Worried

[Sven]

Very fuckin worried !!!

I'm worried about the sacking of shuey
I'm worried by John Walters
I'm worried by John Coates
I'm worried about the appointment of a totally untried, inexperienced head coach/manager
I'm worried about such a young inexperienced team losing confidence
I'm worried about how unfit we look
I'm worried about our defence
I'm worried about our midfield
I'm worried about our attack
I'm worried it's all about to go even more tits up than the last 6/7 years have been
I'm really fuckin worried

Anyone else really fuckin worried?

[potter25]

Out of that list the most immediate concern is lack of fitness (all the others very valid)

NP has a way of playing where the players need to be very fit

Come 60 mins they were done today

[bayernoatcake]

Not more so than I have been at any other point in the last 7/8 years no.

Same old shit different day.

[march4]

Out of all the candidates to assist our new Head Coach where on Earth did Dean Whitehead come from? Good solid player for TP but no real experience for the job in hand at a Championship club.

[kjpt140v]

Sept 20, 2024 23:22:12 GMT march4 said:

Out of all the candidates to assist our new Head Coach where on Earth did Dean Whitehead come from? Good solid player for TP but no real experience for the job in hand at a Championship club.

He's been coaching for a number of years

[danceswithclams]

I think everyone bar Bobby McFerrin is to be honest.

[pieofpeter]

Sept 20, 2024 23:50:24 GMT kjpt140v said:

Sept 20, 2024 23:22:12 GMT march4 said:

Out of all the candidates to assist our new Head Coach where on Earth did Dean Whitehead come from? Good solid player for TP but no real experience for the job in hand at a Championship club.

He's been coaching for a number of years

This and the manager wanted him probably. He needs all the help he can get!

[turtlefox]

If your biggest worry is football, you're doing fine.

[johnnysoul60]

I had no real issues with Schumacher, SJE would have been my first choice for us but SS would have got us to about 15th, which would have been par for this squad, bit worried now , it's going to be tough for such a young group, tonight was the weakest opposition they will face for a while.
We have got rid of the experienced players and are in for a really tough season, crowd has no patience and neither coach or squad has any real experience.

[potterpaul]

Not worried in the least.

Let's look carefully

We are generally piss poor after International Breaks, something that has been happening during our time in the PL.

We have never really experienced a 'New manager' bounce. Atleast not for a period of time.

Having the 2 phenomenons put side by side is just poor management, Stats don't lie.

[tuum]

I have a fairly relaxed attitude to it all. If we go down then so be it. My biggest concern is how quickly our confidence will crumble if we keep losing. It's not that we are losing in tight games. The fact is we are being taken to the cleaners in every game, especially in the 2nd half.
I don't blame NP for this one but he only has 10 games to get it right and to make us competitive otherwise I fear heads will drop and we may never see any improvement.

[serpico]

It’s worrying given that everything we’ve done the past 6-7 years has turned to crap in pretty short order and this could be the cherry on top of the shit pie! … historically Stoke have always done well under older, more experienced managers, I hope this new guy comes good but can’t help but feel he might be a pound shop Pep! 🫤

[RAF]

I'm worried because my son still defends himself as a Stoke Fan against the multitude of Man City, Man Utd, Liverpool and now the new popular Glory Supporting Cuntfest of Real Madrid none of which have ever been to a game but support (loosely speaking) them none the less!@
Background - Evan was born 11 years ago in March, my Wife had to have an emergency op so I got first skin to skin dibs with the boy, I spent 15 mins singing Pulis Out with him before he was reunited with his Mum!!
Regardless or maybe not regardless he has been
steadfast in his defence of Stoke through his years, and I'm hoping that is due to his affinity to the club and not me telling him he is free to support what ever team he wants to but if he walks into my house with a football shirt that is not a Stoke shirt it will be burnt in the garden.
The nearest he's got is a Sale Sharks top, but considering he plays rugby that is ok.
I'm proud of the lad, he doesn't care how shit we are!@

H

[mrnovember]

I'm not worried. I'm already writing this season off to focus on combining my two other passions of hedge hopping and erotic asphyxiation.

[danceswithclams]

Sept 21, 2024 6:02:29 GMT mrnovember said:

I'm not worried. I'm already writing this season off to focus on combining my two other passions of hedge hopping and erotic asphyxiation.

Did you mean auto-erotic asphyxiation?

I hope so as this makes it sound like you sneak into people's houses and do sex murders.

[Waggy]

I’m worried that who buys the players in could not see we are slow and lethargic in midfield. Perhaps we did need a cundle type after all.

[scfcno1fan]

I’m worried about, if as I expect we are in and around the relegation zone in Jan, that the recruitment just won’t be what we need at all.

Recruitment has been our main downfall that’s for sure.

[hcstokie]

Something I picked up on yesterday in the Walters interview was a quote along the lines of knowing where we are and not expecting this group to challenge for the play offs this season. Whilst I agree that we’re nowhere near that level, the structure of the club means we should have continuity with recruitment. After last summer’s huge rebuild we’ve had another two transfer windows, and we’re seemingly no further forward than before, and arguably worse.

With the complete overhaul since Walters came in, it’s starting to remind me of when a new manager enters a business and wants to make an impression by tearing everything up and starting over. I truly hope he knows what he’s doing.

[Trouserdog]

Didn't take long for reality to hit, did it?

Yet again, we have a squad that's unfit for purpose. There's talent in there, but gaping holes in key areas that will cost us time and time again.

The right back situation is a massive concern. Tchamadeu was signed as a long-term project, and he may well develop into a decent full-back at this level, but he's out of his depth. Other teams are targeting him and we don't have the options in the squad to respond to that. (Who thought we'd miss Gooch?)

It doesn't help that the bloke next to him is Ben Wilmot, who has been crap ever since his back injury (and wasn't much better before that). How many times does he cost us trying to pass the ball out of defence? We have to get Phillips alongside Gibson and pray we never get an injury at CB as I'm absolutely fed up of watching this bloke mess up. Sadly there's an even worse version of him waiting in the wings in the form of Michael Rose.

The centre of midfield should be an area of strength on paper, but it's a disaster zone. Who has kidnapped Wouter Burger and replaced him with the gangly streak of piss we've currently got instead? I've never seen a bloke with his stature struggle so much in physical battles. The only thing he seems to be good at is pushing people in the back after they've managed to get to the ball before him. I thought we had a £10m player on our hands here, but you can knock the zero off based on what we've seen so far.

As for Jordan Thompson...we know he's a League One player, but the fact he still starts so many games is why we are where we are.

The attacking midfield is pretty decent, but there's no depth whatsoever. Manhoef-Junho-Koumas is an exciting trio to watch, and Moran isn't bad either, but there's no cover out wide, so as soon as one of them needs to go off, we're throwing on League Two players to replace them. The drop off is enormous.

But as always, the prize turd in the bowl is the centre forward position. Tom Cannon...fucking hell. An absolute joke of a player. His back-ups are an 18 year-old who wasn't good enough to get off MK Dons' bench last season and Niall Ennis, a bloke who runs around like a dog chasing a balloon. We have absolutely no ability to hold the ball up, and our entire season now rests on Sam Gallagher- a jobbing, injury-prone Championship striker who might, in a good year, score 10 goals.

When we're bumming around the bottom 6 in January (which we will be), Manhoef and Junho will be off, and who can blame them?

Utterly fed up.

[scfcno1fan]

Fully agree.

Especially defensively our recruitment has been a joke.

[chad]

Very worried. I think we’ll be bottom three by next weekend

[Caerwrangonpotter]

We got 99 problems but the pitch aint one

[Caerwrangonpotter]

Oh and honestly who is in charge?

The fool or the fool who follows the fool?

[mamathestriker]

Sept 21, 2024 6:36:41 GMT scfcno1fan said:

Fully agree.

Especially defensively our recruitment has been a joke.

The worst back four since we were last in L1.

[pavel]

Sept 21, 2024 6:35:24 GMT Trouserdog said:

Didn't take long for reality to hit, did it?

Yet again, we have a squad that's unfit for purpose. There's talent in there, but gaping holes in key areas that will cost us time and time again.

The right back situation is a massive concern. Tchamadeu was signed as a long-term project, and he may well develop into a decent full-back at this level, but he's out of his depth. Other teams are targeting him and we don't have the options in the squad to respond to that. (Who thought we'd miss Gooch?)

It doesn't help that the bloke next to him is Ben Wilmot, who has been crap ever since his back injury (and wasn't much better before that). How many times does he cost us trying to pass the ball out of defence? We have to get Phillips alongside Gibson and pray we never get an injury at CB as I'm absolutely fed up of watching this bloke mess up. Sadly there's an even worse version of him waiting in the wings in the form of Michael Rose.

The centre of midfield should be an area of strength on paper, but it's a disaster zone. Who has kidnapped Wouter Burger and replaced him with the gangly streak of piss we've currently got instead? I've never seen a bloke with his stature struggle so much in physical battles. The only thing he seems to be good at is pushing people in the back after they've managed to get to the ball before him. I thought we had a £10m player on our hands here, but you can knock the zero off based on what we've seen so far.

As for Jordan Thompson...we know he's a League One player, but the fact he still starts so many games is why we are where we are.

The attacking midfield is pretty decent, but there's no depth whatsoever. Manhoef-Junho-Koumas is an exciting trio to watch, and Moran isn't bad either, but there's no cover out wide, so as soon as one of them needs to go off, we're throwing on League Two players to replace them. The drop off is enormous.

But as always, the prize turd in the bowl is the centre forward position. Tom Cannon...fucking hell. An absolute joke of a player. His back-ups are an 18 year-old who wasn't good enough to get off MK Dons' bench last season and Niall Ennis, a bloke who runs around like a dog chasing a balloon. We have absolutely no ability to hold the ball up, and our entire season now rests on Sam Gallagher- a jobbing, injury-prone Championship striker who might, in a good year, score 10 goals.

When we're bumming around the bottom 6 in January (which we will be), Manhoef and Junho will be off, and who can blame them?

Utterly fed up.

Can’t argue with much of that, though I think Tezgel is good enough, well to date the best of the bunch. My biggest gripe is we’ve put a completely untried and fairly inexperienced DOF in charge who has then put a completely inexperienced and completely untried head coach in the position. Add that to a brittle set of players with obvious gaps that haven’t been filled and it’s a recipe for disaster.

I thought we were going in the right direction with Schumacher, inconsistent yes, but incrementally improving and certainly, to my mind, not relegation candidates. Then we throw all the balls up in the air again and drop most of them. Worried, absolutely.

[prestwichpotter]

Sept 21, 2024 6:13:04 GMT danceswithclams said:

Sept 21, 2024 6:02:29 GMT mrnovember said:

I'm not worried. I'm already writing this season off to focus on combining my two other passions of hedge hopping and erotic asphyxiation.

Did you mean auto-erotic asphyxiation?

I hope so as this makes it sound like you sneak into people's houses and do sex murders.

That’s where the hedge hopping comes in…..

[s7oke]

Sept 21, 2024 6:35:24 GMT Trouserdog said:

Didn't take long for reality to hit, did it?

Yet again, we have a squad that's unfit for purpose. There's talent in there, but gaping holes in key areas that will cost us time and time again.

The right back situation is a massive concern. Tchamadeu was signed as a long-term project, and he may well develop into a decent full-back at this level, but he's out of his depth. Other teams are targeting him and we don't have the options in the squad to respond to that. (Who thought we'd miss Gooch?)

It doesn't help that the bloke next to him is Ben Wilmot, who has been crap ever since his back injury (and wasn't much better before that). How many times does he cost us trying to pass the ball out of defence? We have to get Phillips alongside Gibson and pray we never get an injury at CB as I'm absolutely fed up of watching this bloke mess up. Sadly there's an even worse version of him waiting in the wings in the form of Michael Rose.

The centre of midfield should be an area of strength on paper, but it's a disaster zone. Who has kidnapped Wouter Burger and replaced him with the gangly streak of piss we've currently got instead? I've never seen a bloke with his stature struggle so much in physical battles. The only thing he seems to be good at is pushing people in the back after they've managed to get to the ball before him. I thought we had a £10m player on our hands here, but you can knock the zero off based on what we've seen so far.

As for Jordan Thompson...we know he's a League One player, but the fact he still starts so many games is why we are where we are.

The attacking midfield is pretty decent, but there's no depth whatsoever. Manhoef-Junho-Koumas is an exciting trio to watch, and Moran isn't bad either, but there's no cover out wide, so as soon as one of them needs to go off, we're throwing on League Two players to replace them. The drop off is enormous.

But as always, the prize turd in the bowl is the centre forward position. Tom Cannon...fucking hell. An absolute joke of a player. His back-ups are an 18 year-old who wasn't good enough to get off MK Dons' bench last season and Niall Ennis, a bloke who runs around like a dog chasing a balloon. We have absolutely no ability to hold the ball up, and our entire season now rests on Sam Gallagher- a jobbing, injury-prone Championship striker who might, in a good year, score 10 goals.

When we're bumming around the bottom 6 in January (which we will be), Manhoef and Junho will be off, and who can blame them?

Utterly fed up.

Totally agree
I’m worried
But also I’m hoping that the new fella can get them fit which is a big ask in a short space of time because they are blowing out of their arses after an hour

I hope he can make them understand tactics because it looks like they have got into the habit of not having any.

I’m hoping he can get the best out of them

I’m hoping he’s a great Spanish manager but he needs a few months I’m afraid unless he is the new messiah which I hope he is

Big gamble appointing him but we needed a change so I’m hoping it pays off

We do have some good players so I’m hoping he can coach them into being a team.

Presently they don’t look like they have seen a tactics board at Stoke or a gym under Schumacher

We can’t get on pelachs back it’s not his fault that he’s inherited an under fit under coached and under strength squad

He has to get them firing and putting chances away and sort out the mayhem at the back then hopefully in January he can balance the squad out

Hopefully Lawal and Phillips will make a difference

And I’m hoping thst Pearson can once again be a shithouse when fit but not a walking red card because let’s face it we need him in the middle because presently it’s boys against men

Biggest thing that he can do presently is make them believe in one another and give them confidence

I think it will all be ok with a fair wind and a barrel load of luck which we are long overdue
So here’s to hoping and not worrying

[delilahwhy]

Sept 21, 2024 6:35:24 GMT Trouserdog said:

Didn't take long for reality to hit, did it?

Yet again, we have a squad that's unfit for purpose. There's talent in there, but gaping holes in key areas that will cost us time and time again.

The right back situation is a massive concern. Tchamadeu was signed as a long-term project, and he may well develop into a decent full-back at this level, but he's out of his depth. Other teams are targeting him and we don't have the options in the squad to respond to that. (Who thought we'd miss Gooch?)

It doesn't help that the bloke next to him is Ben Wilmot, who has been crap ever since his back injury (and wasn't much better before that). How many times does he cost us trying to pass the ball out of defence? We have to get Phillips alongside Gibson and pray we never get an injury at CB as I'm absolutely fed up of watching this bloke mess up. Sadly there's an even worse version of him waiting in the wings in the form of Michael Rose.

The centre of midfield should be an area of strength on paper, but it's a disaster zone. Who has kidnapped Wouter Burger and replaced him with the gangly streak of piss we've currently got instead? I've never seen a bloke with his stature struggle so much in physical battles. The only thing he seems to be good at is pushing people in the back after they've managed to get to the ball before him. I thought we had a £10m player on our hands here, but you can knock the zero off based on what we've seen so far.

As for Jordan Thompson...we know he's a League One player, but the fact he still starts so many games is why we are where we are.

The attacking midfield is pretty decent, but there's no depth whatsoever. Manhoef-Junho-Koumas is an exciting trio to watch, and Moran isn't bad either, but there's no cover out wide, so as soon as one of them needs to go off, we're throwing on League Two players to replace them. The drop off is enormous.

But as always, the prize turd in the bowl is the centre forward position. Tom Cannon...fucking hell. An absolute joke of a player. His back-ups are an 18 year-old who wasn't good enough to get off MK Dons' bench last season and Niall Ennis, a bloke who runs around like a dog chasing a balloon. We have absolutely no ability to hold the ball up, and our entire season now rests on Sam Gallagher- a jobbing, injury-prone Championship striker who might, in a good year, score 10 goals.

When we're bumming around the bottom 6 in January (which we will be), Manhoef and Junho will be off, and who can blame them?

Utterly fed up.

Hopefully the data analyst has all the answers.

Maybe that's why Tezgel came on to play on the right?

It's a brave New world.

[peekay67]

Sept 20, 2024 23:53:05 GMT danceswithclams said:

I think everyone bar Bobby McFerrin is to be honest.

Don't worry. Be happy.

[shrewspotter]

All of the concerns are valid, but add to that why every opposing manager changes tactics 2nd half and it results in themselves doing better and we are either powerless or blind to the fact and therefore cannot halt it