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Post by Waggy on Sept 14, 2024 13:38:16 GMT
Is what we need.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Sept 14, 2024 13:41:15 GMT
They should nickname our midfield 'Carling'. Piss weak and absolutely fuck all going for it.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 14, 2024 13:41:38 GMT
And if anyone says Pearson
We were being outplayed like this when he was playing. In fact results improved massively without him.
Sidibe didn't happen today. A young lad and understandable.
You look at teams who win midfield balls at this level. They're not quality players in there, just experienced at this level. The kind of player we get a 'please God no' if linked with.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 14, 2024 13:44:38 GMT
We’re clearly banking on Lawal provide this. If he’s out for as long as some fear he might be it could backfire massively……
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Post by wuzza on Sept 14, 2024 13:53:14 GMT
A bit of tenacity goes a long way in this league. The old ‘earn the right to play’ cliche still applies.
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Post by idle on Sept 14, 2024 13:56:56 GMT
Disagree. Burger did nothing but chase around trying to slide tackles in.
We need players who can pass the fucking ball. We gave it away so many times today I lost count in the first 10 minutes. I thought it would get better with Moran on for Gooch, but he was way off as well.
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Post by sealion100 on Sept 14, 2024 14:01:04 GMT
Gotta think that Lowal and Thompson will play has the holding two eventually, If we play the 4-2-3-1 most think ….
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 14, 2024 14:11:21 GMT
I don’t understand what burger offers.
Can’t really pass it and doesn’t tackle.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 14, 2024 14:23:03 GMT
Gor those that slate Thompson
We're better with him playing
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Post by cod on Sept 14, 2024 14:27:06 GMT
Lawal still abour 6 weeks away from fitness. But he sounds like what we need.
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Post by stokemark on Sept 14, 2024 14:27:06 GMT
Moran looks terrible
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 14, 2024 14:30:31 GMT
We are lacking at the moment with Lawal's and Pearson's long term injuries and I get the impression that Thompson wasn't fit to start.
The question is were we wrong to let Laurent leave knowing he was the only fit midfielder we had who can be called athletic at the moment. I don't know what his mental attitude was but a million in the bank was probably more important than keeping him.
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Post by idle on Sept 14, 2024 14:30:51 GMT
Gor those that slate Thompson We're better with him playing We actually are ATM, and I think Thompson shouldn't be anywhere near the starting 11. I don't know what Burger is doing now, cause he sure as hell isn't playing football. And Sidibe doesn't look ready to start week in week out. But he's only 18, so he's kinda excused. Unlike you, I still think Pearson would do a better job though
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Post by boweryboy on Sept 14, 2024 14:30:52 GMT
I'll tell you what Burger offers,free kicks to the opposition on a regular basis,too many players below parr yet again, looks to me like the manager and the players need a kick up the arse, just for starters!!
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 14, 2024 14:31:41 GMT
Gor those that slate Thompson We're better with him playing We actually are ATM, and I think Thompson shouldn't be anywhere near the starting 11. I don't know what Burger is doing now, cause he sure as hell isn't playing football. And Sidibe doesn't look ready to start week in week out. But he's only 18, so he's kinda excused. Unlike you, I still think Pearson would do a better job though Pearson didn't do it when fit so why now?
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 14, 2024 14:33:08 GMT
I'll tell you what Burger offers,free kicks to the opposition on a regular basis,too many players below parr yet again, looks to me like the manager and the players need a kick up the arse, just for starters!! Perhaps this will make them realise that you can have all the attacking options in the world but unless you are prepared to do the hard work of winning the ball, you don't earn the right to show off your skills.
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Sept 14, 2024 14:33:44 GMT
Berger and Junho non existent...
Can't blame Sidibe..
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Post by idle on Sept 14, 2024 14:34:45 GMT
We actually are ATM, and I think Thompson shouldn't be anywhere near the starting 11. I don't know what Burger is doing now, cause he sure as hell isn't playing football. And Sidibe doesn't look ready to start week in week out. But he's only 18, so he's kinda excused. Unlike you, I still think Pearson would do a better job though Pearson didn't do it when fit so why now? Well obviously not now, he's injured... Which is why I agree that we need JT on the pitch even though I don't rate him
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 14, 2024 14:35:39 GMT
We actually are ATM, and I think Thompson shouldn't be anywhere near the starting 11. I don't know what Burger is doing now, cause he sure as hell isn't playing football. And Sidibe doesn't look ready to start week in week out. But he's only 18, so he's kinda excused. Unlike you, I still think Pearson would do a better job though Pearson didn't do it when fit so why now? I don't think we've seen him playing for us fully fit but even from what we've seen he is better than Burger at reading the game and spotting dangerous breaks.
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Post by greenhoff on Sept 14, 2024 14:36:03 GMT
The goal summed it up. Dangling a leg in rather than a firm tackle. We’ve got rid of fannies and brought Fannie's in
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 14, 2024 14:36:36 GMT
Was not existent!
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 14, 2024 14:38:48 GMT
Pearson didn't do it when fit so why now? I don't think we've seen him playing for us fully fit but even from what we've seen he is better than Burger at Reading the game and spotting dangerous breaks. Keep hearing this Results say otherwise since he isn't playing . End of last season we played good football without his lumbering efforts and half hearted challenges Games bypassed him. He's a liability and shouldn't be near out team when fit despite how poor we are He doesn't read a game, games go on around him
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Post by idle on Sept 14, 2024 14:41:06 GMT
I don't think we've seen him playing for us fully fit but even from what we've seen he is better than Burger at Reading the game and spotting dangerous breaks. Keep hearing this Results say otherwise since he isn't playing . End of last season we played good football without his lumbering efforts and half hearted challenges Games bypassed him. He's a liability and shouldn't be near out team when fit despite how poor we are He doesn't read a game, games go on around him If you look at his interception stats from last season you couldn't be more wrong: Ben Pearson
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Post by onepara on Sept 14, 2024 14:43:06 GMT
They looked like they knew what they were doing. We didn't. That's down to coaching. What were they doing during the break? What was that team selection? He's trying to be too clever. Just do the obvious, & play our best players. When he made the changes, the only one that made sense was Thompson, who added tenacity. He's a poor Manager who is still learning, & we can't afford to be his school.
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Post by noustie on Sept 14, 2024 14:47:36 GMT
Weak as soy piss.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 14, 2024 14:48:09 GMT
Keep hearing this Results say otherwise since he isn't playing . End of last season we played good football without his lumbering efforts and half hearted challenges Games bypassed him. He's a liability and shouldn't be near out team when fit despite how poor we are He doesn't read a game, games go on around him If you look at his interception stats from last season you couldn't be more wrong: Ben PearsonLook at the point stats without him He's a liability
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 14, 2024 14:48:38 GMT
I don't think we've seen him playing for us fully fit but even from what we've seen he is better than Burger at Reading the game and spotting dangerous breaks. Keep hearing this Results say otherwise since he isn't playing . End of last season we played good football without his lumbering efforts and half hearted challenges Games bypassed him. He's a liability and shouldn't be near out team when fit despite how poor we are He doesn't read a game, games go on around him We also got those results without Burger who was sitting on the bench. We were using Laurent and Cundle. The question I keep coming back to is should we have either paid what Wolves wanted for Cundle or kept Laurent? Disagree with your last sentence. His strength in my opinion is seeing where the danger is coming from before it gets near our box. I'm not a great Pearson fan but we don't have another player like him in the squad. Thompson is the nearest but he is reactive rather than seeing where the danger might arise.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 14, 2024 14:52:48 GMT
Keep hearing this Results say otherwise since he isn't playing . End of last season we played good football without his lumbering efforts and half hearted challenges Games bypassed him. He's a liability and shouldn't be near out team when fit despite how poor we are He doesn't read a game, games go on around him We also got those results without Burger who was sitting on the bench. We were using Laurent and Cundle. The question I keep coming back to is should we have either paid what Wolves wanted for Cundle or kept Laurent? Disagree with your last sentence. His strength in my opinion is seeing where the danger is coming from before it gets near our box. I'm not a great Pearson fan but we don't have another player like him in the squad. The cliche that missing players are the answer He's the answer to absolutely nothing We have 2 players yet to play in midfield and can only pray that one at least can sit in there. Be back to Neil ball with that statue of Paul Bunyan there
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 14, 2024 15:02:10 GMT
We also got those results without Burger who was sitting on the bench. We were using Laurent and Cundle. The question I keep coming back to is should we have either paid what Wolves wanted for Cundle or kept Laurent? Disagree with your last sentence. His strength in my opinion is seeing where the danger is coming from before it gets near our box. I'm not a great Pearson fan but we don't have another player like him in the squad. The cliche that missing players are the answer He's the answer to absolutely nothing We have 2 players yet to play in midfield and can only pray that one at least can sit in there. Be back to Neil ball with that statue of Paul Bunyan there Well if the missing players aren't going to give us better options we might as well give up now. A lot of Championship teams are like Oxford, aggressive, strong and well organised without being great. We need to find a way of not letting ourselves be dominated in midfield or we won't see the best of our attacking options. I can't see any of today's midfield (including Moran) offering any more aggression than they did today which leaves us with having to play Gooch in these sorts of matches.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Sept 14, 2024 15:03:07 GMT
We must be the smallest team in the Championship. We're gonna get bullied out of so many games.. today we weren't bullied we were just rubbish.
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