get him back in Jan and send him somewhere else… What is the lad learning? Numerous times today in the 2nd half he was calling for a through ball that never came All he gets to do is run around I agree he’s constantly making runs and never gets the pass, in a decent championship side he would be a quality player. Only Moran is decent in our midfield and capable of feeding the forward s but can’t do it all on his own and defend as well . |
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Post by Ygor on Oct 26, 2024 21:06:18 GMT
We're run by idiots. How long before you get it?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 26, 2024 21:09:29 GMT
If a Liverpool scout was watching Koumas today I think they’d be advising their manager get him back in Jan and send him somewhere else… What is the lad learning? Numerous times today in the 2nd half he was calling for a through ball that never came All he gets to do is run around I agree he’s constantly making runs and never gets the pass, in a decent championship side he would be a quality player. Only Moran is decent in our midfield and capable of feeding the forward s but can’t do it all on his own and defend as well . It’s time to ditch the wide men for me. They’re not providing anything for the forwards. Get 3 proper midfielders in there to get some through balls going which Koumas and Cannon thrive on. The wingers can come on if we need a change of tactics. |
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Post by JHPR on Oct 26, 2024 21:10:51 GMT
I don’t believe Pep could get anything out of this lot. Hmmmm….there’s a thought - he is looking for a new challenge 😂😂 Well Bielsa took Leeds from relegation candidates to the Premier league, so I’m sure he could. Pelach is just way over his head. In the 3 seasons prior to Bielsa taking charge Leeds finished 13th, 7th, 13th. During that period it was only the 2014/15 season they were relegation candidates due to the turmoil over the clubs financial future and transfer merry-go round behaviour. I think Pelach is learning. Hopefully it goes right. I know we've played some bad football but we can't just keep on sacking managers and giving them very little time to make an impact. It's having huge negative effects on fans, players, administration and finances. More than anything the club needs stability, we should at least try to get behind the team and manager in order to help out. |
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Post by JHPR on Oct 26, 2024 21:12:54 GMT
If a Liverpool scout was watching Koumas today I think they’d be advising their manager get him back in Jan and send him somewhere else… What is the lad learning? Numerous times today in the 2nd half he was calling for a through ball that never came All he gets to do is run around I agree he’s constantly making runs and never gets the pass, in a decent championship side he would be a quality player. Only Moran is decent in our midfield and capable of feeding the forward s but can’t do it all on his own and defend as well . I catch myself thinking that about a few of our players, in a decent championship side players like Burger, Junho and Moran would probably look quite good too. At least good more often. Reminds me of Smallbone, he was average to decent for us and looked good with Southampton the next season. |
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Post by robrigo on Oct 26, 2024 21:14:43 GMT
I’ve lost all interest. I’m so completely fed up of it all. The last 7 years have been nothing short of woeful. It just seems to be a never ending cycle that will inevitably lead to league one.
Today was a glorious autumn day. I spent it in the garden with the kids. Looked at the score at halftime and full time and that’s it. Love Stoke, always will but they’re just not a priority in my life anymore.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 26, 2024 21:17:32 GMT
Well Bielsa took Leeds from relegation candidates to the Premier league, so I’m sure he could. Pelach is just way over his head. In the 3 seasons prior to Bielsa taking charge Leeds finished 13th, 7th, 13th. During that period it was only the 2014/15 season they were relegation candidates due to the turmoil over the clubs financial future and transfer merry-go round behaviour. I think Pelach is learning. Hopefully it goes right. I know we've played some bad football but we can't just keep on sacking managers and giving them very little time to make an impact. It's having huge negative effects on fans, players, administration and finances. More than anything the club needs stability, we should at least try to get behind the team and manager in order to help out. What's he learnt? |
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Post by JHPR on Oct 26, 2024 21:20:42 GMT
In the 3 seasons prior to Bielsa taking charge Leeds finished 13th, 7th, 13th. During that period it was only the 2014/15 season they were relegation candidates due to the turmoil over the clubs financial future and transfer merry-go round behaviour. I think Pelach is learning. Hopefully it goes right. I know we've played some bad football but we can't just keep on sacking managers and giving them very little time to make an impact. It's having huge negative effects on fans, players, administration and finances. More than anything the club needs stability, we should at least try to get behind the team and manager in order to help out. What's he learnt? Hopefully that Tchamedeu shouldn't start. And that we look much better with a back 4 than a 5. |
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