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Post by jay1610 on Oct 26, 2024 16:40:24 GMT
We’re more than quarter through the season, so at least there’s less than 75% remaining of another boring, hopeless campaign.
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Post by NassauDave on Oct 26, 2024 16:40:33 GMT
Finding it hard to be bothered any more. Me too. |
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Post by senojbor on Oct 26, 2024 16:41:37 GMT
We haven't had any physicality in the team for ages, it was men against boys today at times, verging on embarrassing. Exactly mate. Too lightweight. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 26, 2024 16:42:51 GMT
League One here we come. At least we might, yes might, just win a few more games than we lose in that division. Sick of the bottom half and being consistently shit. Win more than lose? I wouldn't put money on it. |
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 26, 2024 16:43:36 GMT
The last manager had won 7 out of 10 and was sacked.
The current manager has won 1 in 7. Granted he’s been handed a squad that’s not fit for purpose, that has no real pace or strength or cohesion.
How long does he & Waltere realistically get though?
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Oct 26, 2024 16:44:33 GMT
I love the club & always will but the elephant in the room is the Coates family & while they hold all the aces nothing will change.
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Post by thornestein on Oct 26, 2024 16:45:45 GMT
The last manager had won 7 out of 10 and was sacked. The current manager has won 1 in 7. Granted he’s been handed a squad that’s not fit for purpose, that has no real pace or strength or cohesion. How long does he & Waltere realistically get though? [br it’s the same squad that was involved in 7 of them 10 games when we won 7 so not as bad a ppl make out |
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 26, 2024 16:46:06 GMT
Bottom 3 at the end of November and it's difficult to give more time unless there is a massive improvement. We can't keep giving teams so many chances, last 3 games I think it's been 60+ shots or more against us..
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Post by Redweatherwarningforextremetem on Oct 26, 2024 16:49:16 GMT
We got our decade in the Prem. For that I'm thankful. Resigned to the fact now that we are going to be somewhere between mediocre and dreadful for the next decade.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Oct 26, 2024 16:49:58 GMT
In isolation of today alone, I don’t think we played too badly. Yes we gifted them 2 goals and there was much to be concerned about with certain individuals, but we created better chances than they did yet sadly, familiarly, we didn’t take them again. We have to work so hard for goals yet we gift them easily at the other end. Not that xg means much but another humping 1.6-0.4. Since when has 1-0 been classed as a 'humping'? |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 26, 2024 16:51:19 GMT
I tell you what the answer isn’t, constant fucking whining.
We’re in a period of utter stagnation, it doesn’t make for great viewing but my God Stoke fans are a special breed at times. Plenty of other clubs have seen similar situations, Derby, Portsmouth, Sheff Wed, some of them without even getting the benefits of affordable season tickets, free travel and the like.
Constructive criticism I’m all for we all have an opinion on players, formations, tactics etc. Sounding off on this message board, knock yourself out it’s what it’s here for. But this negatively that surrounds the crowd from the first minute is just draining. Until January the players are the players, and probably the manager is the manager not sure what multiple threads talking about the same things solves. Of course there’s hope, there’s always hope these things are often cyclical.
Each to their own I guess…..
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 26, 2024 16:53:05 GMT
In isolation of today alone, I don’t think we played too badly. Yes we gifted them 2 goals and there was much to be concerned about with certain individuals, but we created better chances than they did yet sadly, familiarly, we didn’t take them again. We have to work so hard for goals yet we gift them easily at the other end. We created a half chance all game did you actually watch the game? their keeper could bag his gloves up and send them back for a refund, unused. Yeah I watched it thanks. Phillips could and should have scored twice and koumas should have scored. As usual, we had several very good situations that don’t lead to the chance at goal they should do. Did you watch actually watch it? 😂 |
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Post by thornestein on Oct 26, 2024 16:54:51 GMT
I tell you what the answer isn’t, constant fucking whining. We’re in a period of utter stagnation, it doesn’t make for great viewing but my God Stoke fans are a special breed at times. Plenty of other clubs have seen similar situation, Derby, Portsmouth, Sheff Wed, some of them doing even get the benefits affordable season tickets, free travel and the like. Constructive criticism I’m all for we all have an opinion on players, formations, tactics etc. Sounding off on this message board, knock yourself out it’s what it’s here for. But this negatively that surrounds the crowd from the first minute is just draining. Until January the players are the players, and probably the manager is the manager not sure what multiple threads talking about the same things solves. Of course there’s hope, there’s always hope these things are often cyclical. Each to their own I guess….. the answer isn’t happy clapping our way to oblivion either , ppl are rightly pissed off and allowed to express it anyway they want |
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Post by citynickscfc on Oct 26, 2024 16:55:29 GMT
League One here we come. At least we might, yes might, just win a few more games than we lose in that division. Sick of the bottom half and being consistently shit. Once again this was said when we were relegated from the premier League. How is that working out? |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 26, 2024 16:55:57 GMT
If they are our hope, we might as well close the club down now. Sadly Dave with this set of players they are exactly what is needed.Our midfield is piss weak and there’s no physicality whatsoever in the team,those 3 would go along way to solving some of that Pearson doesn’t want to be here. I could stand next to Lawal in the post office and I wouldn’t have a clue who he was. I’ve seen more of Gallagher at the golf club this season than I’m ever likely to see of him on the pitch |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 26, 2024 16:56:47 GMT
I tell you what the answer isn’t, constant fucking whining. We’re in a period of utter stagnation, it doesn’t make for great viewing but my God Stoke fans are a special breed at times. Plenty of other clubs have seen similar situation, Derby, Portsmouth, Sheff Wed, some of them doing even get the benefits affordable season tickets, free travel and the like. Constructive criticism I’m all for we all have an opinion on players, formations, tactics etc. Sounding off on this message board, knock yourself out it’s what it’s here for. But this negatively that surrounds the crowd from the first minute is just draining. Until January the players are the players, and probably the manager is the manager not sure what multiple threads talking about the same things solves. Of course there’s hope, there’s always hope these things are often cyclical. Each to their own I guess….. the answer isn’t happy clapping our way to oblivion either , ppl are rightly pissed off and allowed to express it anyway they want Happy clapping is just a meaningless phrase though. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 26, 2024 16:59:38 GMT
Sadly Dave with this set of players they are exactly what is needed.Our midfield is piss weak and there’s no physicality whatsoever in the team,those 3 would go along way to solving some of that Pearson doesn’t want to be here. I could stand next to Lawal in the post office and I wouldn’t have a clue who he was. I’ve seen more of Gallagher at the golf club this season than I’m ever likely to see of him on the pitch They bring attributes that this team need whether they want to be here or you recognise them. |
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Post by Billy the kid on Oct 26, 2024 16:59:54 GMT
We created a half chance all game did you actually watch the game? their keeper could bag his gloves up and send them back for a refund, unused. Yeah I watched it thanks. Phillips could and should have scored twice and koumas should have scored. As usual, we had several very good situations that don’t lead to the chance at goal they should do. Did you watch actually watch it? 😂 I did mate, and like Bristol game, we came up looking half arsed. If your highlighting a central defender as our shining light for goals, then we have a problem. manhouf looks 3 yards off the pace, cannon probs be more effective playing for Leiceter, our midfield are fucking useless and the defence looks shit. but feel free shit on your hands and clap  |
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Post by bagnallboothen on Oct 26, 2024 17:00:00 GMT
I tell you what the answer isn’t, constant fucking whining. We’re in a period of utter stagnation, it doesn’t make for great viewing but my God Stoke fans are a special breed at times. Plenty of other clubs have seen similar situation, Derby, Portsmouth, Sheff Wed, some of them doing even get the benefits affordable season tickets, free travel and the like. Constructive criticism I’m all for we all have an opinion on players, formations, tactics etc. Sounding off on this message board, knock yourself out it’s what it’s here for. But this negatively that surrounds the crowd from the first minute is just draining. Until January the players are the players, and probably the manager is the manager not sure what multiple threads talking about the same things solves. Of course there’s hope, there’s always hope these things are often cyclical. Each to their own I guess….. Did the people who run those clubs hold a meeting at the start of every season saying how good the squad was and they were hoping to be towards the top end of the league? They're being judged on their own public expectations, and they get absolutely nowhere near, every single year. |
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 26, 2024 17:00:54 GMT
Pearson doesn’t want to be here. I could stand next to Lawal in the post office and I wouldn’t have a clue who he was. I’ve seen more of Gallagher at the golf club this season than I’m ever likely to see of him on the pitch They bring attributes that this team need whether they want to be here or you recognise them. And I’ll be very surprised if any of them play 20 games. |
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Post by stokerstayinup on Oct 26, 2024 17:01:01 GMT
I tell you what the answer isn’t, constant fucking whining. We’re in a period of utter stagnation, it doesn’t make for great viewing but my God Stoke fans are a special breed at times. Plenty of other clubs have seen similar situation, Derby, Portsmouth, Sheff Wed, some of them doing even get the benefits affordable season tickets, free travel and the like. Constructive criticism I’m all for we all have an opinion on players, formations, tactics etc. Sounding off on this message board, knock yourself out it’s what it’s here for. But this negatively that surrounds the crowd from the first minute is just draining. Until January the players are the players, and probably the manager is the manager not sure what multiple threads talking about the same things solves. Of course there’s hope, there’s always hope these things are often cyclical. Each to their own I guess….. the answer isn’t happy clapping our way to oblivion either , ppl are rightly pissed off and allowed to express it anyway they want You're right,just get behind the team when they're winning,they don't need support when they're finding it tough,home advantage is a fallacy. |
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Post by jay1610 on Oct 26, 2024 17:02:54 GMT
I tell you what the answer isn’t, constant fucking whining. We’re in a period of utter stagnation, it doesn’t make for great viewing but my God Stoke fans are a special breed at times. Plenty of other clubs have seen similar situations, Derby, Portsmouth, Sheff Wed, some of them without even getting the benefits of affordable season tickets, free travel and the like. Constructive criticism I’m all for we all have an opinion on players, formations, tactics etc. Sounding off on this message board, knock yourself out it’s what it’s here for. But this negatively that surrounds the crowd from the first minute is just draining. Until January the players are the players, and probably the manager is the manager not sure what multiple threads talking about the same things solves. Of course there’s hope, there’s always hope these things are often cyclical. Each to their own I guess….. I do broadly agree, but my most serious concern for the club’s long-term prospects is the competence of the club’s leadership. I think the undercurrent of discontent is arguably a symptom of that - coupled with the general idiocy found in every fanbase, granted. |
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Post by lordb on Oct 26, 2024 17:03:37 GMT
In isolation of today alone, I don’t think we played too badly. Yes we gifted them 2 goals and there was much to be concerned about with certain individuals, but we created better chances than they did yet sadly, familiarly, we didn’t take them again. We have to work so hard for goals yet we gift them easily at the other end. You have got to be joking Appalling performance today |
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Post by thornestein on Oct 26, 2024 17:05:03 GMT
the answer isn’t happy clapping our way to oblivion either , ppl are rightly pissed off and allowed to express it anyway they want You're right,just get behind the team when they're winning,they don't need support when they're finding it tough,home advantage is a fallacy. they get more than plenty of support |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 26, 2024 17:05:42 GMT
I tell you what the answer isn’t, constant fucking whining. We’re in a period of utter stagnation, it doesn’t make for great viewing but my God Stoke fans are a special breed at times. Plenty of other clubs have seen similar situation, Derby, Portsmouth, Sheff Wed, some of them doing even get the benefits affordable season tickets, free travel and the like. Constructive criticism I’m all for we all have an opinion on players, formations, tactics etc. Sounding off on this message board, knock yourself out it’s what it’s here for. But this negatively that surrounds the crowd from the first minute is just draining. Until January the players are the players, and probably the manager is the manager not sure what multiple threads talking about the same things solves. Of course there’s hope, there’s always hope these things are often cyclical. Each to their own I guess….. Did the people who run those clubs hold a meeting at the start of every season saying how good the squad was and they were hoping to be towards the top end of the league? They're being judged on their own public expectations, and they get absolutely nowhere near, every single year. The people who run the club are searching for a winning formula to stop the rot and get us back on an upward trajectory. Man Utd arguably the biggest club in the world are doing exactly the same, it happens. Sometimes like when we appointed Macari or Pulis it takes a manager or a signing or two to start the ball rolling, we’re treading water (at best) and it’s very very frustrating. I’m hoping a change to the FFP rules will be the catalyst, in the meantime I’m hoping something clicks on the pitch to at least make us competitive until the next window. But other than turn up most weeks and try and support the team what choice have I/others got? If people want regime change they should do something practical about it…… |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 26, 2024 17:06:07 GMT
They bring attributes that this team need whether they want to be here or you recognise them. And I’ll be very surprised if any of them play 20 games. I hope you’re wrong mate and infact I’m still clinging on to Gallagher playing next Saturday 😊 |
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Post by stokerstayinup on Oct 26, 2024 17:07:14 GMT
You're right,just get behind the team when they're winning,they don't need support when they're finding it tough,home advantage is a fallacy. they get more than plenty of support Attendance doesn't equal support.The atmosphere is awful. |
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Post by bagnallboothen on Oct 26, 2024 17:10:09 GMT
Did the people who run those clubs hold a meeting at the start of every season saying how good the squad was and they were hoping to be towards the top end of the league? They're being judged on their own public expectations, and they get absolutely nowhere near, every single year. The people who run the club are searching for a winning formula to stop the rot and get us back on an upward trajectory. Man Utd arguably the biggest club in the world are doing exactly the same, it happens. Sometimes like when we appointed Macari or Pulis it takes a manager or a signing or two to start the ball rolling, we’re treading water (at best) and it’s very very frustrating. I’m hoping a change to the FFP rules will be the catalyst, in the meantime I’m hoping something clicks on the pitch to at least make us competitive until the next window. But other than turn up most weeks and try and support the team what choice have I/others got? If people want regime change they should do something practical about it…… You've managed to write a 6 paragraph reply without answering the question. Changes to FFP won't change a thing, I dare say we've spent a country mile more than any other club that has been in the Championship for the last 7 years. Worked wonders hasn't it. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 26, 2024 17:14:54 GMT
The people who run the club are searching for a winning formula to stop the rot and get us back on an upward trajectory. Man Utd arguably the biggest club in the world are doing exactly the same, it happens. Sometimes like when we appointed Macari or Pulis it takes a manager or a signing or two to start the ball rolling, we’re treading water (at best) and it’s very very frustrating. I’m hoping a change to the FFP rules will be the catalyst, in the meantime I’m hoping something clicks on the pitch to at least make us competitive until the next window. But other than turn up most weeks and try and support the team what choice have I/others got? If people want regime change they should do something practical about it…… You've managed to write a 6 paragraph reply without answering the question. Changes to FFP won't change a thing, I dare say we've spent a country mile more than any other club that has been in the Championship for the last 7 years. Worked wonders hasn't it. Of course they’re hoping to be towards the top of the league. Us and about 18 others. You could have 24 of the best run clubs in the Championship and 3 would still have to go down. We’ve spent a country mile more because Gary Rowett pissed £60m up the wall on expensive dross and we’re still paying the price financially for that. That was the owners biggest mistake, everything since has just been to try and repair the damage and move forward…… |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 26, 2024 17:15:12 GMT
Yeah I watched it thanks. Phillips could and should have scored twice and koumas should have scored. As usual, we had several very good situations that don’t lead to the chance at goal they should do. Did you watch actually watch it? 😂 I did mate, and like Bristol game, we came up looking half arsed. If your highlighting a central defender as our shining light for goals, then we have a problem. manhouf looks 3 yards off the pace, cannon probs be more effective playing for Leiceter, our midfield are fucking useless and the defence looks shit. but feel free shit on your hands and clap It makes no difference what position he plays, Phillips 2 chances were easier to score than miss. I share all of your concerns and merely stress that IN ISOLATION today wasn’t too bad. We gifted them 2 goals. At no point did we look overrun like we did in previous 2 games and for a 1 man midfield, Burger battled hard and made a half decent fist of doing the job of himself and 4 others. I even acknowledged concern about individuals (Milly, junior, canon and Moran to name but 4). I thought we were better today than in midweek and v Norwich. Each to their own. |
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