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Post by rowleyscfc on Oct 23, 2024 7:28:43 GMT
I think Moran is decent. Needs Lawal in there asap and potentially Sidibe too Why is a guy who's played 40 games for a relegated Fleetwood going to transform a Championship midfield that has been failing for years? Where did we sign Stein from? Oxford? Prime Stoke writing players off before they've kicked a ball |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 23, 2024 7:34:26 GMT
I think Moran is decent. Needs Lawal in there asap and potentially Sidibe too IMO On 60 minutes we should have brought Tezgel on for Canon, played him up front / running from attacking midfielder alongside Koumas( who was brilliant) and brought Sidibe on in midfield for Bae |
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Post by jm on Oct 23, 2024 7:38:31 GMT
Moran was very good on the transition last night
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Post by kerouac on Oct 23, 2024 7:40:21 GMT
Our MF go missing too much.We get over run.. Letting Baker go was a massive fook up.. We are paying dearly.. Lewis Baker was equally guilty of being part of a missing midfield. He wasn’t and isn’t the answer to any of the problems we have there. Absolutely….rose tinted glasses or what! We were totally rudderless last night,not one player seemingly had a handle on the game.Baker was never a player who took the game by the scruff of the neck either. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 23, 2024 7:44:13 GMT
Lewis Baker was equally guilty of being part of a missing midfield. He wasn’t and isn’t the answer to any of the problems we have there. Absolutely….rose tinted glasses or what! We were totally rudderless last night,not one player seemingly had a handle on the game.Baker was never a player who took the game by the scruff of the neck either. The fact remains Campbell , Baker and especially Laurent are better than we have now which represents recruitment failure again , the ills drive themselves there brigade missing the point as ever that it only works if you bring someone back who is better . |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 23, 2024 7:44:20 GMT
The defence often takes the flak, but we have two wide players that barely track back (whether through design or laziness), which exposes our full backs. To have that luxury you need an absolute baller of a CDM (we apparently have one but God knows how long he’s out for?) and two mobile centre halves (Phillips is sat on the bench). So without that we must play with two midfielders that are defensively minded…..
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Post by kerouac on Oct 23, 2024 7:53:11 GMT
Absolutely….rose tinted glasses or what! We were totally rudderless last night,not one player seemingly had a handle on the game.Baker was never a player who took the game by the scruff of the neck either. The fact remains Campbell , Baker and especially Laurent are better than we have now which represents recruitment failure again , the ills drive themselves there brigade missing the point as ever that it only works if you bring someone back who is better . Baker and Laurent were better players…when they wanted to be.I could never trust either of them to knuckle down and I don’t think we are missing Campbell as much as I thought we would. It’s up to Pelach to start walking the walk and try to get the best out of the new lads. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 23, 2024 7:56:21 GMT
The fact remains Campbell , Baker and especially Laurent are better than we have now which represents recruitment failure again , the ills drive themselves there brigade missing the point as ever that it only works if you bring someone back who is better . Baker and Laurent were better players…when they wanted to be.I could never trust either of them to knuckle down and I don’t think we are missing Campbell as much as I thought we would. It’s up to Pelach to start walking the walk and try to get the best out of the new lads. I don’t disagree they were i an out but Laurent ability to hold the ball and also run with it and strength were so obviously missing and presumably thats the vision for lawal but they more than anyone knew he has a stress fracture so it was mad risk and is costing much more than the 500k we got for him week after week |
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Post by thepottypotter on Oct 23, 2024 8:00:54 GMT
I have no idea why he doesn't give Seko more game time. Can't be worse than Moran and Thommo last couple of games. Moran was one of our "better" players last night 🤔 Moran was good going forwards but defensively…. for 75 mins of the game they attacked so easily that it felt like we didn’t have a midfield. |
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Post by kerouac on Oct 23, 2024 8:08:22 GMT
Baker and Laurent were better players…when they wanted to be.I could never trust either of them to knuckle down and I don’t think we are missing Campbell as much as I thought we would. It’s up to Pelach to start walking the walk and try to get the best out of the new lads. I don’t disagree they were i an out but Laurent ability to hold the ball and also run with it and strength were so obviously missing and presumably thats the vision for lawal but they more than anyone knew he has a stress fracture so it was mad risk and is costing much more than the 500k we got for him week after week I agree re Laurent,perhaps had he stayed Pelach could have instilled some consistency..but we’ll never know. The Lawal situation is baffling. |
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Post by bagnallboothen on Oct 23, 2024 8:18:24 GMT
Why is a guy who's played 40 games for a relegated Fleetwood going to transform a Championship midfield that has been failing for years? Where did we sign Stein from? Oxford? Prime Stoke writing players off before they've kicked a ball I haven't written him off, but as I've stated on other threads he has 42 career appearances in a L1 team that got relegated. He's a young lad, the expectation of people on here that he's going to come in and be our version of Roy Keane is ridiculous. |
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Post by rowleyscfc on Oct 23, 2024 8:23:50 GMT
Where did we sign Stein from? Oxford? Prime Stoke writing players off before they've kicked a ball I haven't written him off, but as I've stated on other threads he has 42 career appearances in a L1 team that got relegated. He's a young lad, the expectation of people on here that he's going to come in and be our version of Roy Keane is ridiculous. Bad teams doesn't equate to making him a bad player though. Just hope he offers us something different |
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Post by northernstokie on Oct 23, 2024 8:24:53 GMT
Where did we sign Stein from? Oxford? Prime Stoke writing players off before they've kicked a ball I haven't written him off, but as I've stated on other threads he has 42 career appearances in a L1 team that got relegated. He's a young lad, the expectation of people on here that he's going to come in and be our version of Roy Keane is ridiculous. I don't think anyone is expecting him to be the best defensive midfielder in the world but an improvement on Thompson would be nice |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 23, 2024 8:56:32 GMT
Our MF go missing too much.We get over run.. Letting Baker go was a massive fook up.. We are paying dearly.. Baker was just as bad, all he had was a shot and that was it, useful but we need players with more to their game than that. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 23, 2024 9:23:13 GMT
I haven't written him off, but as I've stated on other threads he has 42 career appearances in a L1 team that got relegated. He's a young lad, the expectation of people on here that he's going to come in and be our version of Roy Keane is ridiculous. I don't think anyone is expecting him to be the best defensive midfielder in the world but an improvement on Thompson would be nice You make it sound like an improvement on Thompson is difficult? At the end of the day, too many people on here talk like we are a top half team and are somehow underperforming. We aren’t. When the likes of Thompson, Wilmot (at right back), Rose, Tchamadu are involved in 20+ games per season you are only ever going to be near the bottom. Throw in the fact that arguably our best player offers very few assists and zero goals and we aren’t capable of delivering a decent corner from either side of the pitch, it’s fair to say, being comfortably away from relegation danger is quite a result. If Bonham was playing instead of Viktor, as he was last season, we’d undoubtedly be in the bottom 3 already. We are absolutely hopeless at pretty much everything. |
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Post by greenhoff on Oct 23, 2024 9:29:55 GMT
I don't think anyone is expecting him to be the best defensive midfielder in the world but an improvement on Thompson would be nice You make it sound like an improvement on Thompson is difficult? At the end of the day, too many people on here talk like we are a top half team and are somehow underperforming. We aren’t. When the likes of Thompson, Wilmot (at right back), Rose, Tchamadu are involved in 20+ games per season you are only ever going to be near the bottom. Throw in the fact that arguably our best player offers very few assists and zero goals and we aren’t capable of delivering a decent corner from either side of the pitch, it’s fair to say, being comfortably away from relegation danger is quite a result. If Bonham was playing instead of Viktor, as he was last season, we’d undoubtedly be in the bottom 3 already. We are absolutely hopeless at pretty much everything. The thought of Victor getting injured is simply too much to comprehend. |
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Post by thepottypotter on Oct 23, 2024 9:40:55 GMT
I don't think anyone is expecting him to be the best defensive midfielder in the world but an improvement on Thompson would be nice You make it sound like an improvement on Thompson is difficult? At the end of the day, too many people on here talk like we are a top half team and are somehow underperforming. We aren’t. When the likes of Thompson, Wilmot (at right back), Rose, Tchamadu are involved in 20+ games per season you are only ever going to be near the bottom. Throw in the fact that arguably our best player offers very few assists and zero goals and we aren’t capable of delivering a decent corner from either side of the pitch, it’s fair to say, being comfortably away from relegation danger is quite a result. If Bonham was playing instead of Viktor, as he was last season, we’d undoubtedly be in the bottom 3 already. We are absolutely hopeless at pretty much everything. I agree that’s it’s hard for our best player to get goals and assists when he is playing in goal! :-D |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 23, 2024 9:50:55 GMT
I can't believe people are suggesting Baker and Laurent would improve us.
They were moved on for a reason.
It's the tactics that are the issue, he's got to find a way of getting another body in midfield.
Cannon can't play as a lone striker and Gallagher is out so Koumas will have to do it
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Post by lordb on Oct 23, 2024 11:15:19 GMT
Once Bristol City overloaded in central midfield he had to bring Sol (or Seko but Sol really) on
Instead he went to wing backs
Really didn't understand that switch at all
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Post by figo85 on Oct 23, 2024 11:21:22 GMT
It drives me crazy that when our back 3 are doing their side to side passing so much of it is because there's fuck all options to pass forward. I watched Thompson last night and he manages to hide behind an opposition player so as not to be available to receive the ball, it honestly looks like he's doing it on purpose. We look so weak in so many areas, shite recruitment. I thought exactly the same. He does it all the time, then he’s quick to berate every bugger else. |
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Post by pez75 on Oct 23, 2024 11:21:37 GMT
A midfield 2 with Thompson in will always struggle. He is a position player of limited ability who marks space. Rarely tackles and even more rarely creates.
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Post by figo85 on Oct 23, 2024 11:23:09 GMT
Absolutely….rose tinted glasses or what! We were totally rudderless last night,not one player seemingly had a handle on the game.Baker was never a player who took the game by the scruff of the neck either. The fact remains Campbell , Baker and especially Laurent are better than we have now which represents recruitment failure again , the ills drive themselves there brigade missing the point as ever that it only works if you bring someone back who is better . Tyrese is currently tearing it up at Sheffield United. |
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 23, 2024 11:25:04 GMT
Away from the midfield issues, Gibson. It looks like if the ball is a few yards either side of him, he can't adjust his legs or body. Turning circle of the Titanic and distribution isn't great, yet probably undroppable.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 23, 2024 11:28:53 GMT
Pearson and Lawal will be the midfield once fit but who knows when that will be I’d be very surprised if Pearson plays another game for us and if he does it will be out of sheer desperation. He was useless when fit yep so not sure aboutthis assumption he'll walk straight into the team and be a different player no matter how bad the midfield is . Was no coincidence SS dropped him and results came at the time |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 23, 2024 11:30:17 GMT
Absolutely….rose tinted glasses or what! We were totally rudderless last night,not one player seemingly had a handle on the game.Baker was never a player who took the game by the scruff of the neck either. The fact remains Campbell , Baker and especially Laurent are better than we have now which represents recruitment failure again , the ills drive themselves there brigade missing the point as ever that it only works if you bring someone back who is better . You keep prattling on about Campbell. Koumas and Cannon have scored more this season than he did in all of last season. Yep, Campbell is better |
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Oct 23, 2024 11:37:17 GMT
I think Moran is decent. Needs Lawal in there asap and potentially Sidibe too Why is a guy who's played 40 games for a relegated Fleetwood going to transform a Championship midfield that has been failing for years? Oh sorry I go got everyone in a team was instantly poor because the team didn’t perform. We signed him because he’s good and has lots of promise. This board 🙄 |
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Oct 23, 2024 11:38:03 GMT
Why is a guy who's played 40 games for a relegated Fleetwood going to transform a Championship midfield that has been failing for years? Where did we sign Stein from? Oxford? Prime Stoke writing players off before they've kicked a ball Scary isn’t it. |
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Post by thehoof on Oct 23, 2024 11:41:04 GMT
Our MF go missing too much.We get over run.. Letting Baker go was a massive fook up.. We are paying dearly.. Yes, letting Baker go was drug addled madness. Given we have no viable alternatives it was a special sort of lunacy. Baker other than the odd goal was a complete irrelevance. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 23, 2024 11:51:09 GMT
A midfield with no creativity is not going to get you very far.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Oct 23, 2024 12:17:54 GMT
Why is a guy who's played 40 games for a relegated Fleetwood going to transform a Championship midfield that has been failing for years? Oh sorry I go got everyone in a team was instantly poor because the team didn’t perform. We signed him because he’s good and has lots of promise. This board 🙄 You having a bad day? |
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