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Post by peterpan1 on Aug 24, 2024 17:53:46 GMT
No guile, pace or movement off the ball. Gooch, Laurent, Thompson, Bocat, Wilmot are not good enough. Play Sidibe and get the new signings in asap. How many seasons is it now that we've been saying no pace in the team 🤔
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Post by spoton on Aug 24, 2024 18:04:00 GMT
Bae and Koumas need to start. Thought Bae was overall very poor he may have the odd good touch but gives it away to many times and just not able to be physical enough
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Post by karl on Aug 24, 2024 18:11:27 GMT
Why did we play a different system than we have been just because WBA decided to mix it up also. We should set up to play the same each game and then change it if needed.
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Post by eddyclamp on Aug 24, 2024 18:27:40 GMT
Had a beer after the game with a baggies fan. He said you can see what Stoke are trying to do and thinks Stoke will finish above Albion this season. Think I agree with him.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 24, 2024 18:55:42 GMT
They could bring Wallace and Diangana off the bench, both better than any midfielder we have, like Watford they were physically stronger, Keeper been very poor so far and defence still all over the place. Welcome to another Stoke championship seaso, crowd miserable, manager changed before Christmas at this rate.
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Post by whatsashig on Aug 24, 2024 19:07:58 GMT
Had a beer after the game with a baggies fan. He said you can see what Stoke are trying to do and thinks Stoke will finish above Albion this season. Think I agree with him. Baysykly patronising in a friendly way, if there’s such a thing.
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Post by eddyclamp on Aug 24, 2024 19:10:25 GMT
Had a beer after the game with a baggies fan. He said you can see what Stoke are trying to do and thinks Stoke will finish above Albion this season. Think I agree with him. Baysykly patronising in a friendly way, if there’s such a thing. Not patronising at all, I’ve known him years.
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Post by karl on Aug 24, 2024 19:15:02 GMT
Anyone seen Bae? I'm not seeing this superstar people keep talking about. Going to take a while to get back up to speed. Will need the cup game to get match sharpness
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Post by whatsashig on Aug 24, 2024 19:15:38 GMT
Baysykly patronising in a friendly way, if there’s such a thing. Not patronising at all, I’ve known him years. I didn’t mean it as harsh as patronising, more in a joking way, at times (limited) we was quite clever but it’s kinda like condensed in 5 minutes of a 90 minute game.
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Post by independent on Aug 24, 2024 19:42:56 GMT
Had a beer after the game with a baggies fan. He said you can see what Stoke are trying to do and thinks Stoke will finish above Albion this season. Think I agree with him. Please share what he thinks we are trying to do.
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Post by thegrassyknoll on Aug 24, 2024 20:10:21 GMT
As another Albion fan, I'm afraid the Baggies fan quoted above must have been pissed, because I can't for the life of me see SCFC, with the current playing staff and management, finishing above WBAFC. That is a bit of an indictment, given that WBAFC are broke and under EFL player buying sanctions. Albion's only additions to the playing staff have been loans and free transfers. The one thing we do have is a loyal, top notch coach who can motivate the squad.
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Post by Northy on Aug 24, 2024 20:36:25 GMT
What a pile of dog pooh that was. It was like a new under 7s team and the dad coach trying to work out what the best position is for the players, swapping them about regularly, oh and playing against an under 10 team
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Post by Glory Hunter on Aug 24, 2024 20:38:10 GMT
Had a beer after the game with a baggies fan. He said you can see what Stoke are trying to do and thinks Stoke will finish above Albion this season. Think I agree with him. Baysykly patronising in a friendly way, if there’s such a thing. Is that Russian for basically? Regardless, it’s bollocks. A very tight game we didn’t win because we hit the inside of the post twice when 2 inches made the difference between 2 goals, a hat trick for the standout Koumas, and another win.
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Post by whatsashig on Aug 24, 2024 20:45:10 GMT
No it’s brummy for bay- see-Klee-e. It’s like kinslice..
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Post by retrostoke on Aug 24, 2024 20:53:00 GMT
Had a beer after the game with a baggies fan. He said you can see what Stoke are trying to do and thinks Stoke will finish above Albion this season. Think I agree with him. Can’t see the Baggies finishing bottom so that’s not going to happen 😉
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Post by whatsashig on Aug 24, 2024 20:53:13 GMT
On the win thing , it’s cus we didn’t apply ourselves enough. Just a boring game condensed into 5 minutes if stoke being capable, when that happened it was good but blimey a game is much longer brom managed that game , physically you might say but no impetuous from either side, if a game can be close cus on that basis I agree, not footy as I know it , appreciate I come from a none precessional view of the clever dick game it’s become. Watch the Harry Enfield video if arse of 1920s or whatever liverpool in 80s, there was a point in second half we was trying be so clever doing the close quick pass move stuff in a huddle it was that, inverting the pyramid and all that, just a comical moment, rather than entertaining
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Post by silsdenstokie on Aug 24, 2024 21:24:48 GMT
Really disappointing today. Hitting the post aside, we never came close to scoring 2nd half. We shoukd have been knocking the door down at thernd but it never happened….easy street for the Baggies
Koumas was good though
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Post by a on Aug 24, 2024 21:26:58 GMT
I’m not sure many posters watched the game. I did and I don’t think we are far off it. Their first goal was a good ball in and a naive defender and poor positioning from Johanssen from being prevented. The second was inexperienced inexcusable crud. We had chances and Koumas better be leading the line as he’s streets ahead of what we have.
Keep the faith as much as I’m as frustrated as you are.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 24, 2024 21:31:38 GMT
As another Albion fan, I'm afraid the Baggies fan quoted above must have been pissed, because I can't for the life of me see SCFC, with the current playing staff and management, finishing above WBAFC. That is a bit of an indictment, given that WBAFC are broke and under EFL player buying sanctions. Albion's only additions to the playing staff have been loans and free transfers. The one thing we do have is a loyal, top notch coach who can motivate the squad. You have an experienced Championship squad, and you have still been allowed to bring in players on a decent wage. Let's not make out you're having to play the youth team.............
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Post by dirtclod on Aug 24, 2024 21:34:59 GMT
I’m not sure many posters watched the game. I did and I don’t think we are far off it. Their first goal was a good ball in and a naive defender and poor positioning from Johanssen from being prevented. The second was inexperienced inexcusable crud. We had chances and Koumas better be leading the line as he’s streets ahead of what we have. Keep the faith as much as I’m as frustrated as you are. Saw it the same way you did. Yeah but you know how it is on here. Lose a game and we should don Kamakaze scarves, execute the manager, all the Coates, ship the players to Somalia and burn down the stadium. Win a game and it's Champions League within a year.
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Post by whatsashig on Aug 24, 2024 21:39:16 GMT
Baysykly patronising in a friendly way, if there’s such a thing. Is that Russian for basically? Regardless, it’s bollocks. A very tight game we didn’t win because we hit the inside of the post twice when 2 inches made the difference between 2 goals, a hat trick for the standout Koumas, and another win. Depends on which part of Russia your from I guess
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Post by BristolMick on Aug 24, 2024 22:04:33 GMT
As another Albion fan, I'm afraid the Baggies fan quoted above must have been pissed, because I can't for the life of me see SCFC, with the current playing staff and management, finishing above WBAFC. That is a bit of an indictment, given that WBAFC are broke and under EFL player buying sanctions. Albion's only additions to the playing staff have been loans and free transfers. The one thing we do have is a loyal, top notch coach who can motivate the squad. Agree, based on today then you are going to finish miles above us and we are going to have another season of struggle trying to avoid relegation. You were competent, moved the ball quickly through the park and cut through us, we on the other hand just passed it about sideways and backwards hoping that something would open up. Every man on your team knew their drill, ours looked utterly clueless and not helped by the manager moving them into different positions like he was playing a game of chess. I’m not sure you have better players than us but I think you probably have a better manager. That’s two weeks in a row he’s been comprehensively outwitted by his opposite number. There is every chance Wayne Rooney will outwit him next week I fear too! BM
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 24, 2024 22:14:20 GMT
Had a beer after the game with a baggies fan. He said you can see what Stoke are trying to do and thinks Stoke will finish above Albion this season. Think I agree with him. What the fuck did you lace his beer with?
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Post by stantheman on Aug 24, 2024 22:33:43 GMT
What really summed the day up was the cluster fuck formation in the last 10 mins. Looking for an equaliser, we had Ennis leading the line, Laurent at centre half and Wilmot as our 3rd right back of the game. Very strange and desperate measures
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Post by independent on Aug 24, 2024 22:54:19 GMT
The real question thrown up by the game is: Can kounas score more goals per game than our defence will give away.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 25, 2024 9:35:54 GMT
Wanted to reflect after two very long journeys which can distort the view on a day , but I’d be very concerned on a number of fronts yesterday . 1 Juno is not a false 9 or 10 so we’ve now an issue with fitting in good players in one or two positions ., He just doesn’t see the pictures to play there 2 How the manager with literally half a dozen midfielders to select thinks gooch on the left to stop furlong effectively playing two left backs is our most positive option is totally bewildering and telling . 3 The keeper is too short and teams have already spotted it float it it up high and slow and let Chaos commence. 4 Bocat seems stuck in the middle neither adding value as a attacking option or defending like a proper left back Steven’s undoubtedly better and I thunk he’ll start soon as he’s fit 5 Junior just isn’t up to it poor both ways just not got it at this level the loss of hooever killing us 6 Moran is a replica of cundle so we don’t need both but did little to siggest he’s as good 7 ,Though the centre backs were ok 8, We clear;t would benefit from the physical presence pf lawal and Gallagher and the latter can reap;y help the clea;rt talented million , Koufax and Juno 9 The movement of home fans seems to have totally ripped the ground of true singlr end hostileot dovodoeng the stoke support and giving the advantage to th away location clearly not everything . Like so much well intended but not the outcome envisaged
But most of all while we are a different club in so many aspects than last May the concern has to be the manager clearly doesn’t believe he has what he needs and there is 4 days to solve that , my big fear is not being a SJW man the next twist will be the tried and tested autumn departure as results haven’t worked out . yesterdays performance gets you beaten at Plymouth and Oxford and while he says they can still get their target for the frost batch of games it clearly wasn’t 3 and it would put huge pressure on the next batch starting with a very tricky Hull Friday night
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Post by stokecitydom on Aug 25, 2024 9:47:05 GMT
I’m not sure many posters watched the game. I did and I don’t think we are far off it. Their first goal was a good ball in and a naive defender and poor positioning from Johanssen from being prevented. The second was inexperienced inexcusable crud. We had chances and Koumas better be leading the line as he’s streets ahead of what we have. Keep the faith as much as I’m as frustrated as you are. I thought we looked miles off it. Second half we had one chance and that was gifted to us when West Brom gave the ball away on the edge of their own area. Other than that we were devoid of any idea how to create an opportunity. The manager takes the blame for that, mainly because he made such a mess with the substitutions, that it gave us no structure and we were all over the place.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 25, 2024 9:50:16 GMT
Wanted to reflect after two very long journeys which can distort the view on a day , but I’d be very concerned on a number of fronts yesterday . 1 Juno is not a false 9 or 10 so we’ve now an issue with fitting in good players in one or two positions ., He just doesn’t see the pictures to play there 2 How the manager with literally half a dozen midfielders to select thinks gooch on the left to stop furlong effectively playing two left backs is our most positive option is totally bewildering and telling . 3 The keeper is too short and teams have already spotted it float it it up high and slow and let Chaos commence. 4 Bocat seems stuck in the middle neither adding value as a attacking option or defending like a proper left back Steven’s undoubtedly better and I thunk he’ll start soon as he’s fit 5 Junior just isn’t up to it poor both ways just not got it at this level the loss of hooever killing us 6 Moran is a replica of cundle so we don’t need both but did little to siggest he’s as good 7 ,Though the centre backs were ok 8, We clear;t would benefit from the physical presence pf lawal and Gallagher and the latter can reap;y help the clea;rt talented million , Koufax and Juno 9 The movement of home fans seems to have totally ripped the ground of true singlr end hostileot dovodoeng the stoke support and giving the advantage to th away location clearly not everything . Like so much well intended but not the outcome envisaged But most of all while we are a different club in so many aspects than last May the concern has to be the manager clearly doesn’t believe he has what he needs and there is 4 days to solve that , my big fear is not being a SJW man the next twist will be the tried and tested autumn departure as results haven’t worked out . yesterdays performance gets you beaten at Plymouth and Oxford and while he says they can still get their target for the frost batch of games it clearly wasn’t 3 and it would put huge pressure on the next batch starting with a very tricky Hull Friday night That actually sums it up rather well. Everything just seems not quite there, creating a muddle that nobody has a grip of. Way too early this season to talk of Schumacher going, but we’ve definitely gone backwards from where we finished last season it would seem. Injured players and new signings need to hit the ground running and then some.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 25, 2024 9:54:10 GMT
I’m not sure many posters watched the game. I did and I don’t think we are far off it. Their first goal was a good ball in and a naive defender and poor positioning from Johanssen from being prevented. The second was inexperienced inexcusable crud. We had chances and Koumas better be leading the line as he’s streets ahead of what we have. Keep the faith as much as I’m as frustrated as you are. I thought we looked miles off it. Second half we had one chance and that was gifted to us when West Brom gave the ball away on the edge of their own area. Other than that we were devoid of any idea how to create an opportunity. The manager takes the blame for that, mainly because he made such a mess with the substitutions, that it gave us no structure and we were all over the place. It looked to me like nothing beyond picking 11 players had been thought about. When we were 2-1 down with 10-15 minutes to go, we should have been the ones on the front foot attacking. Instead we couldn’t get the ball off them and there was no shape or plan to win it back and attack if we did get possession. It’s about the worst chase of a Stoke team being behind that I can remember. Dreadful.
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Post by a on Aug 25, 2024 11:51:47 GMT
I’m not sure many posters watched the game. I did and I don’t think we are far off it. Their first goal was a good ball in and a naive defender and poor positioning from Johanssen from being prevented. The second was inexperienced inexcusable crud. We had chances and Koumas better be leading the line as he’s streets ahead of what we have. Keep the faith as much as I’m as frustrated as you are. I thought we looked miles off it. Second half we had one chance and that was gifted to us when West Brom gave the ball away on the edge of their own area. Other than that we were devoid of any idea how to create an opportunity. The manager takes the blame for that, mainly because he made such a mess with the substitutions, that it gave us no structure and we were all over the place. I didn’t see it as that bad, but maybe my standards have dropped 😂
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