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Post by bangorstokie on Oct 22, 2024 21:00:35 GMT
Is there any chance of us signing the lad permanently, or is he too good for Liverpool to let him go.
If people think Cannon is worth 10m, then what price Koumas?
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Post by wuzza on Oct 22, 2024 21:03:57 GMT
Firstly yes he is too good for Liverpool not to want to see more of him and secondly even if they didn’t why on earth would he sign for a club in a permanent death spiral ??
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 22, 2024 21:06:56 GMT
Is there any chance of us signing the lad permanently, or is he too good for Liverpool to let him go. If people think Cannon is worth 10m, then what price Koumas? He's not too good for Liverpool but he's way too good for us. Lord knows what that substitution was all about ... |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 22, 2024 21:14:01 GMT
Is there any chance of us signing the lad permanently, or is he too good for Liverpool to let him go. If people think Cannon is worth 10m, then what price Koumas? He's not too good for Liverpool but he's way too good for us. Lord knows what that substitution was all about ... He looked fucked, that’d do it. Having said that, a fucked Koumas is ten times the player of Ennis |
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Post by sticky on Oct 22, 2024 21:15:52 GMT
Looks a really good player, no chance he’d sign for us
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Post by bangorstokie on Oct 22, 2024 21:30:13 GMT
Looks a really good player, no chance he’d sign for us Thinking about it, the only way we would have a chance of signing him, is if we won promotion, which of course is a fucking laughable scenario. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 22, 2024 21:31:15 GMT
I think we’ll end up running him into the ground
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Post by thepottypotter on Oct 22, 2024 21:35:48 GMT
No chance.
He's way too good for a perennial hovering above the relegation zone Championship club like us!
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Post by swampySCFC on Oct 22, 2024 21:36:28 GMT
When Lou, TP, Hughes etc were here we signed players. We seem to have accumulated a bunch of over rated arseholes no doubt on top money over the last few years. After those years in the top flight the best Stokies can hang on to is frozen ST and free away travel.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Oct 22, 2024 23:20:28 GMT
Playing in this current team will do him no favours and there were representatives from Liverpool there tonight to assess his overall performance.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Oct 22, 2024 23:20:47 GMT
No
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Post by LphPotter on Oct 22, 2024 23:24:08 GMT
Playing in this current team will do him no favours and there were representatives from Liverpool there tonight to assess his overall performance. What? Of course playing every week in the championship will do him plenty of favours. Liverpool will be very pleased with how he’s doing at the moment and very pleased with how we’re utilising him. No doubt about it. |
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Oct 22, 2024 23:26:33 GMT
Playing in this current team will do him no favours and there were representatives from Liverpool there tonight to assess his overall performance. What? Of course playing every week in the championship will do him plenty of favours. Liverpool will be very pleased with how he’s doing at the moment and very pleased with how we’re utilising him. No doubt about it. You seem pretty certain mate |
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Post by smithypotter on Oct 22, 2024 23:29:30 GMT
Playing in this current team will do him no favours and there were representatives from Liverpool there tonight to assess his overall performance. I questioned this earlier on in the season. Moran & Koumas have come from parent clubs that flourish in youth development at the highest level. It'll be no surprise when these clubs and others refuse to loan out their young talents to us that could hamper their development. Nothing is guaranteed in football, but if there's one club certain to knock any degree of potential out of a player, it's ours. |
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Oct 22, 2024 23:32:33 GMT
Playing in this current team will do him no favours and there were representatives from Liverpool there tonight to assess his overall performance. I questioned this earlier on in the season. Moran & Koumas have come from parent clubs that flourish in youth development at the highest level. It'll be no surprise when these clubs and others refuse to loan out their young talents to us that could hamper their development. Nothing is guaranteed in football, but if there's one club certain to knock any degree of potential out of a player, it's ours. We had to fight very hard to get Koumas and we may well have to fight hard to keep him until the end of the season. Time will tell but I don't think he'll be here after Christmas. |
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Post by LphPotter on Oct 22, 2024 23:33:58 GMT
What? Of course playing every week in the championship will do him plenty of favours. Liverpool will be very pleased with how he’s doing at the moment and very pleased with how we’re utilising him. No doubt about it. You seem pretty certain mate You don’t think they’ll be happy with him playing every single week? Playing well for the most part? It doesn’t happen for most loans in the championship. |
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Oct 22, 2024 23:35:48 GMT
You seem pretty certain mate You don’t think they’ll be happy with him playing every single week? Playing well for the most part? It doesn’t happen for most loans in the championship. It's not just about game time mate. Development has a huge part to play, with coaching that will improve his game. |
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Oct 22, 2024 23:36:16 GMT
Koumas probably won't make the Liverpool grade long term in my opinion. It's an incredibly high standard that very few players reach and I don't think he's quite going to reach that level. However I do think he's definitely going to be a Premier League player in the future so from that perspective we've got absolutely no chance of signing him. As others have said, we'd have to get promoted to stand a chance and there's absolutely no chance of that happening anytime soon. We're in a long term decline and any recovery will take a number of years. By which point he'll have already established himself somewhere in the Premier League with someone else.
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Post by LphPotter on Oct 22, 2024 23:40:57 GMT
You don’t think they’ll be happy with him playing every single week? Playing well for the most part? It doesn’t happen for most loans in the championship. It's not just about game time mate. Development has a huge part to play, with coaching that will improve his game. He’s getting better though, after his first couple of games he was pretty poor but recently he’s getting much better. His awareness at the start was at a poor standard but you can already see it’s massively improving. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 23, 2024 19:00:00 GMT
Playing in this current team will do him no favours and there were representatives from Liverpool there tonight to assess his overall performance. A pint of bitter Sir? |
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Oct 23, 2024 20:11:24 GMT
Playing in this current team will do him no favours and there were representatives from Liverpool there tonight to assess his overall performance. A pint of bitter Sir? Oof!! Crossed my mind, must admit. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 23, 2024 20:15:06 GMT
Oof!! Crossed my mind, must admit. It’s most amusing. As for Koumas he should be played through the middle instead of Cannon. And I think people are underestimating how much Liverpool think of him and how could he can be. I think he stands a decent chance of making it there. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 23, 2024 20:18:33 GMT
Oof!! Crossed my mind, must admit. It’s most amusing. As for Koumas he should be played through the middle instead of Cannon. And I think people are underestimating how much Liverpool think of him and how could he can be. I think he stands a decent chance of making it there. He most certainly won’t but he’s already the best player we’ve got. I think he should play through the middle at the weekend with a stacked midfield. Cannon would be a useful sub if we need to change the game second half |
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Post by emretezzy on Oct 23, 2024 20:19:30 GMT
Oof!! Crossed my mind, must admit. It’s most amusing. As for Koumas he should be played through the middle instead of Cannon. And I think people are underestimating how much Liverpool think of him and how could he can be. I think he stands a decent chance of making it there. He is more than good enough for Liverpool ability wise. For an 18 year old he's as good as it gets. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 23, 2024 20:35:34 GMT
It’s most amusing. As for Koumas he should be played through the middle instead of Cannon. And I think people are underestimating how much Liverpool think of him and how could he can be. I think he stands a decent chance of making it there. He is more than good enough for Liverpool ability wise. For an 18 year old he's as good as it gets. Wayne Rooney disagrees 😉 |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Oct 23, 2024 20:39:24 GMT
He's to good for us.... If he doesn't remain at Liverpool he'll still end up at a Prem club like maybe Fulham or Forest???
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 23, 2024 20:53:03 GMT
When you loan out a youngster, to see them getting regular game time week after week in a competitive league is worth it’s weight in gold.
What would be the point of recalling him and loaning him out to Leeds, PSV, Stuttgart, Ipswich or someone else a step up for him to spend half of his time out of the team?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 23, 2024 20:55:52 GMT
When you loan out a youngster, to see them getting regular game time week after week in a competitive league is worth it’s weight in gold. What would be the point of recalling him and loaning him out to Leeds, PSV, Stuttgart, Ipswich or someone else a step up for him to spend half of his time out of the team? Is it not up to him? |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 23, 2024 20:57:33 GMT
When you loan out a youngster, to see them getting regular game time week after week in a competitive league is worth it’s weight in gold. What would be the point of recalling him and loaning him out to Leeds, PSV, Stuttgart, Ipswich or someone else a step up for him to spend half of his time out of the team? Hes our best player if you ask me. Liverpool are more likely to get concerned we're flogging him to death by over using him if anything.. |
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Post by desman2 on Oct 23, 2024 21:14:10 GMT
Liverpool would probably use his loan this season to sell him for a better wedge than they would be able to if he stayed there.
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