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Post by march4 on Sept 16, 2024 10:06:07 GMT
Percy has spoken, this will be done by 8pm tonight, anybody watching the helicopter on Flightradar yet? Disastrous if true. Can’t see him lasting till Easter. Only makes sense if they are joining the backroom staff of a more experienced manager. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 16, 2024 10:06:39 GMT
Even I think this is a mad decision and i have been critical of SS at times. You can't ( as with MON) let a manager build his team then sack him after a shit performance without him having had chance to get his team flowing how he wants them!!! I do wonder if something had brewed - the performance Saturday was lacklusture. He hasn’t built the team though. Walters has. You have no idea so don't pretend |
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 16, 2024 10:06:39 GMT
Percy has spoken, this will be done by 8pm tonight, anybody watching the helicopter on Flightradar yet? Poor bloke, probably feeling all excited and flattered. Don’t do it mate |
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Post by dobcool on Sept 16, 2024 10:07:30 GMT
Bookmarking this for when we announce Narcis Pelach... Surely we’ve got to throw money at this one. We’ve tried experienced championship, we’ve tried up and coming we now need an established manager with some recent credentials |
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Post by misterj on Sept 16, 2024 10:08:13 GMT
I’ll bet Plymouth fans are ….. pleasantly surprised!!
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Post by kerouac on Sept 16, 2024 10:08:31 GMT
I don’t care who we get in as long he he instills some fitness,strength,drops Wilmot and works around the team that bum fucked Borough…for better or for worse.
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Post by Ron on Sept 16, 2024 10:08:45 GMT
If the replacement is this Norwich coach who's NEVER held the top job then I am fucking done.
The club is an absolute basket case.
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Post by robrigo on Sept 16, 2024 10:09:02 GMT
Fuck this next appointment. I’m looking long term here. Who do you reckon we’ll get in next? After this one? Only 9 months to wait I suppose!
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Post by seths on Sept 16, 2024 10:09:06 GMT
John Walters has put his reputation seriously on the line with this one.
I don't know what to make of it.
As we saw with Alex Neil there's no point dragging the arse out of a failed manager. On the other hand it seems pointless sacking a manager after 5 games when you have clearly committed to supporting him in the summer.
That said, if his face doesn't fit with Walters then better to get rid sooner rather than later and at least have the whole team pulling in the same direction.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 16, 2024 10:09:06 GMT
He hasn’t built the team though. Walters has. You have no idea so don't pretend I mean we’ve been told how it works 🤣 |
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Post by Biblical on Sept 16, 2024 10:09:13 GMT
Have to look back to what was the turning point after the Cardiff game last season.
The players told him that they didn't think what he was trying to do was working, they told him he should change and he did. That was probably the beginning of the end for him.
He's reverted back to what he was trying to do originally this season and I'm assuming the players still think his ideas are just as shit as when they told him he needed to change it last time.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 16, 2024 10:09:41 GMT
Percy has spoken, this will be done by 8pm tonight, anybody watching the helicopter on Flightradar yet? Disastrous if true. Can’t see him lasting till Easter. Only makes sense if they are joining the backroom staff of a more experienced manager. Walters is the DoF. He will be appointing a Head Coach. We aren't going to appoint a manager. |
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Post by noustie on Sept 16, 2024 10:09:45 GMT
He has no idea how to defend. Obviously a big fallout behind closed doors. Shame but better now than when we are back in our usual position miles away from the playoffs. Play old fart football with a Boro fan and after we walloped them basically said it was the weirdest 5-0 I'd ever seen as Stoke could easily have took a pasting the other way especially if that early chance went in for them. |
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Post by skip on Sept 16, 2024 10:09:49 GMT
PRICEY!!!
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Post by Greenhoff is God on Sept 16, 2024 10:10:02 GMT
I reckon we will steal oxfords manager. The way his team played on Saturday, embarrassing us……….I’d take that. |
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Post by fca47 on Sept 16, 2024 10:10:26 GMT
Wow didn't expect that. Having doubts about him, but that is a shock
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Post by LphPotter on Sept 16, 2024 10:11:02 GMT
Whether you think Schumacher should have been sacked or not, I don’t. I just can’t believe we’ve done the exact same as we did with O’Neill. Give him a whole summer to bring new players in and then completely rip everything apart after 5 games.
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Post by march4 on Sept 16, 2024 10:12:11 GMT
If the replacement is this Norwich coach who's NEVER held the top job then I am fucking done. The club is an absolute basket case. When this fails it puts SJW in a difficult position. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 16, 2024 10:13:20 GMT
That's me done with this joke of a club! Absolutely toxic. I was told those exact words by close friends of Rowett when he got sacked. I hoped after five years it had been sorted but obviously not. I thought the implication was that someone behind the scenes had too much power and did things behind the manager's back causing big rifts. I assumed it was Scholes or a player but they've all gone. |
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Post by thanksjon on Sept 16, 2024 10:14:53 GMT
We were atrocious on Saturday but I didn't see this coming.
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Post by Gifton on Sept 16, 2024 10:15:19 GMT
Dwight Yorke at 40/1
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Post by Coll40 on Sept 16, 2024 10:15:21 GMT
If the replacement is this Norwich coach who's NEVER held the top job then I am fucking done. The club is an absolute basket case. Every great manager starts as a coach. Surely we've got to give him a chance ? |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 16, 2024 10:15:32 GMT
Fantastic decisive decision making. Why are people moaning when we are, for once, not waiting until the season is over before sacking the manager? He's clearly not the man to get us competing in the top 6, that was apparent last season.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Sept 16, 2024 10:15:47 GMT
How the absolute fuck is this guy even on our radar? I know with players it can be clever recruitment, but to go from Schumacher (an up and coming coach in League One and good start in the Championship) to putting your balls on the line for Norwich's assistant manager? Is someone on crack down there? I was expecting a name with a reputation to get us back on track, not some nobody who had managed Huddersfield for a week. And that's not trying to be disrespectful to him, I just don't get how this becomes your number one option. I mean, who the frig are his coaches going to be other than this GK coach guy if we've binned everyone else off?
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 16, 2024 10:16:12 GMT
If the replacement is this Norwich coach who's NEVER held the top job then I am fucking done. The club is an absolute basket case. When this fails it puts SJW in a difficult position. No it would put John Coates into a difficult position because he was the one responsible for going from a god manager to a DoF/HC structure. Walters isn't going to appoint a manager because that isn't the way the club us setup to work. You can argue that it's the wrong structure but that isn't Walter's fault. |
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Post by scfcadams on Sept 16, 2024 10:16:32 GMT
Fantastic decisive decision making. Why are people moaning when we are, for once, not waiting until the season is over before sacking the manager? He's clearly not the man to get us competing in the top 6, that was apparent last season. So why didn't we sack him in the summer... |
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Post by baconburger on Sept 16, 2024 10:16:51 GMT
It's obviously too difficult for JC and Stoke. The structure is meant to work when all parties are locked into a single vision and ethos not import their own. It appears Walters has been bought in to implement his own vision and it is dominant over all else. It's a GOD manager with a different title. This is what we are about to find out. We've spent the last 2/3 years trying to move to this model and basically screwed it up at every turn. In order for it to work you need the DoF and recruitment team to have a plan and then select the right head coach to work with for what they are bringing in. From soundbites over that period every single manager/head coach we have brought in has tried to have some say in the recruitment process with varying degrees of success (i.e. them able to get their way). This model only works if the head coach is completely subservient to the DoF/recruitment team in all aspects related to players in/out, if they don't like it then off you go apparently..
I haven't seen a single instance of the structure being successful like that it's not how it's meant to work. You're just describing a GOD manager structure where GOD has a different title. |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 16, 2024 10:17:29 GMT
Fantastic decisive decision making. Why are people moaning when we are, for once, not waiting until the season is over before sacking the manager? He's clearly not the man to get us competing in the top 6, that was apparent last season. So why didn't we sack him in the summer... Gave him another 5 games to see if he could show signs of improvement. There were zero signs of improvement. |
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Post by mattythestokie on Sept 16, 2024 10:18:50 GMT
Maybe this is why we didn’t go for Cundle.
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Post by LphPotter on Sept 16, 2024 10:19:02 GMT
Fantastic decisive decision making. Why are people moaning when we are, for once, not waiting until the season is over before sacking the manager? He's clearly not the man to get us competing in the top 6, that was apparent last season. If it was apparent last season, why not do it in the summer and give the new manager time to bring his own players in and work on his own play style? |
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