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Post by delilahwhy on Sept 29, 2024 9:26:09 GMT
He complains we were playing too deep, but doesn't that come with the territory when you're inviting the press? Also, this is a club interview. Was he not interviewed by local radio as well? www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0jtfsdzThat picture tells a story. He looks fed up already. I'll be giving midweek a miss. This is the first season that I got my lad a season ticket. Was looking forward to properly initiating him however I don't want to take him when it'll undoubtedly turn very ugly. I'll be giving matchday a wide berth for a while. This isn't going to play out well.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Sept 29, 2024 9:30:07 GMT
Also, this is a club interview. Was he not interviewed by local radio as well?[/quote] www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0jtfsdz[/quote]That hand on the head in exasperation/desperation...it will become a regular thing on these threads now for sure Im not anti Narcis at all but I feel that the longer into a run of games we go & the worse the team plays (if thats is possible) then the more he will realise himself that he really isnt the man for this job Wrong appointment at the wrong time by the wrong Director of Football...and its catastrophic to say the least
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 29, 2024 9:31:52 GMT
Those Seagulls in the background made more sense than him.
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Post by mamathestriker on Sept 29, 2024 9:39:09 GMT
I think our next move will ultimately be a simple one. Tony Mowbray for a couple of years to steady our wayward ship and let him work with the younger players.
He wouldn't be phased by being here at all either, after managing a bigger club than us in Sunderland. To be honest I'd be sounding him out right now.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Sept 29, 2024 9:44:08 GMT
Those Seagulls in the background made more sense than him. It reminded me of 'The Birds'!
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Post by stokesupporter on Sept 29, 2024 9:44:19 GMT
I think our next move will ultimately be a simple one. Tony Mowbray for a couple of years to steady our wayward ship and let him work with the younger players. He wouldn't be phased by being here at all either, after managing a bigger club than us in Sunderland. To be honest I'd be sounding him out right now. Not going to happen as long as Walters is in charge.
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Post by mamathestriker on Sept 29, 2024 9:46:50 GMT
I think our next move will ultimately be a simple one. Tony Mowbray for a couple of years to steady our wayward ship and let him work with the younger players. He wouldn't be phased by being here at all either, after managing a bigger club than us in Sunderland. To be honest I'd be sounding him out right now. Not going to happen as long as Walters is in charge. I think of NP goes we'd give it Shawcross and Whitehead. It's probably why Walters needs to too.
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Post by march4 on Sept 29, 2024 9:51:49 GMT
What happened to that new manager bounce thing other clubs get? Been wondering this. Have any of the last 7 or so managers had anything that could be described as a new manager bounce. Off the top of my head I seem to recall Schumacher drawing and winning away at Birmingham last season so maybe a mini bounce? Can't recall about the others. Bloody hell Stoke, why are we such a basket case🙄 There was the SJW bounce that saved us from relegation.
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Post by chuckrocky on Sept 29, 2024 9:53:29 GMT
I think our next move will ultimately be a simple one. Tony Mowbray for a couple of years to steady our wayward ship and let him work with the younger players. He wouldn't be phased by being here at all either, after managing a bigger club than us in Sunderland. To be honest I'd be sounding him out right now. I’d imagine he’s as good as retired following his recent health issues.
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Post by march4 on Sept 29, 2024 9:54:17 GMT
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a manager almost completely lose the fan base after a couple of games. Extraordinary stuff. The one thing I really don’t like is that he said he knows the players and will play a style that suits them ….. If that’s the case how the fuck have we looked so bad already. First 20 mins against Hull was ok, everything else has seen us look absolutely clueless. He’s got to get results, pronto. That 20mins was the new manager bounce.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 29, 2024 9:54:38 GMT
Been wondering this. Have any of the last 7 or so managers had anything that could be described as a new manager bounce. Off the top of my head I seem to recall Schumacher drawing and winning away at Birmingham last season so maybe a mini bounce? Can't recall about the others. Bloody hell Stoke, why are we such a basket case🙄 There was the SJW bounce that saved us from relegation. Was it Walters though? He didn't pick or coach the team to those end of season wins.
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Post by march4 on Sept 29, 2024 9:56:27 GMT
I think our next move will ultimately be a simple one. Tony Mowbray for a couple of years to steady our wayward ship and let him work with the younger players. He wouldn't be phased by being here at all either, after managing a bigger club than us in Sunderland. To be honest I'd be sounding him out right now. I’d imagine he’s as good as retired following his recent health issues. He was interviewed by his local paper a few days ago. His treatment has been a complete success and he’s ready for a new club.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Sept 29, 2024 10:01:55 GMT
As opposed to this new style that has seen us royally fucked by both Hull and Boro. Stop being a mard arse like the rest. Two choices. Send it more into zero confidence and bad results or try help get them going. It’s become as simple as that I'm not a mard arse mate. Just worried about our club as the last two games have given me the feeling that we are going to end up in real shit.
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Post by ceejays on Sept 29, 2024 10:12:05 GMT
I fear we have the Spanish version of Nathan Jones on our hands . A great talker but his tactics so far are niece in the extreme . Next cab on the rank - Shawcross without doubt
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Post by senojbor on Sept 29, 2024 10:25:24 GMT
Just when they sack Pelach is anyone's guess, but no experienced manager is going to touch us with a bargepole now.
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Post by onionman on Sept 29, 2024 10:54:59 GMT
I think if we lose our next 4 he’ll be gone as should Walters as his appointment falls on him. I’d get Mowbray in for some stability and let him make the management and coaching decisions. He’s good at working with young players and has the much needed experience at this level. I think Walters has to go if Pelach does. We can't just give Walters another pick. He's been utterly reckless. The priority absolutely has to be removing Walters. He’s a perfect storm of egotism and incompetence. He doesn’t just make horrendous decisions - he hammers them through with a ridiculous sense of false confidence so the stupidity has maximum impact.
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Post by mcw on Sept 29, 2024 11:05:48 GMT
I think Walters has to go if Pelach does. We can't just give Walters another pick. He's been utterly reckless. The priority absolutely has to be removing Walters. He’s a perfect storm of egotism and incompetence. He doesn’t just make horrendous decisions - he hammers them through with a ridiculous sense of false confidence so the stupidity has maximum impact. Starting to feel that way. Walters keeps on banging on about nobody works harder than him blah blah and maybe Pèlach’s penchant for watching and rewatching just how shit we are into the early hours convinced him to think yeah this guy gets my work ethic. The problem is that hard work alone does not equal success. Targeted hard work with a plan may do, but I almost feel Walters thinks if I just work really really hard then we must succeed. Lunacy
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Post by march4 on Sept 29, 2024 11:11:35 GMT
Just when they sack Pelach is anyone's guess, but no experienced manager is going to touch us with a bargepole now. I think Mowbray would jump at the opportunity. And he is a Catholic.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 29, 2024 11:13:45 GMT
Been wondering this. Have any of the last 7 or so managers had anything that could be described as a new manager bounce. Off the top of my head I seem to recall Schumacher drawing and winning away at Birmingham last season so maybe a mini bounce? Can't recall about the others. Bloody hell Stoke, why are we such a basket case🙄 There was the SJW bounce that saved us from relegation. Seemingly so aye. Fair point 👍
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Post by LphPotter on Sept 29, 2024 11:32:39 GMT
Just when they sack Pelach is anyone's guess, but no experienced manager is going to touch us with a bargepole now. Yes they will. Soon as they see the money they can earn.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 29, 2024 11:38:59 GMT
There was the SJW bounce that saved us from relegation. Was it Walters though? He didn't pick or coach the team to those end of season wins. It wasn't all Walters. But his input on that occasion was a positive one. His recent handling of matters has seen him lose his mind completely. He's put himself into a corner now..
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Post by silsdenstokie on Sept 29, 2024 11:41:46 GMT
Just when they sack Pelach is anyone's guess, but no experienced manager is going to touch us with a bargepole now. I think Mowbray would jump at the opportunity. And he is a Catholic. Mowbray is probably one who would get a tune out of this lot Not sure how his health situation is though
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 29, 2024 11:47:11 GMT
www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/former-birmingham-city-boss-tony-29922614Ex-Birmingham City boss Tony Mowbray hopes to return to football management this season once he has fully recuperated from illness. “I feel as if I want to go back to work some time soon,” Mowbray said. “I appreciate I’m still a bit weak, and as a football manager you need energy, you need to be at it all the time. I need to give myself a few months, probably playing golf and walking 18 holes. I’ve got three teenage boys and they play a bit of golf. I’m going to take my Florence Nightingale wife away, we will go on a nice holiday somewhere and spend some time together. “After that I hope to get back to work and do what makes me tick, being around young footballers and trying to educate. Football management today is about empathy with players, let them understand that we’re all on the same side.”
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Post by spiderpuss on Sept 29, 2024 11:51:02 GMT
This appointment smacks of Pepe Mel or Frank de Boer. Sounded good over a couple of drinks, but when sobriety kicked in....
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Post by greenhoff on Sept 29, 2024 11:52:07 GMT
I’ll be shocked if his tenure lasts until Christmas. Firstly he just doesn’t have the players to play the way he wants to. Secondly Stoke fans will not stomach a patient passing game anyway. What Walter’s was thinking God only knows. This isn’t going to end well.
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Post by Gods on Sept 29, 2024 12:43:22 GMT
www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/former-birmingham-city-boss-tony-29922614Ex-Birmingham City boss Tony Mowbray hopes to return to football management this season once he has fully recuperated from illness. “I feel as if I want to go back to work some time soon,” Mowbray said. “I appreciate I’m still a bit weak, and as a football manager you need energy, you need to be at it all the time. I need to give myself a few months, probably playing golf and walking 18 holes. I’ve got three teenage boys and they play a bit of golf. I’m going to take my Florence Nightingale wife away, we will go on a nice holiday somewhere and spend some time together. “After that I hope to get back to work and do what makes me tick, being around young footballers and trying to educate. Football management today is about empathy with players, let them understand that we’re all on the same side.” I'm not sure an 'education, empathy and a few nice holidays' message would see you fly through an interview with SJW and JC right now. Unless they go a full about turn.
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Post by liathroid on Sept 29, 2024 12:54:27 GMT
cant go sacking early again , so far we have had 6 sackings works out at about 12 years in pay offs and more in compo to other clubs ,costing between 10 and 15 million , fucking madness someone has to get time
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 29, 2024 12:57:46 GMT
Mowbray with his health issues,is a no goer,our Coaches/ Managers look ill after coming in.
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Post by Waggy on Sept 29, 2024 12:58:34 GMT
Just when they sack Pelach is anyone's guess, but no experienced manager is going to touch us with a bargepole now. I think Mowbray would jump at the opportunity. And he is a Catholic. Catholic? Does Walter’s only employ them?
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Post by kustokie on Sept 29, 2024 13:09:46 GMT
Just when they sack Pelach is anyone's guess, but no experienced manager is going to touch us with a bargepole now. I am beginning to suspect coaches go to Stoke almost expecting to get sacked and receive a big payout. We’ve gone from one extreme to another - from very reluctant to make a change to over-reacting to a run of bad performances. Something is just not right at our club
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