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Post by flea79 on Nov 2, 2024 16:14:48 GMT
We showed much better control before the sub as well, limited them to absolutely nothing. Next thing you no it's become and end to end cup tie. Thought Burger looked much better for having a partner too. We were really good until that moment really. Just the same old problem with the final ball/movement. Can’t disagree but we are at least attempting that killer pass more which I haven’t seen us do for ages |
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Post by Trouserdog on Nov 2, 2024 16:14:57 GMT
Totally deserved the win but he really needs to bin this idea we can play with just two central midfielders. Taking Seko off gave them the momentum and couldn’t cope in the midfield. It was a really strange sub. He’s got to do better with shit like that. I was going mental at that. Just completely fucking brainless. We were controlling the game at 1-0, were able to pass through the midfield and looked so much more balanced. As soon as we made that sub, everything was up for grabs again and we looked shaky as fuck. I'm yet to be convinced that Pelach knows what he's doing. The more I see of him, the more the evidence mounts that he doesn't. |
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Post by senojbor on Nov 2, 2024 16:16:00 GMT
I'm warming to him. He's not making substitutions for the sake of it and the team seems more settled.
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Post by cymap on Nov 2, 2024 16:17:23 GMT
Totally killed us as a team. I would love to know the reasoning for it. And then not to bring another midfielder on? Utter madness. agree wonder if it is was because he's considered to still be getting up to speed and as he'd already played in the week... it did throw the midfield out of whack I was wondering myself if that may have been his thinking....Seko had his first full game on Tues and maybe his thinking was give him an hr today (56 mins) ? If not then its hard to justify it. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 2, 2024 16:21:36 GMT
We were really good until that moment really. Just the same old problem with the final ball/movement. Can’t disagree but we are at least attempting that killer pass more which I haven’t seen us do for ages We were and I think we’ve been better under Pelach in general tbh. His naivety worries me but that’s about it really. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 2, 2024 16:22:43 GMT
Totally deserved the win but he really needs to bin this idea we can play with just two central midfielders. Taking Seko off gave them the momentum and couldn’t cope in the midfield. It was a really strange sub. He’s got to do better with shit like that. I was going mental at that. Just completely fucking brainless. We were controlling the game at 1-0, were able to pass through the midfield and looked so much more balanced. As soon as we made that sub, everything was up for grabs again and we looked shaky as fuck. I'm yet to be convinced that Pelach knows what he's doing. The more I see of him, the more the evidence mounts that he doesn't. I think we look a much better team under him tbh. But this two in midfield thing has to be fucked off. |
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Post by thornestein on Nov 2, 2024 16:25:16 GMT
I just don’t understand the game plan allowing us to get absolutely peppered with shots. With our defence it’s like trying to hold off a missile strike with a B&M marquee. did we get peppered with shots today ? |
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Post by lordb on Nov 2, 2024 16:26:38 GMT
agree wonder if it is was because he's considered to still be getting up to speed and as he'd already played in the week... it did throw the midfield out of whack I was wondering myself if that may have been his thinking....Seko had his first full game on Tues and maybe his thinking was give him an hr today (56 mins) ? If not then its hard to justify it. That would make sense if he'd brought Sol on or Thompson but he switched to 424 |
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Post by Trouserdog on Nov 2, 2024 16:32:07 GMT
I was going mental at that. Just completely fucking brainless. We were controlling the game at 1-0, were able to pass through the midfield and looked so much more balanced. As soon as we made that sub, everything was up for grabs again and we looked shaky as fuck. I'm yet to be convinced that Pelach knows what he's doing. The more I see of him, the more the evidence mounts that he doesn't. I think we look a much better team under him tbh. But this two in midfield thing has to be fucked off. That's pretty much all we've seen though...the 4-4-2 twat-it-up-to-the-ghost-target-man and the 5-2-3 camp-out-in-our-own-box tactic. On what basis do you think we've looked better? |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 2, 2024 16:55:47 GMT
So 9 points from 8 games.
Schumacher had 12 from 12…….
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Post by thornestein on Nov 2, 2024 16:56:22 GMT
So 9 points from 8 games. Schumacher had 12 from 12……. both really poor then |
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Post by bagnallboothen on Nov 2, 2024 16:57:31 GMT
So 9 points from 8 games. Schumacher had 12 from 12……. Give it a rest. It's helping no one. |
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Post by Veritas on Nov 2, 2024 17:00:12 GMT
I just don’t understand the game plan allowing us to get absolutely peppered with shots. With our defence it’s like trying to hold off a missile strike with a B&M marquee. did we get peppered with shots today ? No |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 2, 2024 17:01:28 GMT
So 9 points from 8 games. Schumacher had 12 from 12……. Give it a rest. It's helping no one. Give it a rest fucking hell that rich. A week solid from the same people spouting the same shite about how the coach is out of his depth, today is a must win game, blah blah blah. Let’s all relax and give him more time to get his stamp on this squad….. |
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Post by Los Alfareros on Nov 2, 2024 17:04:58 GMT
I was wondering myself if that may have been his thinking....Seko had his first full game on Tues and maybe his thinking was give him an hr today (56 mins) ? If not then its hard to justify it. That would make sense if he'd brought Sol on or Thompson but he switched to 424 Yes that's how we saw it, sort of went gung ho 4-4-2 and straight away Derby found loads of space in the midfield?? Anyway, a win is a win and we deserved it so well done NP. But don't fucking do that again.... |
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Post by bagnallboothen on Nov 2, 2024 17:06:30 GMT
Give it a rest. It's helping no one. Give it a rest fucking hell that rich. A week solid from the same people spouting the same shite about how the coach is out of his depth, today is a must win game, blah blah blah. Let’s all relax and give him more time to get his stamp on this squad….. Yeah give it a rest. Narcis record to date and Shumachers record over the last 12 games are totally irrelevant to anything. Why would you pick 12 games? Fits a pointless agenda? We won, played alright against a garbage side and bar the substitution the Head Coach had a decent day. Open a beer and enjoy. |
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Nov 2, 2024 17:14:29 GMT
Mixed bag today.
He picked the right team, we were controlling the game and should have been more up.
He then very nearly cost us the game entirely by taking Seko off and opening up the midfield.
Manhoef should have been hooked very early. I’m really starting to dislike him, he’s so wasteful and selfish. If he doesn’t bag a worldie he’s detrimental to the team.
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Post by greenhoff on Nov 2, 2024 17:18:18 GMT
Totally deserved the win but he really needs to bin this idea we can play with just two central midfielders. Taking Seko off gave them the momentum and couldn’t cope in the midfield. It was a really strange sub. He’s got to do better with shit like that. I was going mental at that. Just completely fucking brainless. We were controlling the game at 1-0, were able to pass through the midfield and looked so much more balanced. As soon as we made that sub, everything was up for grabs again and we looked shaky as fuck. I'm yet to be convinced that Pelach knows what he's doing. The more I see of him, the more the evidence mounts that he doesn't. Absolute madness! His naivety worries me! Anyone with a modicum of football knowledge could have seen what would happen. |
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Post by delilahwhy on Nov 2, 2024 17:18:35 GMT
I'd love to hear his reasoning for the Seko sub. It needed putting to him as a direct question.
It made no sense.
"Out of steam" is the only fathomable reason I can think of, but even in that scenario it should have been Sidibe or Thompson to replace him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 2, 2024 17:34:39 GMT
I think we look a much better team under him tbh. But this two in midfield thing has to be fucked off. That's pretty much all we've seen though...the 4-4-2 twat-it-up-to-the-ghost-target-man and the 5-2-3 camp-out-in-our-own-box tactic. On what basis do you think we've looked better? I just think we look more of a threat. The first half against Hull was better than most of what Schumacher did. Portsmouth was excellent. And today was really good. We have some patterns of play too which never happened under Schumacher. |
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Post by stokedinohio on Nov 2, 2024 17:36:09 GMT
So 9 points from 8 games. Schumacher had 12 from 12……. So after 24 matches Schumacher would have 24 from 24 and Pelach 27. After 96 matches Schumacher would have 96 and Pelach 108. |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Nov 2, 2024 17:40:01 GMT
That's pretty much all we've seen though...the 4-4-2 twat-it-up-to-the-ghost-target-man and the 5-2-3 camp-out-in-our-own-box tactic. On what basis do you think we've looked better? I just think we look more of a threat. The first half against Hull was better than most of what Schumacher did. Portsmouth was excellent. And today was really good. We have some patterns of play too which never happened under Schumacher. I think we look more of a threat and wasn’t sorry to see SS go but I thought we were terrible today against a very poor team. Our passing and some of the decision making was abysmal |
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Post by jokker on Nov 2, 2024 17:40:14 GMT
Totally deserved the win but he really needs to bin this idea we can play with just two central midfielders. Taking Seko off gave them the momentum and couldn’t cope in the midfield. It was a really strange sub. He’s got to do better with shit like that. I was going mental at that. Just completely fucking brainless. We were controlling the game at 1-0, were able to pass through the midfield and looked so much more balanced. As soon as we made that sub, everything was up for grabs again and we looked shaky as fuck. I'm yet to be convinced that Pelach knows what he's doing. The more I see of him, the more the evidence mounts that he doesn't. I agree that it nearly cost us the gane, but it wasn't a brainless sub. Seko's not played English scrapball before, and with his weeks without playing is low on stamina. So the HC is building him up slowly. |
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Post by Trouserdog on Nov 2, 2024 17:40:30 GMT
That's pretty much all we've seen though...the 4-4-2 twat-it-up-to-the-ghost-target-man and the 5-2-3 camp-out-in-our-own-box tactic. On what basis do you think we've looked better? I just think we look more of a threat. The first half against Hull was better than most of what Schumacher did. Portsmouth was excellent. And today was really good. We have some patterns of play too which never happened under Schumacher. The stats suggest we're not better - in fact very much worse - but I agree we look more like scoring. Up to today though we've looked 10 times more likely to concede. The first time I've seen any pattern of play (that doesn't involve passing it about at the back to draw a press then just twatting it long) was today when we were finally utilising the 3 in midfield to play out from the back more effectively. That completely went though when Seko went off and we went back to being clueless in possession. I'm not impressed at all by Pelach, and I wasn't exactly bowled over by Schumacher either. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 2, 2024 17:40:47 GMT
Give it a rest fucking hell that rich. A week solid from the same people spouting the same shite about how the coach is out of his depth, today is a must win game, blah blah blah. Let’s all relax and give him more time to get his stamp on this squad….. Yeah give it a rest. Narcis record to date and Shumachers record over the last 12 games are totally irrelevant to anything. Why would you pick 12 games? Fits a pointless agenda? We won, played alright against a garbage side and bar the substitution the Head Coach had a decent day. Open a beer and enjoy. I was chilled before the win, and I’m more than chilled after it. People were going way way overboard, hopefully of nothing else it will temper that between now and Wednesday…… |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 2, 2024 17:41:59 GMT
I just think we look more of a threat. The first half against Hull was better than most of what Schumacher did. Portsmouth was excellent. And today was really good. We have some patterns of play too which never happened under Schumacher. I think we look more of a threat and wasn’t sorry to see SS go but I thought we were terrible today against a very poor team. Our passing and some of the decision making was abysmal Decision making in the final third was abysmal for sure. But I thought the play to get to that decision was good. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 2, 2024 17:44:24 GMT
I just think we look more of a threat. The first half against Hull was better than most of what Schumacher did. Portsmouth was excellent. And today was really good. We have some patterns of play too which never happened under Schumacher. The stats suggest we're not better - in fact very much worse - but I agree we look more like scoring. Up to today though we've looked 10 times more likely to concede. The first time I've seen any pattern of play (that doesn't involve passing it about at the back to draw a press then just twatting it long) was today when we were finally utilising the 3 in midfield to play out from the back more effectively. That completely went though when Seko went off and we went back to being clueless in possession. I'm not impressed at all by Pelach, and I wasn't exactly bowled over by Schumacher either. The stats can also be skewed to suggest we won 7/10 under Schumacher which doesn’t tell the actual story. I think overall we’ve looked better as a team even with the naivety. He’s way better than that coward. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 2, 2024 17:51:26 GMT
A hopeful punt into the box and a miscommunication between captain and keeper let them back into the game, in the 12 mins between Seko going off and their goal we actually exploited the space a couple of times and should have scored.
If Seko was feeling it makes sense to bring him off, Thompson may have been the more pragmatic sub in theory but we won ultimately….
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Post by teenagefanclub on Nov 2, 2024 17:53:03 GMT
Dow we know what he has done to his hand?
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 2, 2024 17:57:37 GMT
I just think we look more of a threat. The first half against Hull was better than most of what Schumacher did. Portsmouth was excellent. And today was really good. We have some patterns of play too which never happened under Schumacher. The stats suggest we're not better - in fact very much worse - but I agree we look more like scoring. Up to today though we've looked 10 times more likely to concede. The first time I've seen any pattern of play (that doesn't involve passing it about at the back to draw a press then just twatting it long) was today when we were finally utilising the 3 in midfield to play out from the back more effectively. That completely went though when Seko went off and we went back to being clueless in possession. I'm not impressed at all by Pelach, and I wasn't exactly bowled over by Schumacher either. Which stats are you looking at that suggest we're worse under the new man than schumacher? |
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