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Post by dirtclod on Sept 21, 2024 17:30:46 GMT
We need to quit messing about halfway up an unsanitary tributary with no feasible means of transportation.
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Post by Ron on Sept 21, 2024 17:39:26 GMT
Once again many miss the point on this thread- the moaning is about the last 7 years not last night ffs.
But I don’t understand anyone who calls them selves a supporter who is not as furious as I am about the shitshow of the last 7/8 years.
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Post by BristolMick on Sept 21, 2024 17:40:59 GMT
So after some calming down, sat in the bar discussing where this leads to after 7 years of relatively abject performance , your thoughts on: Does Walter’s see the end of the season in post? Does Pèlach see Christmas? Does Pelach see the end of the season? What are your expectations now? Where will we finish? Will the club be moving forward as one at the end of the season? ‘As thee got yer brown wings? Does Walter’s see the end of the season in post? Yes Does Pèlach see Christmas? Yes Does Pelach see the end of the season? Yes What are your expectations now? Upper Mid Where will we finish? 10th Will the club be moving forward as one at the end of the season? Yes Most sensible prediction on this thread. BM |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 21, 2024 17:44:32 GMT
Walters and Pelach will be hounded out by the fans before Xmas. John Coates will ditch the DoF/HC model and resort to the God manager. We will appoint a dinosaur manager ala Lambert who will try to grind out results with a young disillusioned squad incapable of playing that way and we will get relegated.
Alternatively Pelach will get the team gel and will end up top half with Walters and Pelach assurred of next season.
I genuinely don't know which of those 2 will happen but I'm pretty convinced it will be one or the other.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 21, 2024 17:46:14 GMT
Does Walter’s see the end of the season in post? Yes Does Pèlach see Christmas? Yes Does Pelach see the end of the season? Yes What are your expectations now? Upper Mid Where will we finish? 10th Will the club be moving forward as one at the end of the season? Yes Most sensible prediction on this thread. BM If you're on your 5th hit of monkey dust today it is aye 😆 That said I hope to fook he's right.. |
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Post by BristolMick on Sept 21, 2024 17:56:15 GMT
Most sensible prediction on this thread. BM If you're on your 5th hit of monkey dust today it is aye 😆 That said I hope to fook he's right.. It’s like an episode of the muppets on here mate every time we get beat! BM |
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Post by teanstoke on Sept 21, 2024 18:02:22 GMT
How can people give Pel shit, he has had no time . First half was not bad , work rate was good but second half energy levels and concentration had gone. They should be up Hanchurch hills at 5 in the morning.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 21, 2024 18:02:23 GMT
If you're on your 5th hit of monkey dust today it is aye 😆 That said I hope to fook he's right.. It’s like an episode of the muppets on here mate every time we get beat! BM Twas ever thus Mick 😆 as the song goes, its only a game boys...🎵 🎶 We're either winning the league or finishing bottom. Everyone else is praying for mid table safety. To be fair though its been a bag of shyte for too long now. |
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Post by ian57 on Sept 21, 2024 18:02:27 GMT
I don’t think that we will go down if I’m being honest.
If the worst comes to the worst 2 of Jun-Ho,burger,manhoef or sidibe will be sold in January to free up money to get a few in to grind out results.
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Post by smallthorner on Sept 21, 2024 18:13:54 GMT
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct the other way--in short, the period was so far like the present period that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only A tale of this city? A tale of shity |
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Sept 21, 2024 18:53:54 GMT
Relegation..
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Post by jonparkinsgut on Sept 21, 2024 19:12:39 GMT
. . . or alternatively, the new manager will get his philosophy and ideas across with Pearson and Lawal coming in to reinforce the team who show a gradual improvement to finish in a play-off place followed by beating WBA in the Wembley final. If Carlsberg did fantasy’s. Well if we win at Middlesbrough 3-1 next Saturday then no doubt we will have ridiculous posts on here claiming we are going up as equally ridiculous as the posts now that claim that not only are we going down but will finish bottom! BM Agreed, but we will not win 3-1 at Middlesbrough next week..... |
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Post by onepara on Sept 21, 2024 19:21:23 GMT
If the feeling is that these players looked unfit last night, then that is down to Schuey. He said that he had given each player a fitness schedule to keep to, during the close season. He said that they would be checked against that when they returned for duty. He said that he would work them harder than they had been worked before. He promised us a team that would play fast attacking football. You saw HIS team & the results of those promises last night. So don't shed any tears over his parting.
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Post by Milkie on Sept 21, 2024 20:21:00 GMT
Once again many miss the point on this thread- the moaning is about the last 7 years not last night ffs. But I don’t understand anyone who calls them selves a supporter who is not as furious as I am about the shitshow of the last 7/8 years. Cheers Ron, absolutely not about last night, just the context of the latest episode since the “ what’s all the fuss about season” I see it as a series of ever decreasing circles, as a fan do you: Get less interested and move away from the club? Stay loyal and trust the process? Stay loyal but become more and more frustrated? Stay loyal but get to the point of anger forcing you to step away? |
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Post by Northy on Sept 21, 2024 20:28:23 GMT
It's like being in a loveless relationship at the moment, you want to give it up and leave, but some good memories keep you from doing it, hoping they could come back.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 21, 2024 20:42:40 GMT
It's like being in a loveless relationship at the moment, you want to give it up and leave, but some good memories keep you from doing it, hoping they could come back. Leicester, Southampton, Leeds, Ipswich, Wolves, Forest fans would have all said the same over the last 20 years, from top flight to League one and back again. You have to keep the faith. It’s hard when you’re treading water with all the tools seemingly in place to get back in the Premier League but football is cyclical and you just have to roll with the punches sometimes. It will get better, it might be good judgement or it might just be a lucky appointment but it will happen….. |
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Post by staffordpotter78 on Sept 21, 2024 20:49:48 GMT
For clarity I'm not saying whether this new manager is the second coming of Lou Macari or even Nathan Jones, I know very little about him. What I do know is our defence is poor, our midfield is sloppy and we can't score.
That combination usually ends in tears and somebody losing their job as the sacrificial lamb, and I can guarantee that none of the Directors will own up to it being their fault and they'll push the narrative of they've pumped money in to the club and it's down to a poor manager.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 21, 2024 20:53:53 GMT
If Pelach doesn't see Christmas or the end of the season, then surely Walters can't remain beyond either of those dates as well.
Or are we simply going to let him have another crack at spectacularly fucking up so quickly yet again?
His head is on the chopping board with this appointment surely. Obviously if it's time for Pelach to be moved on on in 2 or 3 seasons, then that's a different kettle of fish but if it's so clear that he isn't up to the job in his first 8 months, then that would suggest that Walters isn't up to the job either.
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Post by potters11 on Sept 21, 2024 21:01:22 GMT
If Pelach doesn't see Christmas or the end of the season, then surely Walters can't remain beyond either of those dates as well. Or are we simply going to let him have another crack at spectacularly fucking up so quickly yet again? His head is on the chopping board with this appointment surely. Obviously if it's time for Pelach to be moved on on in 2 or 3 seasons, then that's a different kettle of fish but if it's so clear that he isn't up to the job in his first 8 months, then that would suggest that Walters isn't up to the job either. Spot on mate! For me if they have to sack Pèlach for footballing reasons between now and May then Walters has to go at the same time! He’s made a huge call and he needs to get it right to keep his job! It’s as simple as that! I have everything crossed both Walters and Pèlach are here this time next year and then we are know we are on the right track. |
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Post by smallthorner on Sept 21, 2024 21:06:20 GMT
If Pelach doesn't see Christmas or the end of the season, then surely Walters can't remain beyond either of those dates as well. Or are we simply going to let him have another crack at spectacularly fucking up so quickly yet again? His head is on the chopping board with this appointment surely. Obviously if it's time for Pelach to be moved on on in 2 or 3 seasons, then that's a different kettle of fish but if it's so clear that he isn't up to the job in his first 8 months, then that would suggest that Walters isn't up to the job either. I don't think even Stoke will have the cahhunas to sack another manager this season. Even if we are struggling they will keep him for this season. They have invested too much credibility in this guy. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 21, 2024 21:41:57 GMT
If Pelach doesn't see Christmas or the end of the season, then surely Walters can't remain beyond either of those dates as well. Or are we simply going to let him have another crack at spectacularly fucking up so quickly yet again? His head is on the chopping board with this appointment surely. Obviously if it's time for Pelach to be moved on on in 2 or 3 seasons, then that's a different kettle of fish but if it's so clear that he isn't up to the job in his first 8 months, then that would suggest that Walters isn't up to the job either. I don't think even Stoke will have the cahhunas to sack another manager this season. Even if we are struggling they will keep him for this season. They have invested too much credibility in this guy. Oh they would bottom in January and he’s replaced with a red Adair |
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Post by lordb on Sept 21, 2024 21:44:29 GMT
I don't think even Stoke will have the cahhunas to sack another manager this season. Even if we are struggling they will keep him for this season. They have invested too much credibility in this guy. Oh they would bottom in January and he’s replaced with a red Adair Definitely, if it goes really badly he's toast as is Walters Could be well before January |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 21, 2024 21:46:45 GMT
If Pelach doesn't see Christmas or the end of the season, then surely Walters can't remain beyond either of those dates as well. Or are we simply going to let him have another crack at spectacularly fucking up so quickly yet again? His head is on the chopping board with this appointment surely. Obviously if it's time for Pelach to be moved on on in 2 or 3 seasons, then that's a different kettle of fish but if it's so clear that he isn't up to the job in his first 8 months, then that would suggest that Walters isn't up to the job either. If this appointment fails Walters is toast, and our next appointment would be an old school manager who oversees everything….. |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 21, 2024 21:59:28 GMT
If Pelach doesn't see Christmas or the end of the season, then surely Walters can't remain beyond either of those dates as well. Or are we simply going to let him have another crack at spectacularly fucking up so quickly yet again? His head is on the chopping board with this appointment surely. Obviously if it's time for Pelach to be moved on on in 2 or 3 seasons, then that's a different kettle of fish but if it's so clear that he isn't up to the job in his first 8 months, then that would suggest that Walters isn't up to the job either. If this appointment fails Walters is toast, and our next appointment would be an old school manager who oversees everything….. Or we tempt another in work manager like corberan. My thoughts are we will end the season with Moyes in charge. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 21, 2024 22:00:57 GMT
If this appointment fails Walters is toast, and our next appointment would be an old school manager who oversees everything….. Or we tempt another in work manager like corberan. My thoughts are we will end the season with Moyes in charge. This new coach will do ok, got a decent feeling about him…. |
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Post by BristolMick on Sept 21, 2024 22:04:37 GMT
If Pelach doesn't see Christmas or the end of the season, then surely Walters can't remain beyond either of those dates as well. Or are we simply going to let him have another crack at spectacularly fucking up so quickly yet again? His head is on the chopping board with this appointment surely. Obviously if it's time for Pelach to be moved on on in 2 or 3 seasons, then that's a different kettle of fish but if it's so clear that he isn't up to the job in his first 8 months, then that would suggest that Walters isn't up to the job either. That’s a very fair point Paul. However it took bollox to do what he’s just done and he is obviously convinced that Schumacher wasn’t going to bring us any success. As others have said though, he didn’t HAVE to make the call that he did, the easy option would be to do nothing and let SS hang himself with his own petard, but of course that would have cost time. I wish we had appointed someone like Pèlach when Alex Neil was sacked. It would have been better timing and chances are he would have been given more than one game to make an impact before being written off! BM |
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 21, 2024 22:07:33 GMT
I don't think Walters' job will be on the line. The idea is that the Director of Football provides long term stability while the head coach takes all of the heat for when things go wrong. The Director of Football worries about long term strategy while the head coach focuses on the shorter term. A model that involves sacking the manager and Director of Football every season is surely just insane?
Look at Sunderland. Whenever I've been on their board, their supporters hate Speakman. He sacks popular managers, appoints duds like Beale, forces the manager to play youth players and doesn't sign the players that the manager wants. Regardless, he's been there for three or four years now and won't be going anywhere any time soon.
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Post by stokefanone on Sept 21, 2024 22:15:25 GMT
It’s early days.
Recent history tells it will go tits up.
But no one knows yet.
We need to see what pelach is made of, next four or five games will give us an idea.
Last night it was individual mistakes which lost us the game, we gifted it to hull.
Certain players were poor, we need to see how pelach reacts to this.
He will have the players for 7 days, he has seen them perform.
How he handles the next game and how the players react to him will tell us much about his character.
I live in hope that he succeeds and gets us moving in the right direction.
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Post by smallthorner on Sept 21, 2024 22:16:40 GMT
Oh they would bottom in January and he’s replaced with a red Adair Definitely, if it goes really badly he's toast as is Walters Could be well before January No... I don't think so. They will give Narky a full season whatever. JC will persevere with SJW regardless. It's going to be ok .. |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 21, 2024 22:49:50 GMT
It's like being in a loveless relationship at the moment, you want to give it up and leave, but some good memories keep you from doing it, hoping they could come back. And just when you think she's too ugly and you're about to call it off, she goes and gets an awesome makeover, new tits, gets down the gym and loses a load of weight... Problem is she's still the same old psycho 😱 |
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