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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 18, 2024 17:30:28 GMT
Having read some of the posts on this thread, it’s confirmed to me that Stoke fans must be some of the most fickle and hysterical fans in the country. Yes, I was as shocked as anyone that Schumacher was sacked when he was, but let’s get things in perspective. While he was a breath of fresh air with his attacking style of football and willingness to develop young talent, there was plenty of criticism and concern about his tactical awareness, playing players out of position, use of substitutes, and unpredictable formations. Players were looking increasingly confused and, by the Oxford game, looked lacking in motivation and desire. Walters has come in and overseen the clearing out of players who were either not committed or good enough, and brought in what most fans have regarded as good and potentially good replacements. He has decided - rightly or wrongly - that Schumacher was not going to achieve the progress that the Club are aiming for and has acted decisively. Yes, it’s a big risk bringing in a Coach with limited experience at this level, but his references from his previous clubs are good and there is always a risk in giving a relatively unproven coach an opportunity , but clubs such as Brighton have a good track record of taking a risk. I agree that Walter’s has put himself on the line with this appointment, but I don’t understand or accept the level of criticism and anger that is being directed at him. Plenty of people on this forum criticise the Club for not being decisive or clinical enough then are up in arms when swift action is taken. Let’s get behind the players and staff and see what Mr Pelach has to offer! At one point did Brighton appoint a rookie manager? Their current manager has never managed in the top flight and taken charge of 50 or so Bundseliga 2 games before joining Brighton. His only previous job was in the German 4th/5th tier I believe. I would say relative to the current status of Brighton he is very much a rookie manager….. |
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Post by somersetpotter on Sept 18, 2024 17:34:24 GMT
No, what do you mean by really Jon? Would you prefer it if he hadn't taken the time to talk with people about the person he was considering for the job? Weird Most respected and sought after coach in Europe (that nobody but his mother has heard of). So, yeah, Really Jon. That ok by you or do i need to simplify it a bit more for you? What did you expect him to say? "We've found a guy we think is orite, hope he does a good job." I know you're probably emotional and aren't happy about the decision but try not let that blind you into making dumb comments. Narcis seems very well regarded by all that have spoken about him publicly so far. If that's what we're seeing publicly, behind the scenes is probably backing that up and more. Get over it and get onboard!!! |
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Sept 18, 2024 17:35:14 GMT
I’m excited.
I never bought into Schumacher, partly because I didn’t want him here and partly because I was bored with it all after Neil’s sacking, but I’m all in on Pélach.
I’m still convinced that our squad is good, at least at the top end of the pitch. All I want to see if a well coached side that do the basics consistently.
Bring on Hull.
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Post by smallthorner on Sept 18, 2024 17:37:56 GMT
He looks lovely doesn't he.
Bet he smells nice too.
Like the eyebrow stuff.
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Post by laneendstokie on Sept 18, 2024 17:38:33 GMT
He’s 36, I have underwear older than him. Can he get the respect required from his players. Perhaps Whitehead will crack heads of dissenters for him
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Post by enuntio on Sept 18, 2024 17:38:39 GMT
When was the last time we advertised for a manager?
Whoever has selected the last 6 or 7 managers has obviously not got a good track record at headhunting...
That said, eternal optimism rocks 🖖🏾
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Post by smallthorner on Sept 18, 2024 17:38:53 GMT
Hope he doesn't turn into Narky Pillock come Christmas.
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Post by gaznandi on Sept 18, 2024 17:41:20 GMT
Most respected and sought after coach in Europe (that nobody but his mother has heard of). So, yeah, Really Jon. That ok by you or do i need to simplify it a bit more for you? What did you expect him to say? "We've found a guy we think is orite, hope he does a good job." I know you're probably emotional and aren't happy about the decision but try not let that blind you into making dumb comments. Narcis seems very well regarded by all that have spoken about him publicly so far. If that's what we're seeing publicly, behind the scenes is probably backing that up and more. Get over it and get onboard!!! Dumb and weird? Look, if you want to fuck me you're chat up lines need refining a touch x Also, don't take 2 hours to come up with them, ask for help if you can't find the words. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 18, 2024 17:42:36 GMT
Having read some of the posts on this thread, it’s confirmed to me that Stoke fans must be some of the most fickle and hysterical fans in the country. Yes, I was as shocked as anyone that Schumacher was sacked when he was, but let’s get things in perspective. While he was a breath of fresh air with his attacking style of football and willingness to develop young talent, there was plenty of criticism and concern about his tactical awareness, playing players out of position, use of substitutes, and unpredictable formations. Players were looking increasingly confused and, by the Oxford game, looked lacking in motivation and desire. Walters has come in and overseen the clearing out of players who were either not committed or good enough, and brought in what most fans have regarded as good and potentially good replacements. He has decided - rightly or wrongly - that Schumacher was not going to achieve the progress that the Club are aiming for and has acted decisively. Yes, it’s a big risk bringing in a Coach with limited experience at this level, but his references from his previous clubs are good and there is always a risk in giving a relatively unproven coach an opportunity , but clubs such as Brighton have a good track record of taking a risk. I agree that Walter’s has put himself on the line with this appointment, but I don’t understand or accept the level of criticism and anger that is being directed at him. Plenty of people on this forum criticise the Club for not being decisive or clinical enough then are up in arms when swift action is taken. Let’s get behind the players and staff and see what Mr Pelach has to offer! Tbh I don’t think the oatcake forum (or the internet in general) is a fair reflection of Stoke fans. Most that I know are pretty level headed and sane. And to be fair so are the majority on here. The odd vocal nutjob can create a false impression of the largely silent majority! |
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Sept 18, 2024 17:42:37 GMT
At one point did Brighton appoint a rookie manager? Their current manager has never managed in the top flight and taken charge of 50 or so Bundseliga 2 games before joining Brighton. His only previous job was in the German 4th/5th tier I believe. I would say relative to the current status of Brighton he is very much a rookie manager….. Every successful manager was a rookie before they weren't mate. Which is the point you are making I think. Let's see how we perform before making judgement is what I'd say to all the supporters who have doubts. |
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Post by NassauDave on Sept 18, 2024 17:43:48 GMT
Ole!
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Post by geoff321 on Sept 18, 2024 17:47:03 GMT
Their current manager has never managed in the top flight and taken charge of 50 or so Bundseliga 2 games before joining Brighton. His only previous job was in the German 4th/5th tier I believe. I would say relative to the current status of Brighton he is very much a rookie manager….. Every successful manager was a rookie before they weren't mate. Which is the point you are making I think. Let's see how we perform before making judgement is what I'd say to all the supporters who have doubts. Yes but we already had a manager with a successful track record so we didn't need to take the gamble. |
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Post by Los Alfareros on Sept 18, 2024 17:47:28 GMT
Oh and its Pel - atch, not Pel - ack
FFS
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Post by lordb on Sept 18, 2024 17:49:30 GMT
At one point did Brighton appoint a rookie manager? Their current manager has never managed in the top flight and taken charge of 50 or so Bundseliga 2 games before joining Brighton. His only previous job was in the German 4th/5th tier I believe. I would say relative to the current status of Brighton he is very much a rookie manager….. Certainly a gamble but not an actual rookie , he's at least been a head coach |
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Post by stokeoptimist on Sept 18, 2024 17:49:45 GMT
Looking forward to Stokalona part 2
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Sept 18, 2024 17:49:58 GMT
Every successful manager was a rookie before they weren't mate. Which is the point you are making I think. Let's see how we perform before making judgement is what I'd say to all the supporters who have doubts. Yes but we already had a manager with a successful track record so we didn't need to take the gamble. It is a gamble agreed but we are where we are now mate. I won't make judgement until I've seen how we play under him. As I said earlier it could be a masterstroke or could go tits up. Strap in for the ride. |
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Post by bloodtypered on Sept 18, 2024 17:50:11 GMT
Coates and Stoke are into gambling
Hope it goes well for him and stoke......we'll see
Come on Stoke!!
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 18, 2024 17:51:15 GMT
Oh and its Pel - atch, not Pel - ack FFS They've just had someone from the Stoke Catalan Supporters Club on the radio, and he was definitely in the PELL-ACK camp! |
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Post by prawnsandwichultra on Sept 18, 2024 17:52:03 GMT
Having read some of the posts on this thread, it’s confirmed to me that Stoke fans must be some of the most fickle and hysterical fans in the country. Yes, I was as shocked as anyone that Schumacher was sacked when he was, but let’s get things in perspective. While he was a breath of fresh air with his attacking style of football and willingness to develop young talent, there was plenty of criticism and concern about his tactical awareness, playing players out of position, use of substitutes, and unpredictable formations. Players were looking increasingly confused and, by the Oxford game, looked lacking in motivation and desire. Walters has come in and overseen the clearing out of players who were either not committed or good enough, and brought in what most fans have regarded as good and potentially good replacements. He has decided - rightly or wrongly - that Schumacher was not going to achieve the progress that the Club are aiming for and has acted decisively. Yes, it’s a big risk bringing in a Coach with limited experience at this level, but his references from his previous clubs are good and there is always a risk in giving a relatively unproven coach an opportunity , but clubs such as Brighton have a good track record of taking a risk. I agree that Walter’s has put himself on the line with this appointment, but I don’t understand or accept the level of criticism and anger that is being directed at him. Plenty of people on this forum criticise the Club for not being decisive or clinical enough then are up in arms when swift action is taken. Let’s get behind the players and staff and see what Mr Pelach has to offer! Thanks Jon. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 18, 2024 17:52:07 GMT
30 min interview now on youtube
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 18, 2024 17:55:40 GMT
Their current manager has never managed in the top flight and taken charge of 50 or so Bundseliga 2 games before joining Brighton. His only previous job was in the German 4th/5th tier I believe. I would say relative to the current status of Brighton he is very much a rookie manager….. Certainly a gamble but not an actual rookie , he's at least been a head coach Everybody has to start somewhere and what better place than the potteries?!😉 I wish him all the luck (and talent) in the world. |
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Post by sportsman on Sept 18, 2024 18:03:00 GMT
He will not last the season Are you two tier kiers brother? His dad was a toolmaker. |
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Post by smallthorner on Sept 18, 2024 18:06:14 GMT
Oh and its Pel - atch, not Pel - ack FFS They've just had someone from the Stoke Catalan Supporters Club on the radio, and he was definitely in the PELL-ACK camp! Deffo Pellack |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Sept 18, 2024 18:08:30 GMT
30 min interview now on youtube 30 minutes, fuck that! 😄 Mourinho played the assistant for a while, had a less than stellar playing career, looking for positives! 🤔 |
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Post by retrostoke on Sept 18, 2024 18:10:07 GMT
If Bojan comes out with a thumbs up on NP everyone on here will get a little bit excited 😂😂
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Sept 18, 2024 18:11:39 GMT
Having read some of the posts on this thread, it’s confirmed to me that Stoke fans must be some of the most fickle and hysterical fans in the country. Yes, I was as shocked as anyone that Schumacher was sacked when he was, but let’s get things in perspective. While he was a breath of fresh air with his attacking style of football and willingness to develop young talent, there was plenty of criticism and concern about his tactical awareness, playing players out of position, use of substitutes, and unpredictable formations. Players were looking increasingly confused and, by the Oxford game, looked lacking in motivation and desire. Walters has come in and overseen the clearing out of players who were either not committed or good enough, and brought in what most fans have regarded as good and potentially good replacements. He has decided - rightly or wrongly - that Schumacher was not going to achieve the progress that the Club are aiming for and has acted decisively. Yes, it’s a big risk bringing in a Coach with limited experience at this level, but his references from his previous clubs are good and there is always a risk in giving a relatively unproven coach an opportunity , but clubs such as Brighton have a good track record of taking a risk. I agree that Walter’s has put himself on the line with this appointment, but I don’t understand or accept the level of criticism and anger that is being directed at him. Plenty of people on this forum criticise the Club for not being decisive or clinical enough then are up in arms when swift action is taken. Let’s get behind the players and staff and see what Mr Pelach has to offer! At one point did Brighton appoint a rookie manager? Their current one. 50 games in the 2nd league in Germany |
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Sept 18, 2024 18:12:19 GMT
He’s 36, I have underwear older than him. Can he get the respect required from his players. Perhaps Whitehead will crack heads of dissenters for him You do not own any underwear older than our new manager. |
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Post by gingerninja on Sept 18, 2024 18:13:06 GMT
I am interested as to how Whitehead came to be appointment, not sure he was on the news coaches radar, through working together 🤔. Was he a Walters choice who was imposed on him?
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Post by prawnsandwichultra on Sept 18, 2024 18:18:11 GMT
Having read some of the posts on this thread, it’s confirmed to me that Stoke fans must be some of the most fickle and hysterical fans in the country. Yes, I was as shocked as anyone that Schumacher was sacked when he was, but let’s get things in perspective. While he was a breath of fresh air with his attacking style of football and willingness to develop young talent, there was plenty of criticism and concern about his tactical awareness, playing players out of position, use of substitutes, and unpredictable formations. Players were looking increasingly confused and, by the Oxford game, looked lacking in motivation and desire. Walters has come in and overseen the clearing out of players who were either not committed or good enough, and brought in what most fans have regarded as good and potentially good replacements. He has decided - rightly or wrongly - that Schumacher was not going to achieve the progress that the Club are aiming for and has acted decisively. Yes, it’s a big risk bringing in a Coach with limited experience at this level, but his references from his previous clubs are good and there is always a risk in giving a relatively unproven coach an opportunity , but clubs such as Brighton have a good track record of taking a risk. I agree that Walter’s has put himself on the line with this appointment, but I don’t understand or accept the level of criticism and anger that is being directed at him. Plenty of people on this forum criticise the Club for not being decisive or clinical enough then are up in arms when swift action is taken. Let’s get behind the players and staff and see what Mr Pelach has to offer! Tbh I don’t think the oatcake forum (or the internet in general) is a fair reflection of Stoke fans. Most that I know are pretty level headed and sane. And to be fair so are the majority on here. The odd vocal nutjob can create a false impression of the largely silent majority! |
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Post by stokief on Sept 18, 2024 18:19:31 GMT
Their current manager has never managed in the top flight and taken charge of 50 or so Bundseliga 2 games before joining Brighton. His only previous job was in the German 4th/5th tier I believe. I would say relative to the current status of Brighton he is very much a rookie manager….. Certainly a gamble but not an actual rookie , he's at least been a head coach and a Head Coach in the CHAMPIONSHIP! |
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