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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 19, 2024 13:21:44 GMT
I've felt for a while that a lot of Stoke fans call for people to fail just so they can self inflate their egos if it does happen. We write managers, players off before they've even had a chance most the time, even Hughes was called to be sacked before giving us what was nothing short of a great 3 years playing some of the best football any Stoke team has ever played, Obviously sad how it ended up. But fucking hell, at least give the bloke a decent handful of games to put his stamp on it and judge then. People didn't want Pulis both times he arrived. Red card protests. Protest from a fella who wore women's shirts |
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Post by wonderwall on Sept 19, 2024 13:24:12 GMT
Who was the nob in that van when sparkie arrived?
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Post by starkiller on Sept 19, 2024 13:25:40 GMT
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Post by mattador78 on Sept 19, 2024 13:29:40 GMT
Just remember Friday night we are not there for any single player member of staff or the hierarchy. We are there for us and our club so that’s all that matters. There’s no loyalty in football apart from the fans we all need to remember that and be positive.
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Post by chuckrocky on Sept 19, 2024 13:32:11 GMT
Just remember Friday night we are not there for any single player member of staff or the hierarchy. We are there for us and our club so that’s all that matters. There’s no loyalty in football apart from the fans we all need to remember that and be positive. I’m there for the chicken katsu tbh. |
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Sept 19, 2024 13:46:26 GMT
Is he still manager?
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Post by emretezzy on Sept 19, 2024 14:17:06 GMT
Just remember Friday night we are not there for any single player member of staff or the hierarchy. We are there for us and our club so that’s all that matters. There’s no loyalty in football apart from the fans we all need to remember that and be positive. They'll get full support during the 90. But if we lose Walters and Mr Burns will be getting it at full time. |
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Post by emretezzy on Sept 19, 2024 14:19:11 GMT
I've felt for a while that a lot of Stoke fans call for people to fail just so they can self inflate their egos if it does happen. We write managers, players off before they've even had a chance most the time, even Hughes was called to be sacked before giving us what was nothing short of a great 3 years playing some of the best football any Stoke team has ever played, Obviously sad how it ended up. But fucking hell, at least give the bloke a decent handful of games to put his stamp on it and judge then. It's nothing so with wanting him to fail. It's the exact opposite of the point your making. 99% of fans would want Schumacher in charge still. |
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Post by underdog on Sept 19, 2024 14:21:37 GMT
Been wondering where Borat would show up next.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Sept 19, 2024 14:21:47 GMT
Just remember Friday night we are not there for any single player member of staff or the hierarchy. We are there for us and our club so that’s all that matters. There’s no loyalty in football apart from the fans we all need to remember that and be positive. They'll get full support during the 90. But if we lose Walters and Mr Burns will be getting it at full time. Getting what from who? Gouranga.  |
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Sept 19, 2024 14:23:22 GMT
I've felt for a while that a lot of Stoke fans call for people to fail just so they can self inflate their egos if it does happen. We write managers, players off before they've even had a chance most the time, even Hughes was called to be sacked before giving us what was nothing short of a great 3 years playing some of the best football any Stoke team has ever played, Obviously sad how it ended up. But fucking hell, at least give the bloke a decent handful of games to put his stamp on it and judge then. It's nothing so with wanting him to fail. It's the exact opposite of the point your making. 99% of fans would want Schumacher in charge still. Where have you got these "stats" from? I suspect they have just been randomly made up in your head. Go on prove me wrong. Gouranga. |
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 19, 2024 14:26:46 GMT
Just remember Friday night we are not there for any single player member of staff or the hierarchy. We are there for us and our club so that’s all that matters. There’s no loyalty in football apart from the fans we all need to remember that and be positive. Powerful words |
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Post by dutchstokie on Sept 19, 2024 14:28:19 GMT
Anyone made up any cringeworthy, toe-curling songs for him yet...?
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Post by dirtclod on Sept 19, 2024 14:29:56 GMT
He hasn't had 5 minutes with the players yet but...
What I'm looking for out of Chicho is, does he even MAKE timely substitutions/adjustments or wait until 70-80 minutes like 3 of our past managers did.
Do his instructions register with the players on pitch - those type of things.
Liked that in his interview, he intimated that he'd be going for more of a balance between offense/defense and making sure the players understand their roles as well as the strategy needed in the current game depending upon if we are winning or losing.
Just hope he doesn't have a coronary or try to escape when he sees how we've been trying to "defend"!
Not expecting it all first game, but he is analytical, so it should be interesting.
Like several others on here, I perceive that our midfield has been too lightweight, porous and unable to control balls in order to furnish something worthwhile to the final 1/3.
Specifically for Hull, I'd love to see a "Spanish" style of attack as Hull have had Stokeitis (trouble scoring) lately. Even if it opens us up more on defense - pretty hard to take advantage of that if we keep pressing forward and spend the majority of the match in their half.
We live in interesting times.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Sept 19, 2024 14:30:44 GMT
He was 44 minutes ago. Anyone got the latest? |
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Post by emretezzy on Sept 19, 2024 14:31:16 GMT
It's nothing so with wanting him to fail. It's the exact opposite of the point your making. 99% of fans would want Schumacher in charge still. Where have you got these "stats" from? I suspect they have just been randomly made up in your head. Go on prove me wrong. Gouranga. DM Me Gouranga. I've done a PDF I'll send it you. In all seriousness in the real world, not spoken to anyone who'd have got rid of him. |
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Post by emretezzy on Sept 19, 2024 14:32:44 GMT
They'll get full support during the 90. But if we lose Walters and Mr Burns will be getting it at full time. Getting what from who? Gouranga. A sausage roll to the head. Then a big fat Fuck Off Walters. Followed by a quieter Gouranga |
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Post by AlliG on Sept 19, 2024 14:33:33 GMT
Surely the model (even at Man City) is that the Club/Sporting Director decide the style of play and their approach to transfers (age etc) then go out and find the best coach to fit that model. (Everyone knew his style of management, preferred method of play and the type of players he prefers in advance). The system works best when both are on the same page about style and personnel. When Pep decides to leave, I would expect a Pep clone to be appointed as his successor and the current style of play to be continued. Are you really saying that when Man City appointed Pep they said, "This is the style of football we expect you to play so don't bring any new fancy ideas with you."? I can understand the clone being appointed to fill his shoes when he goes but to appoint the best manager in the world and tell him how to play, even if it was just to play in the Barcelona style is just inconceivable. No. I am saying that every man and his dog knew exactly how Pep wanted his teams to play and as he had never been slow in stating that he was not prepared to compromise his methods, Man City knew that he matched their requirements. I don't think they would have expected him to turn up and suddenly become Tony Pulis.  As I said, the system works best when everyone is on the same page. |
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Sept 19, 2024 14:33:52 GMT
I've felt for a while that a lot of Stoke fans call for people to fail just so they can self inflate their egos if it does happen. We write managers, players off before they've even had a chance most the time, even Hughes was called to be sacked before giving us what was nothing short of a great 3 years playing some of the best football any Stoke team has ever played, Obviously sad how it ended up. But fucking hell, at least give the bloke a decent handful of games to put his stamp on it and judge then. It's nothing so with wanting him to fail. It's the exact opposite of the point your making. 99% of fans would want Schumacher in charge still. That’s simply not true. You obviously don’t watch our away matches. |
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Post by flea79 on Sept 19, 2024 14:34:40 GMT
Just remember Friday night we are not there for any single player member of staff or the hierarchy. We are there for us and our club so that’s all that matters. There’s no loyalty in football apart from the fans we all need to remember that and be positive. I’m there for the chicken katsu tbh. reminds me i was well pissed off on Tuesday, Landrover had no pies as they hadnt come, thought ahhh well nevermind quick brew here and will get a burger from a van outside the ground, nah no burger vans, on principal i wont go in the fan zone, wouldnt have got in anyway with the size of the que, went in the ground saw the ques on the concourse and said fuck that, was a hungry night that was |
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Post by emretezzy on Sept 19, 2024 14:35:27 GMT
It's nothing so with wanting him to fail. It's the exact opposite of the point your making. 99% of fans would want Schumacher in charge still. That’s simply not true. You obviously don’t watch our away matches. No it is. |
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Post by idle on Sept 19, 2024 14:43:48 GMT
It's nothing so with wanting him to fail. It's the exact opposite of the point your making. 99% of fans would want Schumacher in charge still. That’s simply not true. You obviously don’t watch our away matches. 99% is too much, but I bet a big majority didn't want him to go. But he's gone now, let's reseve our anger for Walters and our support for Pelach |
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Post by stokecitytalke on Sept 19, 2024 14:52:09 GMT
That’s simply not true. You obviously don’t watch our away matches. 99% is too much, but I bet a big majority didn't want him to go. But he's gone now, let's reseve our anger for Walters and our support for Pelach Why anger for Walters if it all works out well? |
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Post by rowleyscfc on Sept 19, 2024 14:53:28 GMT
I've felt for a while that a lot of Stoke fans call for people to fail just so they can self inflate their egos if it does happen. We write managers, players off before they've even had a chance most the time, even Hughes was called to be sacked before giving us what was nothing short of a great 3 years playing some of the best football any Stoke team has ever played, Obviously sad how it ended up. But fucking hell, at least give the bloke a decent handful of games to put his stamp on it and judge then. It's nothing so with wanting him to fail. It's the exact opposite of the point your making. 99% of fans would want Schumacher in charge still. Writing someone off before they've even had a game is defo willing someone to fail. I don't know what point you think i'm trying make, just simply point out what I see on here. Don't know if it's 99% but i didn't think he deserved to lose his job, but he has so stop crying about it and get behind the new bloke |
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Sept 19, 2024 14:58:05 GMT
That’s simply not true. You obviously don’t watch our away matches. No it is. I suspect most fans are surprised he's gone but largely ambivalent. Certainly haven't spoken to anyone who is angry. Don't really understand this manufactured rage at Walters, it's like people can't cope unless they've got someone to rail against. Either way, what purpose does it serve? if it goes tits up Walters will be out the door, he's but his neck well and truly on the line when he really didn't need to. On balance i think I'd sooner the D of F acted on what he thinks is the best way forward as opposed to sitting on the fence because he knows he won't be held responsible until he gets his own man in. |
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Post by vamborools on Sept 19, 2024 15:02:39 GMT
Anyone made up any cringeworthy, toe-curling songs for him yet...? Sacked in the Morning, you're getting sacked in the morning..... |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 19, 2024 15:08:34 GMT
He hasn't had 5 minutes with the players yet but... What I'm looking for out of Chicho is, does he even MAKE timely substitutions/adjustments or wait until 70-80 minutes like 3 of our past managers did. Do his instructions register with the players on pitch - those type of things. Liked that in his interview, he intimated that he'd be going for more of a balance between offense/defense and making sure the players understand their roles as well as the strategy needed in the current game depending upon if we are winning or losing. Just hope he doesn't have a coronary or try to escape when he sees how we've been trying to "defend"! Not expecting it all first game, but he is analytical, so it should be interesting. Like several others on here, I perceive that our midfield has been too lightweight, porous and unable to control balls in order to furnish something worthwhile to the final 1/3. Specifically for Hull, I'd love to see a "Spanish" style of attack as Hull have had Stokeitis (trouble scoring) lately. Even if it opens us up more on defense - pretty hard to take advantage of that if we keep pressing forward and spend the majority of the match in their half. We live in interesting times. I hope he is working on that defence, on how to defend corners & balls coming into the box from free kicks,they need to be told to jump & not stand there like spare pricks at a wedding. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 19, 2024 15:08:49 GMT
Press conference has started - Narcis and Walters www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-narcis-pelach-live-9556516Handshakes all roundNarcis Pelach goes around the room shaking hands, followed by Jon Walters and John Coates. Why Stoke?Pelach: Good question! The first moment we met I could feel something going on. I felt a different energy. I saw in Jon and Johns' eyes that they wanted to do something totally different. It's difficult to find that as a young coach. It's a great opportunity. I'm very happy to be part of Stoke City. Why Narcis?Walters: It'll speak for itself in the coming months. It's not a decision taken quickly. How has today gone?Pelach: The players were exceptional to me, very nice. What have you said to the players?Pelach: I've said it's important to have a style of play and structure. Winning doesn't come easy, you need a structure. Wins will come and momentum will come as long as you have a style of play that's strong. It's simple to say and difficult to do. Why should fans be excited?Pelach: It isn't about it coming from them to us, it's about from us to them. It's a lot of effort to follow Stoke away. We have to be responsible. We're very fortunate to be where we are, playing for Stoke, coaching for Stoke, and we have to make sure everyone in the stadium knows it's a new beginning. Win, lose or draw we will fight with energy and spirit. Have you heard of Stokelona?Pelach: Girona not Barcelona! I talked to Bojan and Marc Muniesa, had a good chat with both, we're good friends. They have amazing memories, they talk about the club. They are going to come and visit us and maybe stay to watch training and games. They made me feel secure, wishing I do well for Stoke and maybe Stoke has good memories again. |
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Post by boltonstokie on Sept 19, 2024 15:09:16 GMT
I've felt for a while that a lot of Stoke fans call for people to fail just so they can self inflate their egos if it does happen. We write managers, players off before they've even had a chance most the time, even Hughes was called to be sacked before giving us what was nothing short of a great 3 years playing some of the best football any Stoke team has ever played, Obviously sad how it ended up. But fucking hell, at least give the bloke a decent handful of games to put his stamp on it and judge then. It's nothing so with wanting him to fail. It's the exact opposite of the point your making. 99% of fans would want Schumacher in charge still. Utter nonsense! I was surprised he was sacked but he’s hardly been great for us. I didn’t want to ever see a repeat of the Oxford outing! I’ve longed for us to get a foreign coach and I’m delighted we have. Yes it’s a gamble but an exciting one. I’m very much looking forward to seeing how he gets on and I can assure you there’s far more than 1% of us that feel the same! |
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 19, 2024 15:19:23 GMT
I reckon Pelach might have like Mmaee as an option
No point thinking about it now spose
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