Fitness

[bayernoatcake]

How do we keep producing about the most unfit team in the league?

They ran for about 10 minutes and then looked absolutely fucked.

How do we get it so spectacularly wrong? So consistently.

[Olgrligm]

My understanding was the both Schumacher and Neil were fitness fanatics, but they both left behind teams that struggle to play for 90 minutes*.

*insert your own joke here

[xchpotter]

They are just lazy, lazy arses….been the same for years. No one truly busts a gut and they just amble along. Professionals? Don’t make me laugh.

[pearo]

The reason we lack fitness is that Super Jon employed the physio who was there when he was a player, unfortunately that physio is from the old school philosophy. When we get to 2 games a week over the winter months we will have numerous muscular injuries.

[bayernoatcake]

Sept 20, 2024 21:01:39 GMT xchpotter said:

They are just lazy, lazy arses….been the same for years. No one truly busts a gut and they just amble along. Professionals? Don’t make me laugh.

They were genuinely knackered.

It wasn’t laziness.

[terryconroysmagic]

Sept 20, 2024 21:03:27 GMT pearo said:

The reason we lack fitness is that Super Jon employed the physio who was there when he was a player, unfortunately that physio is from the old school philosophy. When we get to 2 games a week over the winter months we will have numerous muscular injuries.

That’s bollocks, they were the same last season

In fact it’s been the same since relegation

[Biblical]

Sept 20, 2024 20:50:41 GMT bayernoatcake said:

How do we keep producing about the most unfit team in the league?

They ran for about 10 minutes and then looked absolutely fucked.

How do we get it so spectacularly wrong? So consistently.

It’s happened with every new manager as welll.

Jones, Neil, and Schuey all said they’d get them super fit and playing high octane football.

When we try it we’re fucked after 10-15 mins.

[PottersBrim]

They didn’t look knackered to me - none of them were out on their feet at 90 minutes.
Tactical naivety and an overall lack of effort look much bigger issues.

[bayernoatcake]

Sept 20, 2024 21:41:34 GMT Biblical said:

Sept 20, 2024 20:50:41 GMT bayernoatcake said:

How do we keep producing about the most unfit team in the league?

They ran for about 10 minutes and then looked absolutely fucked.

How do we get it so spectacularly wrong? So consistently.

It’s happened with every new manager as welll.

Jones, Neil, and Schuey all said they’d get them super fit and playing high octane football.

When we try it we’re fucked after 10-15 mins.

And we did do it for 10 minutes then it went flat and they were fucked.

It’s so bad. I don’t expect them to do what they were doing for that first 10 all game but we were clearly dead after 35 minutes.

That’s just not acceptable.

[superpotter]

It’s because they arnt very good so they chase about trying to get the ball then lose it again all very knackering .

[Trouserdog]

Every game we're fucked by the time the second half starts.

Disgrace.

[Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet]

Shawcross and Morris played the first team three days ago, against league two opposition, and still didn't win. The squad looks absolutely paper thin too. They were knackered tonight but had no decent options to change the game from the bench.

[crouchpotato1]

There’s no way the set of players on that pitch tonight can play the pressing game for 100 minutes,they were bollocksed after 40 minutes and it was noticeable from my seat behind the dugout that Koumas was constantly being bollocked by the manager and Whitehead for switching off

[bayernoatcake]

Sept 20, 2024 22:27:32 GMT crouchpotato1 said:

There’s no way the set of players on that pitch tonight can play the pressing game for 100 minutes,they were bollocksed after 40 minutes and it was noticeable from my seat behind the dugout that Koumas was constantly being bollocked by the manager and Whitehead for switching off

Koumas shouldn’t have started.

He was fucked after 60 minutes on Tuesday.

[GarySCFC]

Perhaps running up mountains is the way forward....

My we look so out of condition it's frightening. Hence why we always switch off. Not physically fit in body and mind. That hull team were vastly fitter all through the game.

Schuey wouldn't have made much difference either tonight.

[LGH87]

Sept 20, 2024 22:27:32 GMT crouchpotato1 said:

There’s no way the set of players on that pitch tonight can play the pressing game for 100 minutes,they were bollocksed after 40 minutes and it was noticeable from my seat behind the dugout that Koumas was constantly being bollocked by the manager and Whitehead for switching off

Fuck me, what were they saying to cannon then?

At least Koumas actually offered a threat.

[mickeythemaestro]

We haven't had a fit side since Pulis. Fact..

[Mars]

It didn't seem like a fitness issue to me, more that they didn't look sure what they were supposed to do and then stopped committing to it as a result

[mickeythemaestro]

They need ragging up that hill at Clayton bank for a month before they even get back on that training pitch.

[crouchpotato1]

Sept 20, 2024 22:40:53 GMT LGH87 said:

Sept 20, 2024 22:27:32 GMT crouchpotato1 said:

There’s no way the set of players on that pitch tonight can play the pressing game for 100 minutes,they were bollocksed after 40 minutes and it was noticeable from my seat behind the dugout that Koumas was constantly being bollocked by the manager and Whitehead for switching off

Fuck me, what were they saying to cannon then?

At least Koumas actually offered a threat.

He was getting told as well mate but not as much as Koumas

[boskampsflaps]

It's desire not fitness.

[turtlefox]

Sept 20, 2024 21:41:18 GMT terryconroysmagic said:

Sept 20, 2024 21:03:27 GMT pearo said:

The reason we lack fitness is that Super Jon employed the physio who was there when he was a player, unfortunately that physio is from the old school philosophy. When we get to 2 games a week over the winter months we will have numerous muscular injuries.

That’s bollocks, they were the same last season

In fact it’s been the same since relegation

True, but it's a great theory.

[bayernoatcake]

Sept 20, 2024 22:42:34 GMT Mars said:

It didn't seem like a fitness issue to me, more that they didn't look sure what they were supposed to do and then stopped committing to it as a result

Disagree.

Thought the first 10 minutes we were pressing with purpose and as a unit and then they just couldn’t keep that up.

[wakeypotter]

Well that wasn’t a good 2nd half in fact the night altogether has turned out shit. A hour to get out of hotel car park and After a diversion on the a50 I’ve had to stop at derby mcds to charge my bloody milk cart up. Still a hour from home.
Bayern got it bang on the fitness levels are no where near good enough. I thought ss was going to give them a pre season from hell. My arse he has.
What that second half was I don’t know but they were fucked.

To top it off after full time our own fans in the safe standing were booing NP off I mean what the fuck.
Some of our fans are just the fucking pits

[stokesupporter]

Too many of them are still kids who should be playing U21's.

[starkiller]

Forget Dubai breaks. They need to be in the Highlands or somewhere, copying scenes from the Rocky 4 training montage.

[clivey05]

They all looked absolutely knackered 2nd half. Can’t believe Shawcross was allowed to play so many players on Tuesday that were going to play again tonight.
By the looks of it Weds/thurs were pretty intense training days aswell.

[peekay67]

Sept 21, 2024 1:00:45 GMT starkiller said:

Forget Dubai breaks. They need to be in the Highlands or somewhere, copying scenes from the Rocky 4 training montage.

Pen-y- Fan in Wales where the SAS recruitment is decided. Brutal. Hard to walk it never mind quicker. Perfect stamina training.

[roylandstoke]

Sept 20, 2024 22:42:31 GMT mickeythemaestro said:

We haven't had a fit side since Pulis. Fact..

That side that kept finishing top half of the world’s most demanding league would have been champions if they’d only been fit.

[mickeythemaestro]

Sept 21, 2024 11:30:12 GMT roylandstoke said:

Sept 20, 2024 22:42:31 GMT mickeythemaestro said:

We haven't had a fit side since Pulis. Fact..

That side that kept finishing top half of the world’s most demanding league would have been champions if they’d only been fit.

I don't follow what you're saying.