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Post by nottsover60 on Nov 23, 2024 22:36:40 GMT
Because I disagree with you 🤣 That’s the only joke here. He’s doing well. We’re looking better. And hopefully that is here to stay. I'm not disagreeing. But your change in attitude from one bloke achieving average results to another is ridiculous. There is a consistency under Pèlach which was missing under Schumacher when a good performance seemed to inexplicably be followed by a poor one and regardless of performance/result there were, usually at least three unfoeced changes to team selection and the formation and tactics seemed very haphazard. I think a run of 11 undefeated while not being remarkable for wins or performances reflects the consistency. |
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Post by pavel on Nov 23, 2024 22:40:56 GMT
Or alternatively: Winning only 3 in 12 Consistently conceding 20+ shots per game Lower points per game of any manager since Jones
Lowest win percentage of any manager since Jones I can completely accept that the players are playing for him. Somewhat concerned that it’s translated into zero benefit to our results. He has 14 points from his first 11 games. Under Schumacher we had 12 from his first 11. We had 6 points from 5 games when SS was sacked, we have 20 from 16 now. So slightly better on both fronts...... How many points did we get from Schumacher’s last 16 games? We have to go like for like for a proper comparison or else it’s not a fair comparison. |
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Post by PottersBrim on Nov 23, 2024 22:40:57 GMT
Schumacher got 1.4 PPG as manager Pelach has 1.27 PPG as manager Neither particularly noteworthy but to say Pelach has turned us around is not true. He’s shown we’ve literally improved under him this season 🤣🤦♂️🤔 Again for the slow ones at the back… Schumacher wasn’t great but his ppg record was 1.4. Pelach also isn’t great and his ppg record is 1.27. So based on these numbers, overall statistically we haven’t improved since our last manager. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 23, 2024 22:42:26 GMT
He has 14 points from his first 11 games. Under Schumacher we had 12 from his first 11. We had 6 points from 5 games when SS was sacked, we have 20 from 16 now. So slightly better on both fronts...... Schumacher got 1.4 PPG as manager Pelach has 1.27 PPG as manager Neither particularly noteworthy but to say Pelach has turned us around is not true. Actually if you disregard cup games where you don't get any points SS has a PPG record of 1.34. I'm very confident that after 29 league games (the length of SS's reign) Pelach's PPG will be higher. And you always have to add context when it's split over two seasons, we started the season in pretty dour fashion and SS paid the price for it...... |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2024 22:42:28 GMT
He’s shown we’ve literally improved under him this season 🤣🤦♂️🤔 Again for the slow ones at the back… Schumacher wasn’t great but his ppg record was 1.4. Pelach also isn’t great and his ppg record is 1.27. So based on these numbers, overall statistically we haven’t improved since our last manager. No. This season it’s an improvement 🤣🤣🤦♂️ |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 23, 2024 22:43:24 GMT
I don’t think ppg is the issue here. We look better
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2024 22:43:28 GMT
Schumacher got 1.4 PPG as manager Pelach has 1.27 PPG as manager Neither particularly noteworthy but to say Pelach has turned us around is not true. Actually if you disregard cup games where you don't get any points SS has a PPG record of 1.34. I'm very confident that after 29 league games (the length of SS's reign) Pelach's PPG will be higher. And you always have to add context when it's split over two seasons, we started the season in pretty dour fashion and SS paid the price for it...... Why would anyone include cups for a ppg? 🤣 |
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Post by PottersBrim on Nov 23, 2024 22:43:51 GMT
Again for the slow ones at the back… Schumacher wasn’t great but his ppg record was 1.4. Pelach also isn’t great and his ppg record is 1.27. So based on these numbers, overall statistically we haven’t improved since our last manager. No. This season it’s an improvement 🤣🤣🤦♂️ So rather than benchmarking Schumacher on his time here, your using just 5 games 🤣🤣🤣 |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 23, 2024 22:44:33 GMT
He has 14 points from his first 11 games. Under Schumacher we had 12 from his first 11. We had 6 points from 5 games when SS was sacked, we have 20 from 16 now. So slightly better on both fronts...... How many points did we get from Schumacher’s last 16 games? We have to go like for like for a proper comparison or else it’s not a fair comparison. Like for like will be after 29 games under the new coach I guess...... |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Nov 23, 2024 22:44:42 GMT
say the stats how they are , it’s 3 loss’s out of 11 , 1.27 points a game , nothing shout good is it , but hey give your usual bullshit Given the shit he’s had from fans, the mess he was left fitness wise and some of the players he’s done well. The reaction to him from fans has been fucking ridiculous and they should be ashamed. Bayern calling out fans for being negative. Ive seen it all now  My opinion that wasnt a pretty watch today at all although we should have won it but for a dodgy ref. If hes planning on conceding 25 shots every game we are not going anywhere with him in charge. Im hoping that is NOT his preferred way of playing, we seem to have zero fight in midfield at the moment but then we do have a lot of players out in those positions. So ill give him more time. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2024 22:44:51 GMT
No. This season it’s an improvement 🤣🤣🤦♂️ So rather than benchmarking Schumacher on his time here, your using just 5 games 🤣🤣🤣 He’s improved us this season which is what we were on about. And apparently your ppg stat is bollocks anyway. So that’s fun. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 23, 2024 22:46:11 GMT
Actually if you disregard cup games where you don't get any points SS has a PPG record of 1.34. I'm very confident that after 29 league games (the length of SS's reign) Pelach's PPG will be higher. And you always have to add context when it's split over two seasons, we started the season in pretty dour fashion and SS paid the price for it...... Why would anyone include cups for a ppg? 🤣 Because some sites give the managers overall record in all competitions, so if you did a simple calculation without disregarding cup games it distorts the PPG. It's still a decent indicator though to be fair..... |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2024 22:46:32 GMT
Given the shit he’s had from fans, the mess he was left fitness wise and some of the players he’s done well. The reaction to him from fans has been fucking ridiculous and they should be ashamed. Bayern calling out fans for being negative. Ive seen it all now My opinion that wasnt a pretty watch today at all although we should have won it but for a dodgy ref. If hes planning on conceding 25 shots every game we are not going anywhere with him in charge. Im hoping that is NOT his preferred way of playing, we seem to have zero fight in midfield at the moment but then we do have a lot of players out in those positions. So ill give him more time. It’s been worse than negative. It’s been utter bullshit based on nothing. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2024 22:46:59 GMT
Why would anyone include cups for a ppg? 🤣 Because some sites give the managers overall record in all competitions, so if you did a simple calculation without disregarding cup games it distorts the PPG. It's still a decent indicator though to be fair..... You don’t get points for cup games, it’s bullshit 🤣 |
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Post by nottsover60 on Nov 23, 2024 22:48:54 GMT
Statistics mean shit all compared to what we see. Which is a togetherness. Points being won. Fitness getting better. A plan. The whole club just feels more positive bar the fans. You’ll find at the end of each season, statistics mean everything. Only the one statistic - total number of points. None of the others count. Generally the teams which score most and concede less get most points but not always and it is rare that a team do both. |
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Post by PottersBrim on Nov 23, 2024 22:49:34 GMT
So rather than benchmarking Schumacher on his time here, your using just 5 games 🤣🤣🤣 He’s improved us this season which is what we were on about. And apparently your ppg stat is bollocks anyway. So that’s fun. Bollocks though even with the correction, still better than Pelach. Who’d of thought that the man who relegated Peralada might not be the man to get us promoted 🤣🤣🤣 |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 23, 2024 22:50:09 GMT
No. This season it’s an improvement 🤣🤣🤦♂️ So rather than benchmarking Schumacher on his time here, your using just 5 games 🤣🤣🤣 But you can't boil it down to statistics alone, you have to factor in the new season, the start we had, the spirit in the dressing room and other things that we as fans don't get to see. Two of the most abject performances you will see away to Watford and Oxford will have set alarm bells ringing, that has very little to do with last seasons efforts...... |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2024 22:50:56 GMT
He’s improved us this season which is what we were on about. And apparently your ppg stat is bollocks anyway. So that’s fun. Bollocks though even with the correction, still better than Pelach. Who’d of thought that the man who relegated Peralada might not be the man to get us promoted 🤣🤣🤣 He will give it a better go than the coward that came before him though  |
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Post by PottersBrim on Nov 23, 2024 22:51:15 GMT
Bayern calling out fans for being negative. Ive seen it all now My opinion that wasnt a pretty watch today at all although we should have won it but for a dodgy ref. If hes planning on conceding 25 shots every game we are not going anywhere with him in charge. Im hoping that is NOT his preferred way of playing, we seem to have zero fight in midfield at the moment but then we do have a lot of players out in those positions. So ill give him more time. It’s been worse than negative. It’s been utter bullshit based on nothing. Bullshit based on nothing? Never stopped you in the past Bayern! |
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Post by PottersBrim on Nov 23, 2024 22:52:20 GMT
So rather than benchmarking Schumacher on his time here, your using just 5 games 🤣🤣🤣 But you can't boil it down to statistics alone, you have to factor in the new season, the start we had, the spirit in the dressing room and other things that we as fans don't get to see. Two of the most abject performances you will see away to Watford and Oxford will have set alarm bells ringing, that has very little to do with last seasons efforts...... I don’t disagree with that 👍 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2024 22:52:48 GMT
So rather than benchmarking Schumacher on his time here, your using just 5 games 🤣🤣🤣 But you can't boil it down to statistics alone, you have to factor in the new season, the start we had, the spirit in the dressing room and other things that we as fans don't get to see. Two of the most abject performances you will see away to Watford and Oxford will have set alarm bells ringing, that has very little to do with last seasons efforts...... Walters clearly wanted to sack him last season. Which tallies with what I saw. They lost all faith in him clearly. Based on what? Who knows. But the way he backed down to the players and changed his philosophy can’t have gone down well. He had no complaints in being sacked . |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2024 22:53:22 GMT
It’s been worse than negative. It’s been utter bullshit based on nothing. Bullshit based on nothing? Never stopped you in the past Bayern! It’s always bullshit based on something at least |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Nov 23, 2024 22:54:37 GMT
Bayern calling out fans for being negative. Ive seen it all now My opinion that wasnt a pretty watch today at all although we should have won it but for a dodgy ref. If hes planning on conceding 25 shots every game we are not going anywhere with him in charge. Im hoping that is NOT his preferred way of playing, we seem to have zero fight in midfield at the moment but then we do have a lot of players out in those positions. So ill give him more time. It’s been worse than negative. It’s been utter bullshit based on nothing. Im just replying to get the last word in. Hysterical watching you repeating your love for Pelachs amazing improvements |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2024 22:58:43 GMT
It’s been worse than negative. It’s been utter bullshit based on nothing. Im just replying to get the last word in. Hysterical watching you repeating your love for Pelachs amazing improvements Love? He’s just improved us which has been nice to see. |
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Post by a on Nov 23, 2024 23:03:03 GMT
Another thread hijacking.
Imagine my surprise
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2024 23:04:28 GMT
Another thread hijacking. Imagine my surprise Hijacking? I’m just discussing the manager and replying to people. Mardarse. |
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Post by banksy1art on Nov 23, 2024 23:34:01 GMT
We are in the top half and it’s nearly December.. it’s a well done from me 👍
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Post by willieeetmiout on Nov 23, 2024 23:55:33 GMT
I like him as a manager, but
He is absolutely pissing me off by refusing to criticise referees.
I get the mentality of not making excuses.
But wank decisions are wank decisions and we have 2 consecutively so not criticising is having fuck all effect.
Grow a pair say what it is
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Post by mickstupp on Nov 24, 2024 0:25:00 GMT
I like him as a manager, but He is absolutely pissing me off by refusing to criticise referees. I get the mentality of not making excuses. But wank decisions are wank decisions and we have 2 consecutively so not criticising is having fuck all effect. Grow a pair say what it is He could moan his bag off about it, but ultimately it changes nothing. I’m sure he will be making his feelings known privately and through the correct channels. |
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