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Post by skip on Sept 16, 2024 9:28:17 GMT
I see no rationale for this decision at all can only assume there is an unknown factor 'something has gone on' Walter’s and him fell out due to Walter’s going behind his back and signing players without his approval. I know this for fact. Head Coaches don't sign players so how does this hold true?
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Post by chamberlain on Sept 16, 2024 9:28:59 GMT
It's clearly a knee jerk, emotional decision. Walters has form being an erratic hot head across nearly all his career. All the hallmarks for a successful Sporting Director!!! Not! I’m not a big Jon Walters fan but there has definitely been some concerning performances already this season. West Brom, Watford & Oxford we were very poor with little threat for large chunks of the game. You could even add Coventry to that where in the second half we barely got out of our half (despite scoring and winning that game). I think the timing is horrific, but I can see the logic behind it, as there are some big concerns about what he’s churned out. Agree with that , I'd also add what has happened to Burgers and Junhos performances and his insistence on playing Gooch.
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Post by ceejays on Sept 16, 2024 9:29:05 GMT
I’m stunned . But my take on it is recruitment fall out . SS wanted Cundle big time but they wouldn’t meet Wolves price . Ok £4m was a joke but £2m ? Then Walters brings in Fleetwood guy . Clearly not SS choice . So I think there has been tension between them for awhile. This must translate down to the players . All this talk of us being a team at the top ( I even said it myself ) was clearly not the case . We will go through bumps in the road said Walters . Yeah we all agreed after all it’s a young team . Young teams are notoriously inconsistent. Cue Alan Hansen / but my money is on a Cundle fall out . That’s the root of it . Thoughts anyone ?
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Post by VolvicStokie on Sept 16, 2024 9:29:41 GMT
Alex Morris is the next manager
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 16, 2024 9:29:43 GMT
If it's the name that Homzy is suggesting (Pelach?), sounds like it'll go down like a lead balloon.
Too clever by half type of appointment.
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Post by Los Alfareros on Sept 16, 2024 9:30:54 GMT
Well fuck me, didn't see that coming.
However I also don't understand the "fuck this club we are a laughing stock" mentality.
His record at the club has been average, we have a bright young squad who maybe will do better with a different coach??
Onwards. UTMP.
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Post by smallthorner on Sept 16, 2024 9:31:00 GMT
Super Stevie Holland.
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Post by smiler_andy on Sept 16, 2024 9:31:57 GMT
There are about 15 teams in the Championship whose fans think their teams should be around the top 6. Guess what most of them will be wrong. Since relegation we have been an utter shambles and I thought we were starting to make progress. Sacking managers every 12 months is a recipe for disaster especially when it is done during the season. We never learn. Works for WBA, Watford.....keeping a manager that isn't quite there seems to be the thing not to do. It hasn't worked for us as Coates mentioned in previous 2 sackings, "I felt need to change direction." So which direction are we going as it is not stable which the club keeps talking about?
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Post by RAF on Sept 16, 2024 9:32:16 GMT
Batshit decision! Hold on to ultra wank managers until the bitter end but lose away to Oxford and Ciao baby! Utter fucking madness. Billy Smarts Circus
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Post by baconburger on Sept 16, 2024 9:32:32 GMT
Speaking on a Twitter Spaces Homzy has said re the new manager... "It will be poorly received" They are a member of coaching staff currently, not a head coach "I had to google him" Things could go south very quickly if it's a manager with little experience. The currently bit indicates he has managed before though Think you might need to take a look at where the comma is placed.
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Post by Ron on Sept 16, 2024 9:32:44 GMT
Even I think this is a mad decision and i have been critical of SS at times. You can't ( as with MON) let a manager build his team then sack him after a shit performance without him having had chance to get his team flowing how he wants them!!! I do wonder if something had brewed - the performance Saturday was lacklusture.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 16, 2024 9:34:12 GMT
Even I think this is a mad decision and i have been critical of SS at times. You can't ( as with MON) let a manager build his team then sack him after a shit performance without him having had chance to get his team flowing how he wants them!!! I do wonder if something had brewed - the performance Saturday was lacklusture. He hasn’t built the team though. Walters has.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 16, 2024 9:35:00 GMT
So someone quite random then.
Brilliant.
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 16, 2024 9:35:04 GMT
It makes zero fuckin difference who the replacement is
When will the penny drop with people
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Post by wearepremierleague on Sept 16, 2024 9:35:20 GMT
Walter’s and him fell out due to Walter’s going behind his back and signing players without his approval. I know this for fact. Head Coaches don't sign players so how does this hold true? I’d imagine he at least expected a say.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 16, 2024 9:35:27 GMT
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Post by dobcool on Sept 16, 2024 9:35:34 GMT
Especially because this thread is about the reaction to the sacking and one of the threads was about the search for a new manager. They're about different (if closely related) stuff so personally I think at least that thread should have stayed unlocked. But hey, what do I know? I'm just a nobody. I have no authority here. I'm sure the admins have solid reasons. Keep everything in one place. I really don't like when they do that. I always preferred the days before these megathreads came about.
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Post by wearestoke80 on Sept 16, 2024 9:36:55 GMT
Well I didn’t see that coming at all, hopefully Walters knows he’s doing
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Post by scfcadams on Sept 16, 2024 9:37:03 GMT
Speaking on a Twitter Spaces Homzy has said re the new manager... "It will be poorly received" They are a member of coaching staff currently, not a head coach "I had to google him" Things could go south very quickly if it's a manager with little experience. The currently bit indicates he has managed before though Narcis Pelach
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Sept 16, 2024 9:37:22 GMT
Narcis appointment could be a reflection of Walters' vanity.
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Post by RAF on Sept 16, 2024 9:37:51 GMT
Even I think this is a mad decision and i have been critical of SS at times. You can't ( as with MON) let a manager build his team then sack him after a shit performance without him having had chance to get his team flowing how he wants them!!! I do wonder if something had brewed - the performance Saturday was lacklusture. He hasn’t built the team though. Walters has. You keep banging this drum with absolutely no fucking evidence whatsoever! If Walters was building the team we'd have centre halves playing fullback and lumping it up to a bloke who misses penalties for fun! H
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 16, 2024 9:37:53 GMT
It makes zero fuckin difference who the replacement is When will the penny drop with people And people wonder why I’m a condescending prick.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 16, 2024 9:39:10 GMT
He hasn’t built the team though. Walters has. You keep banging this drum with absolutely no fucking evidence whatsoever! If Walters was building the team we'd have centre halves playing fullback and lumping it up to a bloke who misses penalties for fun! H Schumacher is literally the head coach. He’s there to coach. The transfers and squad building is led by the technical director. It’s really not difficult.
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Post by RAF on Sept 16, 2024 9:40:34 GMT
You keep banging this drum with absolutely no fucking evidence whatsoever! If Walters was building the team we'd have centre halves playing fullback and lumping it up to a bloke who misses penalties for fun! H Schumacher is literally the head coach. He’s there to coach. The transfers and squad building is led by the technical director. It’s really not difficult. Yeah righto, Triggy and Ziggy will probably agree with you. H
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Post by GrahamHyde on Sept 16, 2024 9:41:02 GMT
We're going down this season.
Been building to it for a while now, finally got a bit of stability and now we're heading backwards again.
Ashamed of this club.
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Post by ceejays on Sept 16, 2024 9:41:56 GMT
The more I think of it the more I’m convincing myself it’s a fall out between Cundle versus Lawal . SS wanted Cundle. Wolves wanted £4m . Clearly a non starter . But £2m ? Then Walters brings in Lawal - clearly his appointment. SS wouldn’t be happy about that particularly when they find stress fracture. They don’t pull out of the deal . Walters railroads it through. Even Lawal when interviewed said Walters gave him assurances. So my bet is SS objected. Wanted us to bid £2m for Cundle . Tension now follows. It translates to the players . Oxford happens . Walters fired the gun . Walters is the problem. Who knows if my theory is right but you can piece some of the jigsaw together
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 16, 2024 9:42:02 GMT
I await the pile of shite that J Coates brings in next.
He has to be foreign,there are no decent British ones who could get us promoted plus play decent football.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Sept 16, 2024 9:42:39 GMT
That's me done with this joke of a club! Absolutely toxic. You're not totally objective on this topic though are you?
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Post by Kingswaystokie on Sept 16, 2024 9:42:41 GMT
This must be costing £ millions, Schuey plus all his coaches on long contracts, bet Denise isn't a happy bunny.
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Post by somersetstokie on Sept 16, 2024 9:42:42 GMT
Has JC become a fan of the Watford style of Club management?
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