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Post by george2again on Aug 30, 2024 20:17:42 GMT
Well I’ll go Cannon and Koumas equal 1 ( nice to see them play together in some system.
Tezgel
Gallagher
Mmaee
Ennis
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2024 20:23:49 GMT
Think it’ll be:
Cannon
Koumas
Gallagher
Mmaee
Tezgel
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Post by bassmaster on Aug 30, 2024 20:26:25 GMT
Bayern will decide…
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 30, 2024 20:26:48 GMT
Think it’ll be: Cannon Koumas Gallagher Mmaee Tezgel Koumas and Gallagher are both versatile and can play wide. I wonder if he sees Emre possibly as someone who can play as a 10? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2024 20:29:07 GMT
Think it’ll be: Cannon Koumas Gallagher Mmaee Tezgel Koumas and Gallagher are both versatile and can play wide. I wonder if he sees Emre possibly as someone who can play as a 10? We don’t play with a 10 so I doubt it. And if we did, it’d be daft not to play Junho there. |
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 30, 2024 20:30:56 GMT
Koumas and Gallagher are both versatile and can play wide. I wonder if he sees Emre possibly as someone who can play as a 10? We don’t play with a 10 so I doubt it. And if we did, it’d be daft not to play Junho there. Junho has a lot to prove playing centrally. He’s not once had a decent game for us when played there. I think long term Tezgel has the intelligence to play deeper and create. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2024 20:33:59 GMT
We don’t play with a 10 so I doubt it. And if we did, it’d be daft not to play Junho there. Junho has a lot to prove playing centrally. He’s not once had a decent game for us when played there. I think long term Tezgel has the intelligence to play deeper and create. He’s barely played there. So just needs time in there. |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 30, 2024 20:36:23 GMT
Don't see how there can be a pecking order. Assume it'll be Cannon's shirt to lose but surely the others will be used based on what Schu wants to try/thinks will work. Sometimes it might be Koumas/Tezgel sometimes something bigger and heavier might be in order then it'll be Gallagher/Mmaee.
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 30, 2024 20:36:26 GMT
Junho has a lot to prove playing centrally. He’s not once had a decent game for us when played there. I think long term Tezgel has the intelligence to play deeper and create. He’s barely played there. So just needs time in there. He’s had lots of opportunities to play there. He’s far better on the left and the player himself has said it’s his best position. |
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Post by upthefud on Aug 30, 2024 20:36:28 GMT
Koumas wide forward, he’ll always play
1. Cannon
2. Gallagher
3. Tezgel
4. Mmaee
5. Ennis
Think Mmaee is done
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2024 20:39:47 GMT
Koumas wide forward, he’ll always play 1. Cannon 2. Gallagher 3. Tezgel 4. Mmaee 5. Ennis Think Mmaee is done I don’t want him starting over Manhoef or Junho tbh. Just doesn’t seem a good thing to do for the club? |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 30, 2024 20:42:47 GMT
Real front 3 on rotation:
1. Cannon
2. Mmae
3. Tezgel
Wide -forwards
4. Koumas/Gallagher
5. My Nan
6. Ennis
I really dont see Gallagher playing up top on his own bar a really difficult away game we need just a lump upfront. I really think he will start alongside one of the other strikers.
Koumas will be interchangeable from left wing and striker as needs be.
The real battle will be between Mmae/Tezgel for who is first replacement sub. They look about the same level of player at the minute so let them fight it out for 2nd choice to Cannon.
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Post by kickfortouch on Aug 30, 2024 20:43:17 GMT
I suspect that as it looks like Tezgel won’t be going out on loan, then we’ll be seeing very little of Maaee moving forward. I don’t think SS is a big fan or either his physical attributes or personality and now we have better options, can’t see him being here after Jan. Same for Vidigal.
1. Cannon
2. Koumas (think he’ll start most games off the left but play upfront in Cannon’s absence
3. Gallagher
4. Tezgel (could he be an option as either LW or deeper? His possible flexibility could be one reason we’ve decided to not loan him out.)
5. Mmaee.
6. Ennis
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Post by upthefud on Aug 30, 2024 20:43:33 GMT
Koumas wide forward, he’ll always play 1. Cannon 2. Gallagher 3. Tezgel 4. Mmaee 5. Ennis Think Mmaee is done I don’t want him starting over Manhoef or Junho tbh. Just doesn’t seem a good thing to do for the club? Hard to judge so early but he looks like a loanee who is more than ready at this level and not someone we’re trying to develop who’s not up to it. End of the day we have options now. Million and Bae won’t play all 46 games. I’m in the camp of being particularly wary about too much depth but I think we’ve struck a good balance here. Gooch now becomes solely RB competition. Still time to try and offload Ennis (and Mmaee for that matter, freeing up a bit of CF rotation) |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 30, 2024 20:45:05 GMT
Koumas wide forward, he’ll always play 1. Cannon 2. Gallagher 3. Tezgel 4. Mmaee 5. Ennis Think Mmaee is done I don’t want him starting over Manhoef or Junho tbh. Just doesn’t seem a good thing to do for the club? Why not if hes playing better?? Junho is still not up to speed this season - Koumas is ready and raring to go as is Cannon I suspect. Koumas looks like a great winger WITH goals from the left-wing. Im sorry but Junho just doesnt offer that YET. He is a tidy player but he really needs to up his assists/goals output this season. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2024 20:45:57 GMT
I don’t want him starting over Manhoef or Junho tbh. Just doesn’t seem a good thing to do for the club? Hard to judge so early but he looks like a loanee who is more than ready at this level and not someone we’re trying to develop who’s not up to it. End of the day we have options now. Million and Bae won’t play all 46 games. I’m in the camp of being particularly wary about too much depth but I think we’ve struck a good balance here. Gooch now becomes solely RB competition. Still time to try and offload Ennis He looks excellent. I’d play him up front with them pair either side. I just don’t think loanees should be given significant time over two players we should be looking to develop and sell for squillions. Of course he allows for better rotation and that’s good. But our players need the game time more than a loan. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2024 20:47:07 GMT
I don’t want him starting over Manhoef or Junho tbh. Just doesn’t seem a good thing to do for the club? Why not if hes playing better?? Junho is still not up to speed this season - Koumas is ready and raring to go as is Cannon I suspect. Koumas looks like a great winger WITH goals from the left-wing. Im sorry but Junho just doesnt offer that YET. He is a tidy player but he really needs to up his assists/goals output this season. Because he’s not our player and I don’t give a shit about his development if I’m being totally honest. Koumas looks great. But we have two class wide players who need the game time more, who are both very good and who can both make us a fortune. |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 30, 2024 20:54:23 GMT
Why not if hes playing better?? Junho is still not up to speed this season - Koumas is ready and raring to go as is Cannon I suspect. Koumas looks like a great winger WITH goals from the left-wing. Im sorry but Junho just doesnt offer that YET. He is a tidy player but he really needs to up his assists/goals output this season. Because he’s not our player and I don’t give a shit about his development if I’m being totally honest. Koumas looks great. But we have two class wide players who need the game time more, who are both very good and who can both make us a fortune. 2 points here Bayern for you to disagree with. 1) We want to get promotion and if a loan player helps us get there who gives a dam. 2) I prefer our own players to play as well. Junho needs to look at Koumas and learn from him to show what is needed to succeed. He does need to step up this season and actually start winning us games (goals and assists). This is just healthy competition for places and if hes good enough, then we can send Koumas back to Liverpool in January because we dont need him thank you. I dont see how giving our players a guaranteed starting place is going to a) get us promotion or b) push them to become better players. Junho/Manhoef et, all just got a BIG kick up the backside to make sure they are contributing. |
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Post by lordb on Aug 30, 2024 20:54:59 GMT
Cannon
Koumas (looks a natural wide player to me)
The others
Ennis
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Post by mrnovember on Aug 30, 2024 20:57:18 GMT
Fuck me. The front four should consist of the four players most likely to score or create us goals. Right now, on limited evidence admittedly, that has to include Koumas playing out wide. I don't really give two fucks about development. Imagine coming away from a game that we've lost and scored zip and thinking "well at least that's another 90 minutes under the belt for the players we own". Delusional.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2024 20:58:30 GMT
Because he’s not our player and I don’t give a shit about his development if I’m being totally honest. Koumas looks great. But we have two class wide players who need the game time more, who are both very good and who can both make us a fortune. 2 points here Bayern for you to disagree with. 1) We want to get promotion and if a loan player helps us get there who gives a dam. 2) I prefer our own players to play as well. Junho needs to look at Koumas and learn from him to show what is needed to succeed. He does need to step up this season and actually start winning us games (goals and assists). This is just healthy competition for places and if hes good enough, then we can send Koumas back to Liverpool in January because we dont need him thank you. I dont see how giving our players a guaranteed starting place is going to a) get us promotion or b) push them to become better players. Junho/Manhoef et, all just got a BIG kick up the backside to make sure they are contributing. 1) me 🤣 he’s not a big enough improvement on either of those two. Up front, I think he probably he is a big upgrade on what we had. Cannon, not sure but if he isn’t then that’s good. 2) disagree re Junho. He’s been great given the massive move it was. And it is good competition but the preference should alway be to our own players if there’s not much of a difference in calibre. |
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Post by spoton on Aug 30, 2024 20:59:09 GMT
He’s barely played there. So just needs time in there. He’s had lots of opportunities to play there. He’s far better on the left and the player himself has said it’s his best position. Unfortunately he will need to up his game to dislodge Kuomas from the left |
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 30, 2024 21:01:11 GMT
He’s had lots of opportunities to play there. He’s far better on the left and the player himself has said it’s his best position. Unfortunately he will need to up his game to dislodge Kuomas from the left I fully agree. Junho still has a lot to prove for me. We can all see that he’s a good technical player but his output so far has been very poor. |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 30, 2024 21:01:31 GMT
2 points here Bayern for you to disagree with. 1) We want to get promotion and if a loan player helps us get there who gives a dam. 2) I prefer our own players to play as well. Junho needs to look at Koumas and learn from him to show what is needed to succeed. He does need to step up this season and actually start winning us games (goals and assists). This is just healthy competition for places and if hes good enough, then we can send Koumas back to Liverpool in January because we dont need him thank you. I dont see how giving our players a guaranteed starting place is going to a) get us promotion or b) push them to become better players. Junho/Manhoef et, all just got a BIG kick up the backside to make sure they are contributing. 1) me 🤣 he’s not a big enough improvement on either of those two. Up front, I think he probably he is a big upgrade on what we had. Cannon, not sure but if he isn’t then that’s good. 2) disagree re Junho. He’s been great given the massive move it was. And it is good competition but the preference should alway be to our own players if there’s not much of a difference in calibre. Well that I agree with and we probably all do. I do think this will be GOOD for Junho to play with better players. I think ur worrying about something that just isnt there. Of course I prefer it if Junho is scoring than Koumas as hes a Stoke player and not a loaner. But we just want the one who is going to score the most. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2024 21:02:53 GMT
1) me 🤣 he’s not a big enough improvement on either of those two. Up front, I think he probably he is a big upgrade on what we had. Cannon, not sure but if he isn’t then that’s good. 2) disagree re Junho. He’s been great given the massive move it was. And it is good competition but the preference should alway be to our own players if there’s not much of a difference in calibre. Well that I agree with and we probably all do. I do think this will be GOOD for Junho to play with better players. I think ur worrying about something that just isnt there. Of course I prefer it if Junho is scoring than Koumas as hes a Stoke player and not a loaner. But we just want the one who is going to score the most. I want to see them all play (inc Cannon anctually) and think there’s a way but he won’t do it. |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 30, 2024 21:08:07 GMT
Well that I agree with and we probably all do. I do think this will be GOOD for Junho to play with better players. I think ur worrying about something that just isnt there. Of course I prefer it if Junho is scoring than Koumas as hes a Stoke player and not a loaner. But we just want the one who is going to score the most. I want to see them all play (inc Cannon anctually) and think there’s a way but he won’t do it. Thats fair enough, It looks a big squad and its hard to see how everyone fits into it and who loses out. With regards Tezgel - I think we have to wait and see a few games before calling the manager out. If he spends most of the season doing nothing and never getting on the pitch, its not a good sign. But I think you under-estimate the manager and his rotation plans this season. Having many options is generally a good thing - Just didnt work for Gareth Southgate and his 75 minute substitutions. |
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Post by meirparkpotter on Aug 30, 2024 21:10:31 GMT
Koumas and Gallagher are both versatile and can play wide. I wonder if he sees Emre possibly as someone who can play as a 10? We don’t play with a 10 so I doubt it. And if we did, it’d be daft not to play Junho there. WHY WOULD IT?! Junho isn't a 10, he's said it himself! |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2024 21:11:24 GMT
I want to see them all play (inc Cannon anctually) and think there’s a way but he won’t do it. Thats fair enough, It looks a big squad and its hard to see how everyone fits into it and who loses out. With regards Tezgel - I think we have to wait and see a few games before calling the manager out. If he spends most of the season doing nothing and never getting on the pitch, its not a good sign. But I think you under-estimate the manager and his rotation plans this season. Having many options is generally a good thing - Just didnt work for Gareth Southgate and his 75 minute substitutions. I just don’t think we’ve had a manager that has coped with options and that is like ptsd for me. Give TP options and he’d pick the wrong one. You then needed lucky injuries to get him back on track. Hughes the same. And they’re the only two managers in the last 15 years that have done well. |
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Post by meirparkpotter on Aug 30, 2024 21:14:41 GMT
2 points here Bayern for you to disagree with. 1) We want to get promotion and if a loan player helps us get there who gives a dam. 2) I prefer our own players to play as well. Junho needs to look at Koumas and learn from him to show what is needed to succeed. He does need to step up this season and actually start winning us games (goals and assists). This is just healthy competition for places and if hes good enough, then we can send Koumas back to Liverpool in January because we dont need him thank you. I dont see how giving our players a guaranteed starting place is going to a) get us promotion or b) push them to become better players. Junho/Manhoef et, all just got a BIG kick up the backside to make sure they are contributing. 1) me 🤣 he’s not a big enough improvement on either of those two. Up front, I think he probably he is a big upgrade on what we had. Cannon, not sure but if he isn’t then that’s good. 2) disagree re Junho. He’s been great given the massive move it was. And it is good competition but the preference should alway be to our own players if there’s not much of a difference in calibre. 1) f&$cking hell, that's it then... better send him back boys. I wonder if it's too late to tell them we don't want him anymore cos Bayern said so? 2) Being 'great' and being match winning are different things (and I love Junho for the record) |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 30, 2024 21:31:37 GMT
Cannon
Gallagher
Mmaee
Tezgel
Ennis
Koumas will be used wide now.
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