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Post by bertiestan on Sept 16, 2024 8:54:26 GMT
Disappointed, sad and shocked by this…we’ve gone from being a club with very highly regarded owners to this, you can see what he was trying to implicate with the squad and the direction he wanted to take the squad, him and his staff have been badly let down whichever way you look at it🔴⚪️
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Post by monkeycat on Sept 16, 2024 8:54:54 GMT
Hard to see past Shawcross
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Post by lordb on Sept 16, 2024 8:55:06 GMT
I see no rationale for this decision at all can only assume there is an unknown factor 'something has gone on' Yeah agree. It’s kicked off somewhere and things have been said that’s hard to take back. Was a pathetic performance and we’ve been hardly convincing this season. Maybe some harsh words didn’t go down well. it was a really poor flat showing start to finish, I'm fine with harsh words being said but sacking him? on the face of it absurd |
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Post by TheMmaeestro on Sept 16, 2024 8:55:28 GMT
Probably be Brian Barry Murphy. JW will be waxing lyrical about his Man City youth success and he’s also Irish!
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Post by stokiespark on Sept 16, 2024 8:55:36 GMT
You only have to look at many of the media articles since Walter's was appointed. Often it would be Walters who was making comments that you would expect to come from the manager. I would not be surprised if somewhere along the line Schmacher has felt undermined and tensions have been bubbling away for a while.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 16, 2024 8:55:54 GMT
Hard to see past Shawcross We deserve everything coming to us if it’s shawcross. He’s barely coached the U21s. |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 16, 2024 8:56:14 GMT
Probably be Brian Barry Murphy. JW will be waxing lyrical about his Man City youth success and he’s also Irish! Aye. Everyone loves a Man City youth coach these days. |
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Post by lordb on Sept 16, 2024 8:56:20 GMT
I see no rationale for this decision at all can only assume there is an unknown factor 'something has gone on' Walter’s and him fell out due to Walter’s going behind his back and signing players without his approval. I know this for fact. well that's a basic faultline with the DoF model as seen at most clubs that have it most of the time however looks like he's been sacked, not quit |
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Post by baconburger on Sept 16, 2024 8:56:32 GMT
I’ve predicted it since Walters was confirmed. People wanted hard evidence that their views did not align but often gut instinct should not be so easily dismissed. Every manager gets sacked, so you're hardly nostradamus are you? I was hoping you may have an insight rather than just being a nob Every manager doesn’t get sacked in similar circumstances. If you couldn’t see they were strange bedfellows that’s on you. |
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Sept 16, 2024 8:56:46 GMT
Why would he come here? We’d sack him before the end of the season Because he’s the best manager in the league by a mile and his club are in a financial pickle. They may be but he'll get them into playoffs, not sure he'll do that here. He'd be mad come Stoke. I'd love it though. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 16, 2024 8:56:49 GMT
Hard to see past Shawcross Would be a disastrous appointment.... |
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 16, 2024 8:57:08 GMT
I really think we should do better than we've done as a club, and if Walters can't see SS as the man to take us forward I don't agree in sacking him. Hopefully we can bring the right man in who can take us places. If we can get it right we can suddenly be up there fighting for promotion, but if we can find the right man is another matter. For the last 7-8 seasons we have really messed it up with every appointment. Hopefully this time we won't!  |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 16, 2024 8:57:23 GMT
Hard to see past Shawcross Can't see that happening. |
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Post by wearepremierleague on Sept 16, 2024 8:57:40 GMT
Walter’s and him fell out due to Walter’s going behind his back and signing players without his approval. I know this for fact. well that's a basic faultline with the DoF model as seen at most clubs that have it most of the time however looks like he's been sacked, not quit Quitting without a payday was never going to happen. Probably just made an untenable working relationship where one had to go. |
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Post by eddyclamp on Sept 16, 2024 8:57:56 GMT
A question to all do you think the previous manger would have got us anywhere near the play offs
For every Middlesbrough performance we have the
Likes of Oxford and West Brom
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Post by pistol on Sept 16, 2024 8:58:00 GMT
Disappointed, sad and shocked by this…we’ve gone from being a club with very highly regarded owners to this, you can see what he was trying to implicate with the squad and the direction he wanted to take the squad, him and his staff have been badly let down whichever way you look at it🔴⚪️ Can you see that? Cos I couldn’t. Did we improve under him when he replaced Neil? Do we look like we have a style and pattern of play? Does he sound convincing and like he knows what he’s doing when he’s interviewed? Were you taken in by his happy go lucky scouser approach? |
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Post by hamsta2 on Sept 16, 2024 8:58:13 GMT
Hard to see past Shawcross Why? Has he put on a load of weight ? |
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 16, 2024 8:58:29 GMT
Hard to see past Shawcross Would be a disastrous appointment.... Quite... I can't see it though. Utter madness. |
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Post by samba :) on Sept 16, 2024 8:58:33 GMT
Fair enough imo, we’ve played well once this season, plymouth are shite and that could of gone either way, west brom beat us at home and watford was a disgrace. We would of been maximum 14th with him here so whats the point
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Sept 16, 2024 8:58:46 GMT
Hard to see past Shawcross If it is then we're fucked |
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Post by wonderwall on Sept 16, 2024 8:58:52 GMT
Probably be Brian Barry Murphy. JW will be waxing lyrical about his Man City youth success and he’s also Irish! I could win everything with their youth team They spend mils on 13 year olds. |
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Post by dobcool on Sept 16, 2024 8:59:17 GMT
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Sept 16, 2024 8:59:20 GMT
Hard to see past Shawcross Spot on. |
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Post by shakermaker on Sept 16, 2024 8:59:51 GMT
WTF He was stitched up by Walters with an absolute shite squad to start the season with, he's had 1 game with a semi fit team who haven't had much time together and few players still finding their fitness after injuries. It's a joke of a decision A shite squad? We have an excellent young LB/LWB, an experienced left-footed CB, brought in three excellent young players on loan in Moran, Koumas, and now Cannon, plus we managed to keep Burger and Junho. There are no excuses for some of the performances we have served up so far. Starting Gooch as a 10 with Moran on the bench against Oxford just took the biscuit for me. |
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Post by scfcadams on Sept 16, 2024 8:59:52 GMT
Why would he come here? We’d sack him before the end of the season Because he’s the best manager in the league by a mile and his club are in a financial pickle. I have some magic beans to sell you |
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Post by clarkeda on Sept 16, 2024 9:01:02 GMT
Hard to see past Shawcross You are fucking winding us up, surely. He’s wank at u21 level. |
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Post by sealion100 on Sept 16, 2024 9:01:07 GMT
Massive roll of the dice this gutted for shirt
Gotta be a BIG name to placate the fans
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 16, 2024 9:01:23 GMT
Hard to see past Shawcross We deserve everything coming to us if it’s shawcross. He’s barely coached the U21s. Just as we deserve everything coming to us for allowing a Twitter rent-a-gob vibes man to come in and run the show. What exactly has SJW ever done to earn this kind of power? |
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 16, 2024 9:01:44 GMT
Look no further than Walters in my opinion. I've not spoken to him yet, and won't be divulging any information. All I know is that I'm done. It's been crap. |
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Post by mcw on Sept 16, 2024 9:02:08 GMT
We have to hope beyond hope that there is some form of considered thinking behind this. On the one hand we have Walter's saying things like we are buying/investing in players for the long-term future and then all of a sudden we sack the manager who has supposedly been recruiting to his style of play. In an ideal world the removal of a manager doesn't overly impact the longer-term plans as they are becoming more and more just coaches and therefore if this has been planned out properly a coach of a similar style to SS should be coming in.
However the past 5/6 years have generally been knee-jerk sackings with no consideration/thought going into how the next manager would be able to get the best out of the current playing staff. If this is the case with this decision then there is a strong possibility we are back to rinse and repeat mode with us trying to off-load players and scrape together funds to buy/loan new players for the new manager's desired formation/playing style.
Basically this is the acid test of the "new" regime, have they actually made this decision in an informed manner and the next manager can come in and build on SS's squad with tweaks OR is everything we have been told a lot of hot air and there is no joined up thinking...
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