Nonum
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Post by Nonum on Sept 19, 2024 17:00:43 GMT
Press conference has started - Narcis and Walters www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-narcis-pelach-live-9556516Handshakes all roundNarcis Pelach goes around the room shaking hands, followed by Jon Walters and John Coates. Why Stoke?Pelach: Good question! The first moment we met I could feel something going on. I felt a different energy. I saw in Jon and Johns' eyes that they wanted to do something totally different. It's difficult to find that as a young coach. It's a great opportunity. I'm very happy to be part of Stoke City. Why Narcis?Walters: It'll speak for itself in the coming months. It's not a decision taken quickly. How has today gone?Pelach: The players were exceptional to me, very nice. What have you said to the players?Pelach: I've said it's important to have a style of play and structure. Winning doesn't come easy, you need a structure. Wins will come and momentum will come as long as you have a style of play that's strong. It's simple to say and difficult to do. Why should fans be excited?Pelach: It isn't about it coming from them to us, it's about from us to them. It's a lot of effort to follow Stoke away. We have to be responsible. We're very fortunate to be where we are, playing for Stoke, coaching for Stoke, and we have to make sure everyone in the stadium knows it's a new beginning. Win, lose or draw we will fight with energy and spirit. Have you heard of Stokelona?Pelach: Girona not Barcelona! I talked to Bojan and Marc Muniesa, had a good chat with both, we're good friends. They have amazing memories, they talk about the club. They are going to come and visit us and maybe stay to watch training and games. They made me feel secure, wishing I do well for Stoke and maybe Stoke has good memories again. Why Narcis? Walters: It'll speak for itself in the coming months. It's not a decision taken quickly. Most interesting bit - not a decision taken quickly. Approaching him same day manger is sacked is pretty damn quickly unless as others have said this has been simmering in the background for a while now. |
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Post by stokief on Sept 19, 2024 17:03:33 GMT
Why the anger for Walters? Because he has put our club at risk by appointing a random rookie A random Rookie who has, however, been coaching in the very league that we're in for the past 4/5 years under various managers some of whom on here are viewed as being successful. We're looking to him as a Coach NOT a manager so it's kind of him being given job that he's qualified for isn't it?! I'd say possibly more so than a nice bloke who'd managed a League 1 team only before. Anyways, time will tell. I trust also that Walters ,having played at the highest level, achieved his coaching badges and a Masters in Sports directorship is likely in a better place to know what is required than any of us! One last thing, we don't know what other offers may have been made to our 'Random Rookie' re: Head Coach positions but maybe this one was the best fit for him. He seems like an very intelligent guy so I doubt he'd make random choices about his career progression and would wait until he felt ready for the next step. It's a big step, there are huge possibilities/outcomes either way but he's our 'Random Rookie' now and I rather like the cut of his jib. |
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Post by smallthorner on Sept 19, 2024 17:09:09 GMT
Walters was on trial a few months ago before being confirmed as SD. I can't believe he has sacked SS, this must have been done by the owners. Walters would certainly have had an input but the decision has been made above him. If the owners have given the decision too Walters then JC looks like he's got the management skills of Basil Fawlty. Nah... It's got Walter's fingerprints all over it. He's picked out Pelach weeks ago and waited for SS to hang himself. You can bet the vibes were going through to the players as well. Oxford performance more or less down tools. Got a strange feeling Gibson has done some whispering as well. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 19, 2024 17:10:26 GMT
Because he has put our club at risk by appointing a random rookie A random Rookie who has, however, been coaching in the very league that we're in for the past 4/5 years under various managers some of whom on here are viewed as being successful. We're looking to him as a Coach NOT a manager so it's kind of him being given job that he's qualified for isn't it?! I'd say possibly more so than a nice bloke who'd managed a League 1 team only before. Anyways, time will tell. I trust also that Walters ,having played at the highest level, achieved his coaching badges and a Masters in Sports directorship is likely in a better place to know what is required than any of us! One last thing, we don't know what other offers may have been made to our 'Random Rookie' re: Head Coach positions but maybe this one was the best fit for him. He seems like an very intelligent guy so I doubt he'd make random choices about his career progression and would wait until he felt ready for the next step. It's a big step, there are huge possibilities/outcomes either way but he's our 'Random Rookie' now and I rather like the cut of his jib. Think that's fair enough. However daft as it sounds this job is a massive job compared to anything he's been used to. And the shambolic way we've been run the last 6 years makes it all the more difficult and bigger. And some fans are thinking that the way Schumacher has been treated makes it that bit more tricky given its unsettled the fan base I hope he has the mettle for it. Time will as the saying goes tell. |
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Sept 19, 2024 17:13:29 GMT
Why the anger for Walters? Because he has put our club at risk by appointing a random rookie Any appointment is a risk but I guess it is undue risk. To be fair, Rowett seamed the least risky. MON very risky and with hindsight did well. Jones was risky and it showed. There are too many variables for success. Let's see what happens annld after Christmas judge the level of risk. |
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Post by chamberlain on Sept 19, 2024 17:16:01 GMT
Walters was on trial a few months ago before being confirmed as SD. I can't believe he has sacked SS, this must have been done by the owners. Walters would certainly have had an input but the decision has been made above him. If the owners have given the decision too Walters then JC looks like he's got the management skills of Basil Fawlty. Nah... It's got Walter's fingerprints all over it. He's picked out Pelach weeks ago and waited for SS to hang himself. You can bet the vibes were going through to the players as well. Oxford performance more or less down tools. Got a strange feeling Gibson has done some whispering as well. All of your points are guess work |
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Post by retrostoke on Sept 19, 2024 17:18:09 GMT
So several weeks ago Walters was being slammed for our lack of incoming transfers.
That went on for a while and we were all getting a bit twitchy. In my opinion he eventually delivered. Without panic buys. He landed some pretty decent players.
On the basis of that I’m prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt on all activities this week. He may have landed us a very special coach here, he may not but he seems to know what/who he wants and my only evidence so far is the squad he has put together. I think he has done well with that so 🤞
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Post by smallthorner on Sept 19, 2024 17:19:00 GMT
Nah... It's got Walter's fingerprints all over it. He's picked out Pelach weeks ago and waited for SS to hang himself. You can bet the vibes were going through to the players as well. Oxford performance more or less down tools. Got a strange feeling Gibson has done some whispering as well. All of your points are guess work Everything on this subject is guesswork mate. |
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Post by thisisouryear on Sept 19, 2024 17:19:38 GMT
Press conference has started - Narcis and Walters www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-narcis-pelach-live-9556516Handshakes all roundNarcis Pelach goes around the room shaking hands, followed by Jon Walters and John Coates. Why Stoke?Pelach: Good question! The first moment we met I could feel something going on. I felt a different energy. I saw in Jon and Johns' eyes that they wanted to do something totally different. It's difficult to find that as a young coach. It's a great opportunity. I'm very happy to be part of Stoke City. Why Narcis?Walters: It'll speak for itself in the coming months. It's not a decision taken quickly. How has today gone?Pelach: The players were exceptional to me, very nice. What have you said to the players?Pelach: I've said it's important to have a style of play and structure. Winning doesn't come easy, you need a structure. Wins will come and momentum will come as long as you have a style of play that's strong. It's simple to say and difficult to do. Why should fans be excited?Pelach: It isn't about it coming from them to us, it's about from us to them. It's a lot of effort to follow Stoke away. We have to be responsible. We're very fortunate to be where we are, playing for Stoke, coaching for Stoke, and we have to make sure everyone in the stadium knows it's a new beginning. Win, lose or draw we will fight with energy and spirit. Have you heard of Stokelona?Pelach: Girona not Barcelona! I talked to Bojan and Marc Muniesa, had a good chat with both, we're good friends. They have amazing memories, they talk about the club. They are going to come and visit us and maybe stay to watch training and games. They made me feel secure, wishing I do well for Stoke and maybe Stoke has good memories again. Why Narcis? Walters: It'll speak for itself in the coming months. It's not a decision taken quickly. Most interesting bit - not a decision taken quickly. Approaching him same day manger is sacked is pretty damn quickly unless as others have said this has been simmering in the background for a while now. Schumacher never stood a chance when people who were meant to be supporting him were working behind the scenes to get rid of him and his team. It probably affected performances because people know when something isn't right |
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Post by smallthorner on Sept 19, 2024 17:25:58 GMT
Stokealona on Central news.
SJW looking cool, handsome and confident.
Marc and Bojan coming over !!
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 19, 2024 17:27:30 GMT
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Sept 19, 2024 17:41:08 GMT
Why Narcis? Walters: It'll speak for itself in the coming months. It's not a decision taken quickly. Most interesting bit - not a decision taken quickly. Approaching him same day manger is sacked is pretty damn quickly unless as others have said this has been simmering in the background for a while now. Schumacher never stood a chance when people who were meant to be supporting him were working behind the scenes to get rid of him and his team. It probably affected performances because people know when something isn't right Every single time we've sacked a manager this forum has been in uproar that we've got no plan in place for who to replace him with. This time around we have had a plan in place (Thanks to clueless, inexperienced, out-of-his-depth Jon Walters) yet still people are in uproar. The club really can't win. |
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Post by lordb on Sept 19, 2024 17:42:33 GMT
Because he has put our club at risk by appointing a random rookie A random Rookie who has, however, been coaching in the very league that we're in for the past 4/5 years under various managers some of whom on here are viewed as being successful. We're looking to him as a Coach NOT a manager so it's kind of him being given job that he's qualified for isn't it?! I'd say possibly more so than a nice bloke who'd managed a League 1 team only before. Anyways, time will tell. I trust also that Walters ,having played at the highest level, achieved his coaching badges and a Masters in Sports directorship is likely in a better place to know what is required than any of us! One last thing, we don't know what other offers may have been made to our 'Random Rookie' re: Head Coach positions but maybe this one was the best fit for him. He seems like an very intelligent guy so I doubt he'd make random choices about his career progression and would wait until he felt ready for the next step. It's a big step, there are huge possibilities/outcomes either way but he's our 'Random Rookie' now and I rather like the cut of his jib. He's picking the team - I assume - he's absolutely a random rookie it's an enormous an unnecessary gamble If he does well fantastic but surely everyone should be concerned someone with such limited credentials has got a Head Coach job in The Championship |
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Post by lordb on Sept 19, 2024 17:43:11 GMT
Schumacher never stood a chance when people who were meant to be supporting him were working behind the scenes to get rid of him and his team. It probably affected performances because people know when something isn't right Every single time we've sacked a manager this forum has been in uproar that we've got no plan in place for who to replace him with. This time around we have had a plan in place (Thanks to clueless, inexperienced, out-of-his-depth Jon Walters) yet still people are in uproar. The club really can't win. What plan? I don't see a plan |
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Post by Goonie on Sept 19, 2024 17:43:41 GMT
I feel more optimistic now than I did last week
Time will tell whether it's genius or madness
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Post by smallthorner on Sept 19, 2024 17:55:51 GMT
It's pretty obvious SJW is running the Club now.
I'm kinda OK with that.
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Post by stokiemac on Sept 19, 2024 17:59:59 GMT
Apparently one of the jobs he turned down was Lommel SK in Belgium which is part of the City Group (Man City) seems they wanted to get him back in house and rate him highly. Starting to think we might have actually done our homework and this appointment is more brave than stupid
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Post by clarkeda on Sept 19, 2024 18:01:41 GMT
It really feels like the final roll of the dice ,going foreign at last. If this fails and we are looking for another HC in less than 12 months I think it proves once and for all Jon Coates isn't capable of overseeing a football club. I don't think it's going to be dull ! I worry if this one goes wrong we’ll go full circle and it’ll be Dyche or another really really pragmatic type. |
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Post by chiswickpotter on Sept 19, 2024 18:02:40 GMT
A random Rookie who has, however, been coaching in the very league that we're in for the past 4/5 years under various managers some of whom on here are viewed as being successful. We're looking to him as a Coach NOT a manager so it's kind of him being given job that he's qualified for isn't it?! I'd say possibly more so than a nice bloke who'd managed a League 1 team only before. Anyways, time will tell. I trust also that Walters ,having played at the highest level, achieved his coaching badges and a Masters in Sports directorship is likely in a better place to know what is required than any of us! One last thing, we don't know what other offers may have been made to our 'Random Rookie' re: Head Coach positions but maybe this one was the best fit for him. He seems like an very intelligent guy so I doubt he'd make random choices about his career progression and would wait until he felt ready for the next step. It's a big step, there are huge possibilities/outcomes either way but he's our 'Random Rookie' now and I rather like the cut of his jib. He's picking the team - I assume - he's absolutely a random rookie it's an enormous an unnecessary gamble If he does well fantastic but surely everyone should be concerned someone with such limited credentials has got a Head Coach job in The Championship I agree it is a big gamble. But one worth taking. We were going nowhere. Everyone who was at Watford and Oxford knows we were miles off the level required to compete in this league, absolutely miles in selection, motivation, tactics & substitutions. We are way too open and fragile with no attacking plan. It may relegate us but we needed to move for a coach who can improve individuals as well as the team, no sign SS was that. Junior, Bae, Burger, Pearson, Maaee, Vidigal all went backwards under him. |
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Post by sticky on Sept 19, 2024 18:04:44 GMT
What’s the thinking on where we need to finnish to keep his job (surely we can’t sack another one) are we looking at mid table as a minimum? Or are JW and JC expecting playoffs Has to be top half doesn’t it? you’d of thought so but surely can’t sack him unless it’s really really bad🤷🏼♂️ |
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Post by clarkeda on Sept 19, 2024 18:10:36 GMT
Anything interesting been said?
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Sept 19, 2024 18:10:52 GMT
I think he might be a good young foreign coach.
I also think that Stoke is a totally poisoned chalice to manage at the moment in an incredibly competitive league.
We have a bunch of talented but very young players with not a lot of backbone.
It might turn out amazing, but based upon recent history this could be a total car crash.
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 19, 2024 18:11:55 GMT
Every single time we've sacked a manager this forum has been in uproar that we've got no plan in place for who to replace him with. This time around we have had a plan in place (Thanks to clueless, inexperienced, out-of-his-depth Jon Walters) yet still people are in uproar. The club really can't win. What plan? I don't see a plan You can’t see it because you have your Schumacher specs on |
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Sept 19, 2024 18:12:50 GMT
One more thing I will say on this, I've been sick of the club dithering and arsing about with decisions pretty much since Coates retook over all those years ago - and I'm pretty sure a lot of people feel the same way.
Granted this was very much out of the blue and trigger pulling cranked up all the way to 11, but the optimist in me thinks it could be the first sign of us acting preemptively rather than reactively.
I just want this to be good. I'm so fed up of us being shit.
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 19, 2024 18:14:31 GMT
It's pretty obvious SJW is running the Club now. I'm kinda OK with that. This is what most fans were calling for someone to come in and run the club and now they have done it people moan because JW is running the club. They need to make there mind up |
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Post by dutchstokie on Sept 19, 2024 18:14:35 GMT
Anything interesting been said? Pelach not a big lover of oatcakes apparently !!! That in itself is a sackable offence 😀 |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 19, 2024 18:16:25 GMT
Anything interesting been said? Pelach not a big lover of oatcakes apparently !!! That in itself is a sackable offence 😀 He's fucked 😆 |
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Post by onepara on Sept 19, 2024 18:17:01 GMT
Walters was on trial a few months ago before being confirmed as SD. I can't believe he has sacked SS, this must have been done by the owners. Walters would certainly have had an input but the decision has been made above him. If the owners have given the decision too Walters then JC looks like he's got the management skills of Basil Fawlty. Nah... It's got Walter's fingerprints all over it. He's picked out Pelach weeks ago and waited for SS to hang himself. You can bet the vibes were going through to the players as well. Oxford performance more or less down tools. Got a strange feeling Gibson has done some whispering as well. All this supposition on here by so-called sensible people. I just hope that if I'm on trial, that I don't get any of you "supposers" on the jury. Guilty before tried. |
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Post by nonameface on Sept 19, 2024 18:18:16 GMT
Has anyone found a way to read sentinel articles? Like the adverts have made it so it’s literally the last source of information I’d use about us, and that’s with Pete Smith being an excellent writer too. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 19, 2024 18:18:49 GMT
Nah... It's got Walter's fingerprints all over it. He's picked out Pelach weeks ago and waited for SS to hang himself. You can bet the vibes were going through to the players as well. Oxford performance more or less down tools. Got a strange feeling Gibson has done some whispering as well. All this supposition on here by so-called sensible people. I just hope that if I'm on trial, that I don't get any of you "supposers" on the jury. Guilty before tried. Supported World of Twist did The Supposers 😉 |
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