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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Oct 30, 2024 10:40:38 GMT
I thought he got it spot on last night. Yes it was a hard watch first half but he would have been crucified had he played some of the first teamers and they had got injured pre Derby. Incidentally I saw plenty of dour performances under Pulis where we hardly got out of our half. The game plan almost worked but spoiled by a bit of bad luck and a poor referee. Well done to the youngsters they kept at it and were a credit to the club. Come on now let’s beat Derby! Very much agree. We should also consider the fact that Southampton made less changes than we did and were actually pretty strong. Second half was a good performance. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 30, 2024 11:01:23 GMT
I thought he got it spot on last night. Yes it was a hard watch first half but he would have been crucified had he played some of the first teamers and they had got injured pre Derby. Incidentally I saw plenty of dour performances under Pulis where we hardly got out of our half. The game plan almost worked but spoiled by a bit of bad luck and a poor referee. Well done to the youngsters they kept at it and were a credit to the club. Come on now let’s beat Derby! Spot on? like surrendering the pitch to a team struggling at the bottom of the premiership with a notorious leaky defence. The game plan almost worked? There was no game plan apart from damage limitation and to squander possession and territory time and time again. I've no problem with our youngsters but the set up was pathetic and bound to fail and did them no favours. The ref didn't lose us the game it was lost because we were meek and that's down to our head coach. The game plan was similar to Southampton's at Man City last weekend, where they conceded one goal with their notoriously leaky defence and almost nicked a point...... |
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Post by pavel on Oct 30, 2024 11:05:27 GMT
Spot on? like surrendering the pitch to a team struggling at the bottom of the premiership with a notorious leaky defence. The game plan almost worked? There was no game plan apart from damage limitation and to squander possession and territory time and time again. I've no problem with our youngsters but the set up was pathetic and bound to fail and did them no favours. The ref didn't lose us the game it was lost because we were meek and that's down to our head coach. The game plan was similar to Southampton's at Man City last weekend, where they conceded one goal with their notoriously leaky defence and almost nicked a point...... They lost They lost, we lost and Southampton are not Man City and seem destined to do a straight return to the championship. I’ve nothing against Pelach but think he’s the wrong man at the wrong time and is way out of his depth. Does he deserve more time, probably, almost certainly, will it change anything, probably not, almost certainly not. I’m all for giving managers/hc’s time and the problem runs much deeper as most of us know and changing managers constantly solves little. However I’m deeply worried that this man could take us down and with his lack of experience if we really get in the mire we will struggle to get out. He needs to improve quickly and put some consistent performances together but to date I don’t see any coherent plan, process or vision in his thinking or approach to games and that is worrying. |
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Post by thornestein on Oct 30, 2024 11:10:44 GMT
“It is what it is” stop saying FFS not just me it annoys 😂😂 |
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Post by dutchstokie on Oct 30, 2024 11:19:59 GMT
When he was announced my thoughts were “who”, now at the stage where my thoughts are “why” and “when” do we get rid. An appalling appointment and up there with Lambert Its akin to giving the wheel to a bosun on board The Titanic......and we all know how that ended ! |
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Oct 30, 2024 11:30:32 GMT
We've been largely shit for years. Jose Mourinho with Paul Daniels as his assistant couldn't turn this around in a few transfer windows, never mind a few weeks.
What did all the bedwetters on here expect? New bloke comes in with a magic wand?
For fucks sake let's stay postive!
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Post by smallthorner on Oct 30, 2024 11:32:09 GMT
When he was announced my thoughts were “who”, now at the stage where my thoughts are “why” and “when” do we get rid. An appalling appointment and up there with Lambert Its akin to giving the wheel to a bosun on board The Titanic......and we all know how that ended ! Bosun isn't ready for a few weeks mate. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 30, 2024 11:41:03 GMT
The game plan was similar to Southampton's at Man City last weekend, where they conceded one goal with their notoriously leaky defence and almost nicked a point...... They lost They lost, we lost and Southampton are not Man City and seem destined to do a straight return to the championship. I’ve nothing against Pelach but think he’s the wrong man at the wrong time and is way out of his depth. Does he deserve more time, probably, almost certainly, will it change anything, probably not, almost certainly not. I’m all for giving managers/hc’s time and the problem runs much deeper as most of us know and changing managers constantly solves little. However I’m deeply worried that this man could take us down and with his lack of experience if we really get in the mire we will struggle to get out. He needs to improve quickly and put some consistent performances together but to date I don’t see any coherent plan, process or vision in his thinking or approach to games and that is worrying. Yep. But they also only conceded one goal with their notoriously leaky defence. The rest I've read on here about 100 times today alone. "We need to improve" isn't a plan it's just stating the bleeding obvious....... |
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Post by pavel on Oct 30, 2024 11:48:16 GMT
They lost They lost, we lost and Southampton are not Man City and seem destined to do a straight return to the championship. I’ve nothing against Pelach but think he’s the wrong man at the wrong time and is way out of his depth. Does he deserve more time, probably, almost certainly, will it change anything, probably not, almost certainly not. I’m all for giving managers/hc’s time and the problem runs much deeper as most of us know and changing managers constantly solves little. However I’m deeply worried that this man could take us down and with his lack of experience if we really get in the mire we will struggle to get out. He needs to improve quickly and put some consistent performances together but to date I don’t see any coherent plan, process or vision in his thinking or approach to games and that is worrying. Yep. But they also only conceded one goal with their notoriously leaky defence. The rest I've read on here about 100 times today alone. "We need to improve" isn't a plan it's just stating the bleeding obvious....... Yep it’s obvious, obvious to anyone, are you happy with another season of dross? I’m not. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Oct 30, 2024 12:18:29 GMT
Another snake oil salesman in the mould of Jones. However he wants to dress it up, Soton had 78% possession and 807!!! successful passes last night. Granted not as many shots as recently. Easily THE most awful appointment since Lambert, it's a disaster waiting to happen and designed by Walters, who appears to have gone AWOL for the last few weeks as the calamity of his decision sunk in. Pelach needs to go, and quick with JW following him. He's not SJW after these last few weeks [br Their fanzine makes an interesting read. www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/news/63232/ It points out that although Southampton had 78% possession they didn't create anything and most of their possession was sideways and backward safe passes. They back up this with two interesting stats: with their 78% possession they had 12 shots while Stoke had 6 with our 22%. Likewise they only had 32 touches in the penalty area to our 15. Imagine what our fans would be like if Stoke played this style. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 30, 2024 12:42:41 GMT
Yep. But they also only conceded one goal with their notoriously leaky defence. The rest I've read on here about 100 times today alone. "We need to improve" isn't a plan it's just stating the bleeding obvious....... Yep it’s obvious, obvious to anyone, are you happy with another season of dross? I’m not. I'm not happy, but I also think it's too early to judge the new coach. Pretty simple stance really...... |
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Post by onionman on Oct 30, 2024 12:56:50 GMT
Another snake oil salesman in the mould of Jones. However he wants to dress it up, Soton had 78% possession and 807!!! successful passes last night. Granted not as many shots as recently. Easily THE most awful appointment since Lambert, it's a disaster waiting to happen and designed by Walters, who appears to have gone AWOL for the last few weeks as the calamity of his decision sunk in. Pelach needs to go, and quick with JW following him. He's not SJW after these last few weeks [br Their fanzine makes an interesting read. www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/news/63232/ It points out that although Southampton had 78% possession they didn't create anything and most of their possession was sideways and backward safe passes. They back up this with two interesting stats: with their 78% possession they had 12 shots while Stoke had 6 with our 22%. Likewise they only had 32 touches in the penalty area to our 15. Imagine what our fans would be like if Stoke played this style. I can't think of a worse person to be Stoke manager than Russell Martin. With our squad, he'd have us bottom of the Championship, but would lax lyrical about us winning the possession every week. That said, those stats underline that Southampton actually created far more than us last night, so on this occasion Russell's possession game clearly paid off. They had twice as many shots, more than double the amount of touches in the penalty area, and scored more goals than us. |
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Oct 30, 2024 12:58:40 GMT
I thought he got it spot on last night. Yes it was a hard watch first half but he would have been crucified had he played some of the first teamers and they had got injured pre Derby. Incidentally I saw plenty of dour performances under Pulis where we hardly got out of our half. The game plan almost worked but spoiled by a bit of bad luck and a poor referee. Well done to the youngsters they kept at it and were a credit to the club. Come on now let’s beat Derby! Very much agree. We should also consider the fact that Southampton made less changes than we did and were actually pretty strong. Second half was a good performance. Yes let’s forget the 40 minutes of abject shiteness where we had no shots and were getting nailed back back Southampton, a team devoid of confidence. Yes apart from that |
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Post by pavel on Oct 30, 2024 13:07:07 GMT
Yep it’s obvious, obvious to anyone, are you happy with another season of dross? I’m not. I'm not happy, but I also think it's too early to judge the new coach. Pretty simple stance really...... Yep it is early but the signs aren’t promising. I think most people’s frustration and mine seriously is this all could have been avoided with good stewardship of the club. People accepted the good and the bad when we weren’t wealthy but there are few excuses left now after unremitting failure. |
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 30, 2024 13:18:55 GMT
I think he needs a win and he and we need one soon..Take away the annihilation of Protest and it's pretty grim reading.
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