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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 23, 2024 12:26:11 GMT
The fact remains Campbell , Baker and especially Laurent are better than we have now which represents recruitment failure again , the ills drive themselves there brigade missing the point as ever that it only works if you bring someone back who is better . Tyrese is currently tearing it up at Sheffield United. Continuing where he left off |
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Post by OldStokie on Oct 23, 2024 12:37:57 GMT
A lack of a decent DM and a defence that is as porous as a colander is a recipe for disaster. SJW and Narcis have got a lot of work to do in the January window. Sheff U away could be a bloody rout.
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 23, 2024 12:39:01 GMT
I certainly don't get why Stoke are so secretive and not open about injuries. I think at least we should get a confirmation of what Gallagher's injury is, when we can expect Lawal in full training, likewise Pearson, anything less is not acceptable. The club will now exactly the extent of all those injuries.
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 23, 2024 12:40:14 GMT
Yes Old Stokie, you think we have to be beating either Millwall or Derby at home, otherwise if could get decidedly messy.
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Post by ceejays on Oct 23, 2024 12:44:30 GMT
Recall Lowe in January . Play 442 which works with Gallagher . No reason why lowe and cannon can’t be a pairing
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Post by noustie on Oct 23, 2024 12:47:44 GMT
Christ a center midfield of Kante and Kante would still be blowing out its arse trying to cover all the gaps.
Can't have full backs who're better getting forward than they are defending (or a CB exposed at right back) behind wingers/ forwards who don't track back along with two front men who don't drop into the middle with a center midfield that couldn't tackle a fish supper.
It's just an absolute mess.
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Post by smithypotter on Oct 23, 2024 13:04:28 GMT
Our wide areas were as much of a concern as our central midfield.
Bocat especially was getting exposed because neither the centre backs nor the wingers were helping to cover the acres of space being left for their players to run in behind.
Successful modern teams need to defend as a unit and that means all 10 outfield players playing their part, not leaving the backline to sort it all out and then the forward line being 15 yards higher up the pitch. That being said our CB's are nowhere near mobile enough, I don't know why Phillips isn't in the team for that reason.
We're just simply not a good cohesive team with any chemistry.
I watched the Liverpool Chelsea match and Salah, Jones were everywhere on the pitch but noticeably helping their defenders out almost every time Chelsea broke into the final third.
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Post by mamathestriker on Oct 23, 2024 13:06:55 GMT
Our wide areas were as much of a concern as our central midfield. Bocat especially was getting exposed because neither the centre backs nor the wingers were helping to cover the acres of space being left for their players to run in behind. Successful modern teams need to defend as a unit and that means all 10 outfield players playing their part, not leaving the backline to sort it all out and then the forward line being 15 yards higher up the pitch. That being said our CB's are nowhere near mobile enough, I don't know why Phillips isn't in the team for that reason. We're just simply not a good cohesive team with any chemistry. I watched the Liverpool Chelsea match and Salah, Jones were everywhere on the pitch but noticeably helping their defenders out almost every time Chelsea broke into the final third. When we had the ball, Bristol City were on us like a rash but still managed to keep their shape and purpose. When we press, we look like we go to pieces and it's all very hit and miss. |
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Post by smithypotter on Oct 23, 2024 13:12:14 GMT
Our wide areas were as much of a concern as our central midfield. Bocat especially was getting exposed because neither the centre backs nor the wingers were helping to cover the acres of space being left for their players to run in behind. Successful modern teams need to defend as a unit and that means all 10 outfield players playing their part, not leaving the backline to sort it all out and then the forward line being 15 yards higher up the pitch. That being said our CB's are nowhere near mobile enough, I don't know why Phillips isn't in the team for that reason. We're just simply not a good cohesive team with any chemistry. I watched the Liverpool Chelsea match and Salah, Jones were everywhere on the pitch but noticeably helping their defenders out almost every time Chelsea broke into the final third. When we had the ball, Bristol City were on us like a rash but still managed to keep their shape and purpose. When we press, we look like we go to pieces and it's all very hit and miss. We were absolutely shit scared of them, made them look like Premiership standard. |
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 23, 2024 13:53:15 GMT
I’d be very surprised if Pearson plays another game for us and if he does it will be out of sheer desperation. He was useless when fit yep so not sure aboutthis assumption he'll walk straight into the team and be a different player no matter how bad the midfield is . Was no coincidence SS dropped him and results came at the time I've also posted a couple of times now referring to him not stick to rehab programmes and diet plans during his recovery too. From what I've been told he's another one happy to sat on his fat contract doing the square root of fuck all. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 23, 2024 14:00:59 GMT
He was useless when fit yep so not sure aboutthis assumption he'll walk straight into the team and be a different player no matter how bad the midfield is . Was no coincidence SS dropped him and results came at the time I've also posted a couple of times now referring to him not stick to rehab programmes and diet plans during his recovery too. From what I've been told he's another one happy to sat on his fat contract doing the square root of fuck all. Yep..certainly appears that way. Unloading him will be tricky as well |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 23, 2024 14:15:24 GMT
Our wide areas were as much of a concern as our central midfield. Bocat especially was getting exposed because neither the centre backs nor the wingers were helping to cover the acres of space being left for their players to run in behind. Successful modern teams need to defend as a unit and that means all 10 outfield players playing their part, not leaving the backline to sort it all out and then the forward line being 15 yards higher up the pitch. That being said our CB's are nowhere near mobile enough, I don't know why Phillips isn't in the team for that reason. We're just simply not a good cohesive team with any chemistry. I watched the Liverpool Chelsea match and Salah, Jones were everywhere on the pitch but noticeably helping their defenders out almost every time Chelsea broke into the final third. I disagree re Bocat. Stevens didn’t exactly sure things up when he came on and he’s a very reliable defender. Ultimately, Junho is a passenger at the moment, offensively and defensively whilst a non existent midfield means it’s all too easy to overload v our full backs. |
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 23, 2024 15:05:27 GMT
I've also posted a couple of times now referring to him not stick to rehab programmes and diet plans during his recovery too. From what I've been told he's another one happy to sat on his fat contract doing the square root of fuck all. Yep..certainly appears that way. Unloading him will be tricky as well Loaned out until he can leave for free no doubt. |
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 23, 2024 15:13:03 GMT
Stevens didn't look his normal assured self when he came on.
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Post by mcw on Oct 23, 2024 15:13:22 GMT
We need to be looking at a 4-2-1-3 formation when we hopefully clear up injuries in midfield.
There is no way we can continue having Manhoeff/Bae/Koumas/Cannon basically acting as a front four, they are totally incapable of playing their part defensively and whilst Moran is playing really well he is more adept when going forwards and not backwards. Last night we had all 5 in the team with only Thompson supposedly acting as the "defensive" midfielder. No surprise that once our initial spurt dwindled out and the game settled down that they started to find massive gaps in midfield to play through. As that happened the back 4 naturally dropped deeper and we seemed content to let them play pretty much up to our box and take pot shots at will.
I think the only solution is to put 2 sitting midfielders (from Thompson/Lawal/Burger/Seko/Sidibe) in front of the back 4, play Moran as the link midfielder and then put two of Bae/Manhoeff/Koumas alongside Cannon.
It's a hot mess and I don't think NP at the moment knows how to get the best from this squad as there doesn't appear to be a natural formation that suits all of the players we have assembled.
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Post by questionable on Oct 23, 2024 15:24:13 GMT
I was stunned just how much room they had centrally last night, they knew exactly that by sticking tight to our wide players they’d strangle our game plan, if we had one that is.
Yet again we received the ball no forward movement and it went backwards and mostly long balls.
This possession/press/ inverted wingers bollox is pathetic and we have a young inexperienced Pep wannabee pretending to be some coaching guru being overseen by Poundland Walter’s
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Post by LphPotter on Oct 23, 2024 15:25:40 GMT
Stevens didn't look his normal assured self when he came on. Thought this also, didn’t seem to know where he was meant to be. Which is strange considering he used to always play as a wing back for Sheffield United. Think he might be better as a left back in a 4 now. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Oct 23, 2024 15:35:12 GMT
It’s a crisis when you lose an irreplaceable player. Or two.
Currently our only irreplaceable player is Vik in goal.
And herein lies our problem. All our successful sides have been built around a solid dependable core. Our core is weak at best and rotten at worst.
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Post by questionable on Oct 23, 2024 15:37:07 GMT
It’s a crisis when you lose an irreplaceable player. Or two. Currently our only irreplaceable player is Vik in goal. And herein lies our problem. All our successful sides have been built around a solid dependable core. Our core is weak at best and rotten at worst. Which beggars belief as we’ve done this time and time again in assembling rotten squads |
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