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Post by pushon on Sept 19, 2024 15:20:56 GMT
I've felt for a while that a lot of Stoke fans call for people to fail just so they can self inflate their egos if it does happen. We write managers, players off before they've even had a chance most the time, even Hughes was called to be sacked before giving us what was nothing short of a great 3 years playing some of the best football any Stoke team has ever played, Obviously sad how it ended up. But fucking hell, at least give the bloke a decent handful of games to put his stamp on it and judge then. It's nothing so with wanting him to fail. It's the exact opposite of the point your making. 99% of fans would want Schumacher in charge still. Can you provide some evidence of the poll result please, preferably Without the profanity. |
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Post by stokefanone on Sept 19, 2024 15:28:12 GMT
Talks the talk.
Got to say, if he can get the place back to being a United club, playing with pride and passion, he has my backing!
That has to come before we can get any success.
Good luck NP👍
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Post by stokeoptimist on Sept 19, 2024 15:37:49 GMT
Just remember Friday night we are not there for any single player member of staff or the hierarchy. We are there for us and our club so that’s all that matters. There’s no loyalty in football apart from the fans we all need to remember that and be positive. They'll get full support during the 90. But if we lose Walters and Mr Burns will be getting it at full time. That doesn't make any sense as Schumachers team will still be playing tommorow. No coach is going to make a difference in only two days. So actually if they lose then JW will be vindicated won't he? |
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Post by march4 on Sept 19, 2024 15:43:55 GMT
Even Liz Truss lasted 50 days. |
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Post by questionable on Sept 19, 2024 15:51:09 GMT
Not arsed whatsoever about SS going but why didn’t we replace him just before the international break still mystifies me, his replacement would have been well known weeks ago,
It’s almost as if the next defeat was trigger time
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 19, 2024 15:51:44 GMT
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Post by delilahwhy on Sept 19, 2024 16:04:33 GMT
Very much the Jon Walters show. |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Sept 19, 2024 16:04:56 GMT
I dont agree with the decision taken this week but sone of the shit getting thrown at JW is way over the top IMO As Ive said on another thread theres 2 DOFs that schu clearly coukdnt work with That's nonsense, he was at Glastonbury with the Plymouth lot. I know this as fact because I bumped into them at the front of Dua Lipa and gave Schuey and that Neil Dewsnip a tab of acid. We partied all night and then bumped into Carol Shanahan passing biftas round at the Stone Circle. She had the munchies and was gobbling on 37 gourmet cheese toasties she'd just bought. Im on about JW and Tricky Dicky Martin |
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Post by pavel on Sept 19, 2024 16:06:24 GMT
Very much the Jon Walters show. Shouldn’t be. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 19, 2024 16:08:36 GMT
Very much the Jon Walters show. The new head coach and the man he reports to. Nothing to see here...... |
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Post by lordb on Sept 19, 2024 16:10:04 GMT
That's nonsense, he was at Glastonbury with the Plymouth lot. I know this as fact because I bumped into them at the front of Dua Lipa and gave Schuey and that Neil Dewsnip a tab of acid. We partied all night and then bumped into Carol Shanahan passing biftas round at the Stone Circle. She had the munchies and was gobbling on 37 gourmet cheese toasties she'd just bought. Im on about JW and Tricky Dicky Martin Surely not getting on with Ricky Martin is a big plus! |
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Post by milky on Sept 19, 2024 16:13:24 GMT
It really feels like the final roll of the dice ,going foreign at last.
If this fails and we are looking for another HC in less than 12 months I think it proves once and for all Jon Coates isn't capable of overseeing a football club.
I don't think it's going to be dull !
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Post by lordb on Sept 19, 2024 16:13:31 GMT
Press conference has started - Narcis and Walters www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-narcis-pelach-live-9556516Handshakes all roundNarcis Pelach goes around the room shaking hands, followed by Jon Walters and John Coates. Why Stoke?Pelach: Good question! The first moment we met I could feel something going on. I felt a different energy. I saw in Jon and Johns' eyes that they wanted to do something totally different. It's difficult to find that as a young coach. It's a great opportunity. I'm very happy to be part of Stoke City. Why Narcis?Walters: It'll speak for itself in the coming months. It's not a decision taken quickly. How has today gone?Pelach: The players were exceptional to me, very nice. What have you said to the players?Pelach: I've said it's important to have a style of play and structure. Winning doesn't come easy, you need a structure. Wins will come and momentum will come as long as you have a style of play that's strong. It's simple to say and difficult to do. Why should fans be excited?Pelach: It isn't about it coming from them to us, it's about from us to them. It's a lot of effort to follow Stoke away. We have to be responsible. We're very fortunate to be where we are, playing for Stoke, coaching for Stoke, and we have to make sure everyone in the stadium knows it's a new beginning. Win, lose or draw we will fight with energy and spirit. Have you heard of Stokelona?Pelach: Girona not Barcelona! I talked to Bojan and Marc Muniesa, had a good chat with both, we're good friends. They have amazing memories, they talk about the club. They are going to come and visit us and maybe stay to watch training and games. They made me feel secure, wishing I do well for Stoke and maybe Stoke has good memories again. Standard stuff (not a criticism just how these things are) however the Muniesa/Bojan stuff is interesting |
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 19, 2024 16:14:09 GMT
Very much the Jon Walters show. 😂😂 |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Sept 19, 2024 16:14:13 GMT
Im on about JW and Tricky Dicky Martin Surely not getting on with Ricky Martin is a big plus! Yeah I got that one, its the relationship with JW I struggle to get! |
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Post by lordb on Sept 19, 2024 16:14:43 GMT
It really feels like the final roll of the dice ,going foreign at last. If this fails and we are looking for another HC in less than 12 months I think it proves once and for all Jon Coates isn't capable of overseeing a football club. I don't think it's going to be dull ! It's not the foreign but it's the elevation from one of the coaches at Norwich to head coach here It's surreal |
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 19, 2024 16:16:05 GMT
Very much the Jon Walters show. The new head coach and the man he reports to. Nothing to see here...... Exactly....I don't know what some people are seeing here. DoF is always present at the unveiling of a new manager. It's his job to be there as he is responsible for the appointment. Some ridiculous stuff going on this board even by its own standards. |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Sept 19, 2024 16:16:07 GMT
That’s simply not true. You obviously don’t watch our away matches. 99% is too much, but I bet a big majority didn't want him to go. But he's gone now, let's reseve our anger for Walters and our support for Pelach Why the anger for Walters? |
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Post by mattador78 on Sept 19, 2024 16:17:26 GMT
It's nothing so with wanting him to fail. It's the exact opposite of the point your making. 99% of fans would want Schumacher in charge still. Utter nonsense! I was surprised he was sacked but he’s hardly been great for us. I didn’t want to ever see a repeat of the Oxford outing! I’ve longed for us to get a foreign coach and I’m delighted we have. Yes it’s a gamble but an exciting one. I’m very much looking forward to seeing how he gets on and I can assure you there’s far more than 1% of us that feel the same! I watched the Oxford game and it felt like a performance under Jordan after Lou . It wasn’t good it wasn’t bad it was just soulless. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 19, 2024 16:17:41 GMT
Would you care to explain why? SS came in because we were in a mess. We were hovering just above the bottom 3 by about 2 points throughout Nov and December, before he was appointed. Okay it took a while to turn things around because of the situation. He eventually identified our best players and MM came in and he got Cundle on loan. He turned things around and we won important games at Hull, Preston and Soton as well as the 6 pointer against Plymouth. The Bristol City win was as good as I've seen Stoke play at home since relegation. After 5 wins including a record scoring away win and I believe the youngest ever starting line up at Plymouth. Things were looking up. It's well known that Walters and him were at odds. This cost him his job. People may say it was the Oxford game that did it. They had made the decision to sack him weeks before that. Now The decision to appoint this Spanish guy is bizzare in the extreme because going by his CV he'd be lucky to get a job manging in league two if he applied for one. So yes, I feel we are back to square one. A serious set back. Also, the way they've gone about it is not my Stoke City. Schumacher was stabbed in the back and he is quite rightly upset and annoyed. We do now have some very good young players, so if they have just appointed a head coach who has no say in the players bought for him or even being allowed to pick the team then this won't end well. I believe the people at club read social media too much. They seriously need to ignore it. Stoke fans turn on a sixpence and after every bad result go overboard with their reaction. I'll leave it at that and won't comment about it anymore, what's done is done. I accept your points particularly regarding the work Schumacher had done but although I backed him to be given at least till January I was beginning to wonder why we never built on good performances mainly because he always changed a team which performed well. I can understand that Walters may have not liked what he was seeing in training and in selections but totally agree that the way this has been handled leaves a bitter taste and he has divided the support he was so keen to unite which seems strange. For some strange reason though I am quite optimistic that this new coach can come in simplify tactics and as he says find a system that works and is understood by the players. I like the fact that he talks about needing different systems during a game and need to know how to attack a low block once we go a goal down. I think he has spotted and will try to address two of our main failings over the past 6 years - game management,(we should never have conceded a goal from a corner in injury time against a league one team, nor should we concede in the first five minutes of either half) and finding away past a packed defence. If he can change these the club will have made progress. |
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Post by lordb on Sept 19, 2024 16:20:18 GMT
99% is too much, but I bet a big majority didn't want him to go. But he's gone now, let's reseve our anger for Walters and our support for Pelach Why the anger for Walters? Because he has put our club at risk by appointing a random rookie |
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Post by stokedinohio on Sept 19, 2024 16:20:20 GMT
where have all the people gone who wanted someone young and foreign with something to prove I'm right here. After so many pasty types, you've got to get some swarth on that pitch. |
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 19, 2024 16:21:22 GMT
Very much the Jon Walters show. 😂😂 A cameraman is actually featured more in this shot that JW. He must be pulling all the strings behind the scene eh? Slimy Bastard! |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Sept 19, 2024 16:24:42 GMT
Why the anger for Walters? Because he has put our club at risk by appointing a random rookie Surely youve got to give it chance to work first What if its a great success? |
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Post by Los Alfareros on Sept 19, 2024 16:26:45 GMT
I suppose what it just boils down to is that JW see's longer term success in the hands of NP than SS.
He will, of course, have to be given time.
Would SS have taken us to the next level? We will never know.
Anyway, it's done, let's get behind NP and the lad's and you never know!!
WBWY
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Post by pushon on Sept 19, 2024 16:32:04 GMT
Why the anger for Walters? Because he has put our club at risk by appointing a random rookie I note your scepticism, but why is he a random appointment? We have no idea how much due diligence was employed prior to his appointment. |
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 19, 2024 16:33:01 GMT
A cameraman is actually featured more in this shot that JW. He must be pulling all the strings behind the scene eh? Slimy Bastard! Yeh what a tosser that Jon Walters is fancy have stokes best interest at heart. How dare he |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 19, 2024 16:39:04 GMT
Because he has put our club at risk by appointing a random rookie I note your scepticism, but why is he a random appointment? We have no idea how much due diligence was employed prior to his appointment. I bet me dinner not one person on this board had heard of him before to be fair. So fairly random yeah. |
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Post by stokesupporter on Sept 19, 2024 16:45:50 GMT
Looks like he also sings? Hold the line!
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Post by geoff321 on Sept 19, 2024 16:57:12 GMT
Walters was on trial a few months ago before being confirmed as SD. I can't believe he has sacked SS, this must have been done by the owners.
Walters would certainly have had an input but the decision has been made above him.
If the owners have given the decision too Walters then JC looks like he's got the management skills of Basil Fawlty.
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