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Post by delilahwhy on Sept 18, 2024 16:36:43 GMT
www.eveningnews24.co.uk/sport/24593166.norwich-city-leigh-bromby-narcis-pelach-paul-clements/Departed goalkeeper coach Paul Clements will be a huge loss for Norwich City, according to his former colleague and ex-Canaries defender Leigh Bromby. Clements has joined new Stoke boss Narcis Pelach in leaving Carrow Road for the Potteries, ending a 15-month stay in Norfolk after compensation was agreed for the pair. Bromby, who worked with the pair at Huddersfield Town first as a coach and then head of football operations, believes that’s a significant blow for his former loan side. “I think it’s a big loss,” he told the Pink Un of Clements' exit. “You look at Angus Gunn and he says it’s the best he’s played in his career. I’ve watched him, and it is. “I think it’s one of the most important positions in the team, because we all know goalkeepers can win you so many points. He did it with Lee Nicholls at Huddersfield, and he’s done it with Gunn at Norwich. “It will have an impact. The players will love Paul and trust him. Trying to replace that is difficult.” The 39-year-old is highly rated across the footballing world, having previously worked at Wolverhampton Wanderers and Middlesbrough. Bromby is a big fan of his, and says he brings a variety of strengths to the table. “The biggest surprise when I left Huddersfield was Paul Clements leaving,” he continued. “I could not understand it. I had coached with him since the academy, so I was with him for 10 years. He’s the best coach, goalkeeper or otherwise, that I’ve worked with. “We were really lucky to have him. It’s not just the goalkeeper coaching either, he’s got other attributes and skills that help around the first team as well. For me he’s the best in the country. “Clem was really loyal to me when I was at Huddersfield. Stuart Webber brought him to Norwich, really valued him and thought he was good, and Stu knows what good looks like. He’s a top coach, a really good guy, and I’m sure he’ll make it a success at Stoke.” Pelach is no different, and his seen his reputation grow exponentially since moving to England with the Terriers in 2020. Bromby received approaches from multiple clubs for the Spaniard during his time at the John Smith’s Stadium, and knew from early in their time together that a career in the top job awaited his colleague. “You could tell that he was either going to work at the top level as an assistant or he was going to go by himself,” said the 44-year-old of Pelach. “He always had that burning desire to be a head coach. “At Huddersfield we wanted him to potentially move into that role. He took over interim a couple of times, but it didn’t quite work, because sometimes you just need to get the results. But there was always the intention of getting him into that role. “Straight away you were like ‘this coach is really talented’, in terms of his professionalism and the way he went about it. He was really enthusiastic, professionally outstanding and as a person he cared about the club and wanted to get better. “He had that part of it as well, and you don’t always get both. He had a good mix of personality and drive. I’ve got nothing but superlatives to say about him.” That work ethic and likeability is what leads Bromby to believe that those behind the Colney scenes will wish Pelach well, from former bosses to the players he’s worked with. “Because he’s a good character and a good person, I think he’ll leave Norwich and they’ll want him to do well,” the ex-Leeds player added. “I bet everyone, the new manager, the old manager, will be texting him wishing him all the best. “He cares about improving players, that’s the key. It’s very individual in terms of trying to develop players, and he was good at that, he understood that. “That’s why the players love him: not because he goes in and he’s everyone’s friend and going out with the players, the players love him because he cares about making them better. “He’s not a soft touch. He’s got a great personality and a likeable personality, but players like him because he pushes them to improve. That’s what coaching is.” You can find these kind of comments and vouches when any new manager joins a club. I'm sure there were plenty of glowing accolades for Nathan Jones when he first signed. I refuse to get carried away any longer. On the face of it, this is an extremely risky decision, when we were actually showing small signs of progress. |
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Post by LDE76 on Sept 18, 2024 16:37:07 GMT
He seems to have that Stoke City DNA, in that he looks like the offspring of Jared Bowen and Carl Muggleton.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 18, 2024 16:38:12 GMT
I truely, truely hope the new Coach doesn't read anything on this message board  The melt-down re: the dismissal of a manager who, to me, never looked particularly confident or comfortable in the role and who I felt, was unfortunately not the right fit for where we were at is a little obcessive. I wish SS much luck in his next role but I cannot see why people, who have been moaning about the awful performances in 3 of this season's matches and moaning generally and moaned last season are no longer able to see why people who are much closer to the situation have chosen to make a non-dithered decision for once. Maybe we should sometimes look at ourselves on this message board and the role that social media plays these days. Players are criticised and some villified, managers, DoF's , the Coates family all it would seem fair game. The amount of rumours,ridicule, general rubbish that is sometimes written  With all the will in the world to try and avoid the keyboard warriors it is human nature to find out what people are saying about you. Imagine coming on here and seeing some of the stuff that's said  The situation is as it is. It would be nice to really get behind the new Coach and his assistants and the players for once but already it's mainly sarcastic comments about failing (some on here seem to be willing that to happen!) how long he'll stay in the job blah! blah! I know what we've gone through as supporters and we have the right to moan and voice our views BUT some of it gets donwight nasty. I know, I don't need to come on here. I've been on the MB for many years now and have often stepped back from posting. I am however, beginning to wonder if we are our own worst enemy. A bit of positivity without jumping on the bloke's back would make a refreshing change and the idea that Walters has somehow morphed in to an egotistical Bond villain is also a little embarrassing. Onwards and hopefully upwards! I wonder why Schumacher wasn't comfortable in the role. Blatantly obvious Walters has made his life difficult so he could engineer his dismissal. Unholy shenanigans have gone on behind the scenes here i bet. Would love an honest assessment from Schumacher. Hes a snake Walters. But fuck it lets see what act is next up at Billy smarts 🎪 Good luck Pelach lad 🤞🤞🤞 |
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Post by LDE76 on Sept 18, 2024 16:38:19 GMT
I’m definitely calling him Chicho instead of Narcis. Welcome on board Chicho, please get us firing again. And if it all goes to shit, we can just call him Chicho Bates. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 18, 2024 16:38:38 GMT
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Post by silsdenstokie on Sept 18, 2024 16:43:49 GMT
I truely, truely hope the new Coach doesn't read anything on this message board The melt-down re: the dismissal of a manager who, to me, never looked particularly confident or comfortable in the role and who I felt, was unfortunately not the right fit for where we were at is a little obcessive. I wish SS much luck in his next role but I cannot see why people, who have been moaning about the awful performances in 3 of this season's matches and moaning generally and moaned last season are no longer able to see why people who are much closer to the situation have chosen to make a non-dithered decision for once. Maybe we should sometimes look at ourselves on this message board and the role that social media plays these days. Players are criticised and some villified, managers, DoF's , the Coates family all it would seem fair game. The amount of rumours,ridicule, general rubbish that is sometimes written With all the will in the world to try and avoid the keyboard warriors it is human nature to find out what people are saying about you. Imagine coming on here and seeing some of the stuff that's said The situation is as it is. It would be nice to really get behind the new Coach and his assistants and the players for once but already it's mainly sarcastic comments about failing (some on here seem to be willing that to happen!) how long he'll stay in the job blah! blah! I know what we've gone through as supporters and we have the right to moan and voice our views BUT some of it gets donwight nasty. I know, I don't need to come on here. I've been on the MB for many years now and have often stepped back from posting. I am however, beginning to wonder if we are our own worst enemy. A bit of positivity without jumping on the bloke's back would make a refreshing change and the idea that Walters has somehow morphed in to an egotistical Bond villain is also a little embarrassing. Onwards and hopefully upwards! I wonder why Schumacher wasn't comfortable in the role. Blatantly obvious Walters has made his life difficult so he could engineer his dismissal. Unholy shenanigans have gone on behind the scenes here i bet. Would love an honest assessment from Schumacher. Hes a snake Walters. But fuck it lets see what act is next up at Billy smarts 🎪 Good luck Pelach lad 🤞🤞🤞 Rumour has it Schumacher didnt get on with Tricky Dicky either so maybe its the working for a DOF thats the problem rather than JW |
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Post by geoff321 on Sept 18, 2024 16:44:23 GMT
I truely, truely hope the new Coach doesn't read anything on this message board The melt-down re: the dismissal of a manager who, to me, never looked particularly confident or comfortable in the role and who I felt, was unfortunately not the right fit for where we were at is a little obcessive. I wish SS much luck in his next role but I cannot see why people, who have been moaning about the awful performances in 3 of this season's matches and moaning generally and moaned last season are no longer able to see why people who are much closer to the situation have chosen to make a non-dithered decision for once. Maybe we should sometimes look at ourselves on this message board and the role that social media plays these days. Players are criticised and some villified, managers, DoF's , the Coates family all it would seem fair game. The amount of rumours,ridicule, general rubbish that is sometimes written With all the will in the world to try and avoid the keyboard warriors it is human nature to find out what people are saying about you. Imagine coming on here and seeing some of the stuff that's said The situation is as it is. It would be nice to really get behind the new Coach and his assistants and the players for once but already it's mainly sarcastic comments about failing (some on here seem to be willing that to happen!) how long he'll stay in the job blah! blah! I know what we've gone through as supporters and we have the right to moan and voice our views BUT some of it gets donwight nasty. I know, I don't need to come on here. I've been on the MB for many years now and have often stepped back from posting. I am however, beginning to wonder if we are our own worst enemy. A bit of positivity without jumping on the bloke's back would make a refreshing change and the idea that Walters has somehow morphed in to an egotistical Bond villain is also a little embarrassing. Onwards and hopefully upwards! We've just sacked a manager who as a 49.65% win rate in his career too date. Who also won a promotion with Plymouth. Who was voted EFL League 1 manager of the season 2022/23. Who was voted EFL League 1 manager of the month March 2022 and September 2022. And replaced him with a manager who has errr, oh worked as a coach with Huddersfield and Norwich. And you're not sure why some fans are worried. |
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Post by thisisouryear on Sept 18, 2024 16:45:32 GMT
Let's hope the Stokelona days are here and here to stay
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Post by tosh on Sept 18, 2024 16:48:44 GMT
So does Pelach have to win more than 7 out of next 10 to keep his job? How was the record the 10 before that? Also last season’s results were last season, before the latest shake up. This season’s form and 3 goals in the first 5 league games is a cause for concern. But for the keeper, newly promoted Oxford could have had a 3 or 4 goal win, and looked a better team than us. |
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Sept 18, 2024 16:50:06 GMT
It's funny that we really have no idea which formation or playing style he prefers. Maybe he'll be a man for wing backs 😂
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Post by clarkeda on Sept 18, 2024 16:52:08 GMT
I truely, truely hope the new Coach doesn't read anything on this message board The melt-down re: the dismissal of a manager who, to me, never looked particularly confident or comfortable in the role and who I felt, was unfortunately not the right fit for where we were at is a little obcessive. I wish SS much luck in his next role but I cannot see why people, who have been moaning about the awful performances in 3 of this season's matches and moaning generally and moaned last season are no longer able to see why people who are much closer to the situation have chosen to make a non-dithered decision for once. Maybe we should sometimes look at ourselves on this message board and the role that social media plays these days. Players are criticised and some villified, managers, DoF's , the Coates family all it would seem fair game. The amount of rumours,ridicule, general rubbish that is sometimes written With all the will in the world to try and avoid the keyboard warriors it is human nature to find out what people are saying about you. Imagine coming on here and seeing some of the stuff that's said The situation is as it is. It would be nice to really get behind the new Coach and his assistants and the players for once but already it's mainly sarcastic comments about failing (some on here seem to be willing that to happen!) how long he'll stay in the job blah! blah! I know what we've gone through as supporters and we have the right to moan and voice our views BUT some of it gets donwight nasty. I know, I don't need to come on here. I've been on the MB for many years now and have often stepped back from posting. I am however, beginning to wonder if we are our own worst enemy. A bit of positivity without jumping on the bloke's back would make a refreshing change and the idea that Walters has somehow morphed in to an egotistical Bond villain is also a little embarrassing. Onwards and hopefully upwards! We've just sacked a manager who as a 49.65% win rate in his career too date. Who also won a promotion with Plymouth. Who was voted EFL League 1 manager of the season 2022/23. Who was voted EFL League 1 manager of the month March 2022 and September 2022. And replaced him with a manager who has errr, oh worked as a coach with Huddersfield and Norwich. And you're not sure why some fans are worried. As talented as the new coach may be, when you lay Schumachers records out like that it’s bonkers. |
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Post by wonderwall on Sept 18, 2024 16:52:11 GMT
4-3-3
Spaniards love it.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 18, 2024 16:53:12 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 18, 2024 16:53:18 GMT
Does he fancy Vanessa Feltz! Already shagged her he said Must have been like the very dark caves in Father Ted |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Sept 18, 2024 16:54:10 GMT
I truely, truely hope the new Coach doesn't read anything on this message board The melt-down re: the dismissal of a manager who, to me, never looked particularly confident or comfortable in the role and who I felt, was unfortunately not the right fit for where we were at is a little obcessive. I wish SS much luck in his next role but I cannot see why people, who have been moaning about the awful performances in 3 of this season's matches and moaning generally and moaned last season are no longer able to see why people who are much closer to the situation have chosen to make a non-dithered decision for once. Maybe we should sometimes look at ourselves on this message board and the role that social media plays these days. Players are criticised and some villified, managers, DoF's , the Coates family all it would seem fair game. The amount of rumours,ridicule, general rubbish that is sometimes written With all the will in the world to try and avoid the keyboard warriors it is human nature to find out what people are saying about you. Imagine coming on here and seeing some of the stuff that's said The situation is as it is. It would be nice to really get behind the new Coach and his assistants and the players for once but already it's mainly sarcastic comments about failing (some on here seem to be willing that to happen!) how long he'll stay in the job blah! blah! I know what we've gone through as supporters and we have the right to moan and voice our views BUT some of it gets donwight nasty. I know, I don't need to come on here. I've been on the MB for many years now and have often stepped back from posting. I am however, beginning to wonder if we are our own worst enemy. A bit of positivity without jumping on the bloke's back would make a refreshing change and the idea that Walters has somehow morphed in to an egotistical Bond villain is also a little embarrassing. Onwards and hopefully upwards! We've just sacked a manager who as a 49.65% win rate in his career too date. Who also won a promotion with Plymouth. Who was voted EFL League 1 manager of the season 2022/23. Who was voted EFL League 1 manager of the month March 2022 and September 2022. And replaced him with a manager who has errr, oh worked as a coach with Huddersfield and Norwich. And you're not sure why some fans are worried. Bit of an eye opener that and doesnt make me feel any better about the situation ☹️ |
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Post by chamberlain on Sept 18, 2024 16:55:06 GMT
Rightly or wrongly SS has gone , I wouldn't have sacked him but he has been sacked so we need to put all our energy into supporting Pelach .
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Sept 18, 2024 16:55:47 GMT
Also want to see him jumping around on the touchline like Carlos Corberan, looking like he's going to audition for a role in Star Wars |
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Post by lostinafrenchbar on Sept 18, 2024 16:58:38 GMT
As the old Chinese curse goes, "May you live in interesting times." Fingers crossed, arsecheeks clenched, etc.
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Post by gaznandi on Sept 18, 2024 16:58:46 GMT
I truely, truely hope the new Coach doesn't read anything on this message board The melt-down re: the dismissal of a manager who, to me, never looked particularly confident or comfortable in the role and who I felt, was unfortunately not the right fit for where we were at is a little obcessive. I wish SS much luck in his next role but I cannot see why people, who have been moaning about the awful performances in 3 of this season's matches and moaning generally and moaned last season are no longer able to see why people who are much closer to the situation have chosen to make a non-dithered decision for once. Maybe we should sometimes look at ourselves on this message board and the role that social media plays these days. Players are criticised and some villified, managers, DoF's , the Coates family all it would seem fair game. The amount of rumours,ridicule, general rubbish that is sometimes written With all the will in the world to try and avoid the keyboard warriors it is human nature to find out what people are saying about you. Imagine coming on here and seeing some of the stuff that's said The situation is as it is. It would be nice to really get behind the new Coach and his assistants and the players for once but already it's mainly sarcastic comments about failing (some on here seem to be willing that to happen!) how long he'll stay in the job blah! blah! I know what we've gone through as supporters and we have the right to moan and voice our views BUT some of it gets donwight nasty. I know, I don't need to come on here. I've been on the MB for many years now and have often stepped back from posting. I am however, beginning to wonder if we are our own worst enemy. A bit of positivity without jumping on the bloke's back would make a refreshing change and the idea that Walters has somehow morphed in to an egotistical Bond villain is also a little embarrassing. Onwards and hopefully upwards! The 'unite' the fanbase that Walters continually alludes to is working well isn't it? It's like a scene from The Red Wedding in Game Of Thrones and i'm very much all for that. Look, we know Walters has lovely eyes but that excuses him nothing  |
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Post by etebojan on Sept 18, 2024 16:59:18 GMT
So do we call him Chicho? |
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Post by gaznandi on Sept 18, 2024 17:01:01 GMT
No, fuck em  |
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Post by stokief on Sept 18, 2024 17:01:05 GMT
I truely, truely hope the new Coach doesn't read anything on this message board The melt-down re: the dismissal of a manager who, to me, never looked particularly confident or comfortable in the role and who I felt, was unfortunately not the right fit for where we were at is a little obcessive. I wish SS much luck in his next role but I cannot see why people, who have been moaning about the awful performances in 3 of this season's matches and moaning generally and moaned last season are no longer able to see why people who are much closer to the situation have chosen to make a non-dithered decision for once. Maybe we should sometimes look at ourselves on this message board and the role that social media plays these days. Players are criticised and some villified, managers, DoF's , the Coates family all it would seem fair game. The amount of rumours,ridicule, general rubbish that is sometimes written With all the will in the world to try and avoid the keyboard warriors it is human nature to find out what people are saying about you. Imagine coming on here and seeing some of the stuff that's said The situation is as it is. It would be nice to really get behind the new Coach and his assistants and the players for once but already it's mainly sarcastic comments about failing (some on here seem to be willing that to happen!) how long he'll stay in the job blah! blah! I know what we've gone through as supporters and we have the right to moan and voice our views BUT some of it gets donwight nasty. I know, I don't need to come on here. I've been on the MB for many years now and have often stepped back from posting. I am however, beginning to wonder if we are our own worst enemy. A bit of positivity without jumping on the bloke's back would make a refreshing change and the idea that Walters has somehow morphed in to an egotistical Bond villain is also a little embarrassing. Onwards and hopefully upwards! We've just sacked a manager who as a 49.65% win rate in his career too date. Who also won a promotion with Plymouth. Who was voted EFL League 1 manager of the season 2022/23. Who was voted EFL League 1 manager of the month March 2022 and September 2022. And replaced him with a manager who has errr, oh worked as a coach with Huddersfield and Norwich. And you're not sure why some fans are worried. I'm not particularly worried . The new coach has a number of years coaching experience in the Chammpionship which is where we are not League 1. He's worked with a number of very experienced managers also. Everone has to start somewhere and we've tried most other things. We've cleared the deadwood out and have a group of talented hungry youngsters and a bit of good old-fashioned experience so I'm willing to fully get behind the bloke who comes across as positive, dynamic and hungry for success himself. He'll be fully aware what he's coming into I'm sure as he's been working in this division so will have watched things unfold. I have no idea if it will work but I'm confident in my belief that unfortunately it wasn't going to work with SS. I keep saying it, if you need to be told by your team that you'll have to ditch your tactics and revert to how they want to play to stay up you're already a goner sadly and how people can honestly defend some of this season's performances ..well |
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Post by mattador78 on Sept 18, 2024 17:02:50 GMT
Rightly or wrongly SS has gone , I wouldn't have sacked him but he has been sacked so we need to put all our energy into supporting Pelach . I agree. Managers, players and all other staff or owners come and go. The only constant is us mad bastards who turn up or tune in every game for the highs and lows of supporting the potters. So it was Schuey it’s now Chico and god knows who else in the future. Maybe Lou fancies another go. |
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Post by bagnallboothen on Sept 18, 2024 17:08:41 GMT
Rightly or wrongly SS has gone , I wouldn't have sacked him but he has been sacked so we need to put all our energy into supporting Pelach . Whilst you're not wrong isn't this a huge part of the problem? As a fan base we are being asked to unite every week, back the manager, back the players because a united Stoke is like no other club in the country. Yet the very man uttering those words is doing everything he can to prove the club is anything but united. Why should any of us believe a word that comes out of his mouth again? |
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Post by ian57 on Sept 18, 2024 17:11:11 GMT
Well I’m fully in with the new gaffer,I’ve dug out my old amigos hat and I’m having chorizo oatcakes for tea washed down with a couple of bottles of cruzcampo.
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Post by prawnsandwichultra on Sept 18, 2024 17:14:10 GMT
Having read some of the posts on this thread, it’s confirmed to me that Stoke fans must be some of the most fickle and hysterical fans in the country. Yes, I was as shocked as anyone that Schumacher was sacked when he was, but let’s get things in perspective. While he was a breath of fresh air with his attacking style of football and willingness to develop young talent, there was plenty of criticism and concern about his tactical awareness, playing players out of position, use of substitutes, and unpredictable formations. Players were looking increasingly confused and, by the Oxford game, looked lacking in motivation and desire.
Walters has come in and overseen the clearing out of players who were either not committed or good enough, and brought in what most fans have regarded as good and potentially good replacements. He has decided - rightly or wrongly - that Schumacher was not going to achieve the progress that the Club are aiming for and has acted decisively. Yes, it’s a big risk bringing in a Coach with limited experience at this level, but his references from his previous clubs are good and there is always a risk in giving a relatively unproven coach an opportunity , but clubs such as Brighton have a good track record of taking a risk. I agree that Walter’s has put himself on the line with this appointment, but I don’t understand or accept the level of criticism and anger that is being directed at him. Plenty of people on this forum criticise the Club for not being decisive or clinical enough then are up in arms when swift action is taken. Let’s get behind the players and staff and see what Mr Pelach has to offer!
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Sept 18, 2024 17:16:50 GMT
Rightly or wrongly SS has gone , I wouldn't have sacked him but he has been sacked so we need to put all our energy into supporting Pelach . Whilst you're not wrong isn't this a huge part of the problem? As a fan base we are being asked to unite every week, back the manager, back the players because a united Stoke is like no other club in the country. Yet the very man uttering those words is doing everything he can to prove the club is anything but united. Why should any of us believe a word that comes out of his mouth again? Bit dramatic. Last season he said what was the right thing to say at the time. What do you want him to come in and say, he came in Feb, all he really had to play with were words. You can say something in February and genuinely mean it and also say something different in September of the same year, and both of those things can be your honest opinion at the time. The fact the people seem to have forgotten that is the reason the world’s in such a massive fucking state. Everyone is fucking obsessed with painting themselves into a corner. If I think 2+2 is 5 in February and by September I think it’s 4, should you be unable to believe a word that comes out of my mouth? Or have I just got better at maths? |
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Post by lordb on Sept 18, 2024 17:18:59 GMT
Having read some of the posts on this thread, it’s confirmed to me that Stoke fans must be some of the most fickle and hysterical fans in the country. Yes, I was as shocked as anyone that Schumacher was sacked when he was, but let’s get things in perspective. While he was a breath of fresh air with his attacking style of football and willingness to develop young talent, there was plenty of criticism and concern about his tactical awareness, playing players out of position, use of substitutes, and unpredictable formations. Players were looking increasingly confused and, by the Oxford game, looked lacking in motivation and desire. Walters has come in and overseen the clearing out of players who were either not committed or good enough, and brought in what most fans have regarded as good and potentially good replacements. He has decided - rightly or wrongly - that Schumacher was not going to achieve the progress that the Club are aiming for and has acted decisively. Yes, it’s a big risk bringing in a Coach with limited experience at this level, but his references from his previous clubs are good and there is always a risk in giving a relatively unproven coach an opportunity , but clubs such as Brighton have a good track record of taking a risk. I agree that Walter’s has put himself on the line with this appointment, but I don’t understand or accept the level of criticism and anger that is being directed at him. Plenty of people on this forum criticise the Club for not being decisive or clinical enough then are up in arms when swift action is taken. Let’s get behind the players and staff and see what Mr Pelach has to offer! At one point did Brighton appoint a rookie manager? |
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Sept 18, 2024 17:19:25 GMT
Having read some of the posts on this thread, it’s confirmed to me that Stoke fans must be some of the most fickle and hysterical fans in the country. Yes, I was as shocked as anyone that Schumacher was sacked when he was, but let’s get things in perspective. While he was a breath of fresh air with his attacking style of football and willingness to develop young talent, there was plenty of criticism and concern about his tactical awareness, playing players out of position, use of substitutes, and unpredictable formations. Players were looking increasingly confused and, by the Oxford game, looked lacking in motivation and desire. Walters has come in and overseen the clearing out of players who were either not committed or good enough, and brought in what most fans have regarded as good and potentially good replacements. He has decided - rightly or wrongly - that Schumacher was not going to achieve the progress that the Club are aiming for and has acted decisively. Yes, it’s a big risk bringing in a Coach with limited experience at this level, but his references from his previous clubs are good and there is always a risk in giving a relatively unproven coach an opportunity , but clubs such as Brighton have a good track record of taking a risk. I agree that Walter’s has put himself on the line with this appointment, but I don’t understand or accept the level of criticism and anger that is being directed at him. Plenty of people on this forum criticise the Club for not being decisive or clinical enough then are up in arms when swift action is taken. Let’s get behind the players and staff and see what Mr Pelach has to offer! Can't argue with any of that 👍 |
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Post by gaznandi on Sept 18, 2024 17:29:29 GMT
Having read some of the posts on this thread, it’s confirmed to me that Stoke fans must be some of the most fickle and hysterical fans in the country. Yes, I was as shocked as anyone that Schumacher was sacked when he was, but let’s get things in perspective. While he was a breath of fresh air with his attacking style of football and willingness to develop young talent, there was plenty of criticism and concern about his tactical awareness, playing players out of position, use of substitutes, and unpredictable formations. Players were looking increasingly confused and, by the Oxford game, looked lacking in motivation and desire. Walters has come in and overseen the clearing out of players who were either not committed or good enough, and brought in what most fans have regarded as good and potentially good replacements. He has decided - rightly or wrongly - that Schumacher was not going to achieve the progress that the Club are aiming for and has acted decisively. Yes, it’s a big risk bringing in a Coach with limited experience at this level, but his references from his previous clubs are good and there is always a risk in giving a relatively unproven coach an opportunity , but clubs such as Brighton have a good track record of taking a risk. I agree that Walter’s has put himself on the line with this appointment, but I don’t understand or accept the level of criticism and anger that is being directed at him. Plenty of people on this forum criticise the Club for not being decisive or clinical enough then are up in arms when swift action is taken. Let’s get behind the players and staff and see what Mr Pelach has to offer! Thanks Jon. |
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The melt-down re: the dismissal of a manager who, to me, never looked particularly confident or comfortable in the role and who I felt, was unfortunately not the right fit for where we were at is a little obcessive. I wish SS much luck in his next role but I cannot see why people, who have been moaning about the awful performances in 3 of this season's matches and moaning generally and moaned last season are no longer able to see why people who are much closer to the situation have chosen to make a non-dithered decision for once. Maybe we should sometimes look at ourselves on this message board and the role that social media plays these days. Players are criticised and some villified, managers, DoF's , the Coates family all it would seem fair game. The amount of rumours,ridicule, general rubbish that is sometimes written 
With all the will in the world to try and avoid the keyboard warriors it is human nature to find out what people are saying about you. Imagine coming on here and seeing some of the stuff that's said 
The situation is as it is. It would be nice to really get behind the new Coach and his assistants and the players for once but already it's mainly sarcastic comments about failing (some on here seem to be willing that to happen!) how long he'll stay in the job blah! blah! I know what we've gone through as supporters and we have the right to moan and voice our views BUT some of it gets donwight nasty. I know, I don't need to come on here. I've been on the MB for many years now and have often stepped back from posting. I am however, beginning to wonder if we are our own worst enemy. A bit of positivity without jumping on the bloke's back would make a refreshing change and the idea that Walters has somehow morphed in to an egotistical Bond villain is also a little embarrassing. Onwards and hopefully upwards!
