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Post by a on Aug 17, 2024 22:10:32 GMT
Yep that’s exactly what I’ve said. Embarrassing 😂 keep going youth It is exactly what you’ve said 🤣 Quote me then. Go on. Everyone must get loaned out? Please amuse me or stop lying. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 17, 2024 22:14:06 GMT
It is exactly what you’ve said 🤣 Quote me then. Go on. Everyone must get loaned out? Please amuse me or stop lying. It’s the Stoke fan way. You’re not alone. Our best young player should be staying here and getting game time. |
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Post by a on Aug 17, 2024 22:15:16 GMT
Quote me then. Go on. Everyone must get loaned out? Please amuse me or stop lying. It’s the Stoke fan way. You’re not alone. Our best young player should be staying here and getting game time. So you can’t quote me? Didn’t think so Billy bullshitter. Nice try tho jackanory. |
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Post by redandy on Aug 17, 2024 22:16:07 GMT
Like I say, embarrassing… 😳 It is. Wanting to loan every fucker out rather than actually wanting to develop a player here. God forbid. Throwing a young (unproven at this level) forward on and expecting him to swim alone up front may be more damaging in the long run. He's undoubtedley a talented kid, but he needs to get used to senior football. There's nothing wrong in getting him out on loan if we have other options, which we dont right now other than Ryan, Lowe isn't ready either. We need them to develop, it doesn't have to be here and being 3rd choice will definitley see him playing less football, it's the same for all of our young players. Even Beckham earned his stripes at Preston, it's how it works and you dont need to be so opposed / defensive over the idea. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 17, 2024 22:16:34 GMT
It’s the Stoke fan way. You’re not alone. Our best young player should be staying here and getting game time. So you can’t quote me? Didn’t think so Billy bullshitter. Nice try tho jackanory. So do you think any of them should stay? 🤣 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 17, 2024 22:17:14 GMT
It is. Wanting to loan every fucker out rather than actually wanting to develop a player here. God forbid. Throwing a young (unproven at this level) forward on and expecting him to swim alone up front may be more damaging in the long run. He's undoubtedley a talented kid, but he needs to get used to senior football. There's nothing wrong in getting him out on loan if we have other options, which we dont right now other than Ryan, Lowe isn't ready either. We need them to develop, it doesn't have to be here and being 3rd choice will definitley see him playing less football, it's the same for all of our young players. Even Beckham earned his stripes at Preston, it's how it works and you dont need to be so opposed / defensive over the idea. He’s done that. He needs to stay here now. |
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Post by a on Aug 17, 2024 22:19:50 GMT
So you can’t quote me? Didn’t think so Billy bullshitter. Nice try tho jackanory. So do you think any of them should stay? 🤣 You tell me jackanory, you’ve claimed I want ALL of them loaned out. You sounded so sure before but not now? How predictable |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 17, 2024 22:20:46 GMT
So do you think any of them should stay? 🤣 You tell me jackanory, you’ve claimed I want ALL of them loaned out. You sounded so sure before but not now? How predictable That’s just confirmed it. |
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Post by a on Aug 17, 2024 22:21:43 GMT
It is. Wanting to loan every fucker out rather than actually wanting to develop a player here. God forbid. Throwing a young (unproven at this level) forward on and expecting him to swim alone up front may be more damaging in the long run. He's undoubtedley a talented kid, but he needs to get used to senior football. There's nothing wrong in getting him out on loan if we have other options, which we dont right now other than Ryan, Lowe isn't ready either. We need them to develop, it doesn't have to be here and being 3rd choice will definitley see him playing less football, it's the same for all of our young players. Even Beckham earned his stripes at Preston, it's how it works and you dont need to be so opposed / defensive over the idea. I agree, I don’t think the service is good enough either and it’ll be interesting to see what the squad looks like at the close of the window. Hopefully some more quality up top gets added. |
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Post by a on Aug 17, 2024 22:22:23 GMT
You tell me jackanory, you’ve claimed I want ALL of them loaned out. You sounded so sure before but not now? How predictable That’s just confirmed it. Confirmed you’re a liar yes. I’ll leave it at that because we all know you have to have the last word. Just try not to lie again tho |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Aug 17, 2024 22:25:02 GMT
Throwing a young (unproven at this level) forward on and expecting him to swim alone up front may be more damaging in the long run. He's undoubtedley a talented kid, but he needs to get used to senior football. There's nothing wrong in getting him out on loan if we have other options, which we dont right now other than Ryan, Lowe isn't ready either. We need them to develop, it doesn't have to be here and being 3rd choice will definitley see him playing less football, it's the same for all of our young players. Even Beckham earned his stripes at Preston, it's how it works and you dont need to be so opposed / defensive over the idea. I agree, I don’t think the service is good enough either and it’ll be interesting to see what the squad looks like at the close of the window. Hopefully some more quality up top gets added. Not a case of hopefully. Has to be. |
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 17, 2024 22:55:46 GMT
Junho, Koumas and Moran need to start, as does a desperately needed new centre forward. Most today could not complain if they were dropped, bar probably Milly. Not all can be, obviously.
I'd hope none of Junior, Thommo, Laurent, Burger, Gooch (maybe at RB but NOT LW) or Tezgel start. I'd add Wilmot to that list if we had another senior CB.
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Post by senojbor on Aug 17, 2024 23:43:13 GMT
I’d rather scratch my eyes out than watch Tchamadeu play another minute after the first 3 games of the season. He is clearly nowhere near the required standard He does seem to have some good attributes but just lacks decent decision making at the moment. Hopefully he comes good but it’s concerning how much our flanks were exploited today, on both sides to be fair. Bob on but it's about formations and we had players who didn't help the full backs. Bad day at the office today but we'll come good. Just a blip |
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 18, 2024 7:39:18 GMT
I’d rather scratch my eyes out than watch Tchamadeu play another minute after the first 3 games of the season. He is clearly nowhere near the required standard Thought he had a very good first half against Coventry, but all in all has looked a bit dodgy, yes. He also needs to be instructed to close down players earlier as I think he is too hesitant in certain situations.  |
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 18, 2024 7:50:17 GMT
Junior hasn't been at his best since his return from the AFCON last year in my opinion, and I really don't understand why. He seems to have lost some of the aggression when he closes down players. Now, he is way too hesitant and needs to close down players much faster. There is a player in there, but he needs to grab his chance now. Gooch is certainly not an alternative and should never be anything but just a back-up player (or preferably offloaded). Anyway we are crying out load for a decent striker up front to lead the line. Tezgel in my opinion really should have another loan despite what Bayern thinks of this. He needs game time, but he isn't good enough for this level yet.  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 18, 2024 8:40:27 GMT
With what’s currently available:
Johanson
Junior Dixon Gibson Bocat
Thompson Burger
Manhoef Junho Koumas
Mmaee
Try to get ahead and then bring Moran and Tezgel on for Junho and Mmaee after 60 minutes.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Aug 18, 2024 8:50:42 GMT
With what’s currently available: Johanson Junior Dixon Gibson Bocat Thompson Burger Manhoef Junho Koumas Mmaee Try to get ahead and then bring Moran and Tezgel on for Junho and Mmaee after 60 minutes. Agree with that team including playing Dixon next to Gibson at the back. If Lawal is fit (not sure how long until he is) then I would put him in instead of Thompson and obviously if we bring a striker in then they will go in instead of Mmaee. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 18, 2024 8:52:07 GMT
With what’s currently available: Johanson Junior Dixon Gibson Bocat Thompson Burger Manhoef Junho Koumas Mmaee Try to get ahead and then bring Moran and Tezgel on for Junho and Mmaee after 60 minutes. Agree with that team including playing Dixon next to Gibson at the back. If Lawal is fit (not sure how long until he is) then I would put him in instead of Thompson and obviously if we bring a striker in then they will go in instead of Mmaee. Lawal sounds like he’s out for a while based on what they’re not saying? But yeah they’d both go in if we’ve got them and same for a centre back. We desperately need one. |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 18, 2024 8:53:13 GMT
With what’s currently available: Johanson Junior Dixon Gibson Bocat Thompson Burger Manhoef Junho Koumas Mmaee Try to get ahead and then bring Moran and Tezgel on for Junho and Mmaee after 60 minutes. Is Dixon a CB? Played the last two games RB and looks more of a RB to me… |
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Post by sealion100 on Aug 18, 2024 8:53:36 GMT
Hopefully we’ll get a striker in as Tezgal just isn’t ready yet. Midfield is a big problem as I doubt Lawal will be back. I’d go Johansson Gooch (if fit) Gibson Wilmot Bocat Burger Thompson Moran Manhouf Mae Bae Probably the best side we could put out that Cobham ! However that’s a considerable weaker side than the one that finished last season on a high, poor window so far !! |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 18, 2024 8:54:22 GMT
Johansson
Tchamadeau
Wilmot
Gibson
Bocat
Thompson
Burger
Manhoeff
Bae Junho
Koumas
Mmaee
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 18, 2024 8:54:23 GMT
With what’s currently available: Johanson Junior Dixon Gibson Bocat Thompson Burger Manhoef Junho Koumas Mmaee Try to get ahead and then bring Moran and Tezgel on for Junho and Mmaee after 60 minutes. Is Dixon a CB? Played the last two games RB and looks more of a RB to me… Yes he’s a centre back. |
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Post by delilahwhy on Aug 18, 2024 8:57:14 GMT
I'm not overly concerned by yesterday.
With Junho and Mmaee in the side, we'll be instantly, significantly better.
Wouldn't be surpised to see Moran start too, after a full week of training.
Manhoef Moran Junho
Mmaee
Home win.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Aug 18, 2024 8:57:47 GMT
Agree with that team including playing Dixon next to Gibson at the back. If Lawal is fit (not sure how long until he is) then I would put him in instead of Thompson and obviously if we bring a striker in then they will go in instead of Mmaee. Lawal sounds like he’s out for a while based on what they’re not saying? But yeah they’d both go in if we’ve got them and same for a centre back. We desperately need one. That's shite if that's the case as I'm looking forward to seeing him in there. Looks like a midfielder who can do the dirty stuff well but also one that can carry the ball and pick out a pass. Agree regarding a centre back mate. |
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Post by sportsman on Aug 18, 2024 9:08:26 GMT
Didn’t watch the game yesterday but just seen the highlights. For me junior shouldn’t play for us again until he’s either ready or wakes up, and Wilmot can’t find a stoke shirt.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 18, 2024 11:10:00 GMT
Didn’t watch the game yesterday but just seen the highlights. For me junior shouldn’t play for us again until he’s either ready or wakes up, and Wilmot can’t find a stoke shirt. Wilmot would have trouble finding a Stoke shirt in the club shop. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 18, 2024 13:33:32 GMT
Didn’t watch the game yesterday but just seen the highlights. For me junior shouldn’t play for us again until he’s either ready or wakes up, and Wilmot can’t find a stoke shirt. Wilmot would have trouble finding a Stoke shirt in the club shop. Hopefully orange/yellow and black will be easier to see for him? |
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Post by pavel on Aug 18, 2024 14:22:31 GMT
Johansson
Dixon (yeah he’s 17 but Junior scares me)
Gibson
Wilmot
Bocat
Lawal (on one leg if necessary)
Burger
Moran
JunHo
Mmaee or Tezgel ( if nobody in)
Million
I don’t want to see a midfield of Thompson, Laurent and burger again, it just doesn’t work. However I just suspect we will see Moran as the only change to midfield.
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Post by shrewspotter on Aug 18, 2024 14:25:59 GMT
If we don't sign anyone it be tempted to go for a 3-4-2-1 formation with Junior right side of a back 3, get Gooch at rwb which I believe is his best position and Bocat on the other. I'd then have 2 holding (Thompson and Burger). 2 in front of Million and Junho behind Mmaee.
I'm not really a fan of wingbacks but both Bocat and Gooch may benefit from it.
That said I'm hoping for 3 players, a centre half, Right back and forward and we go do a 4-3-3
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Post by st3mark on Aug 18, 2024 14:41:55 GMT
4231 (it always seems to serve us the best)
Vik (terrible game but got to stick with him)
Junior (bad couple of games but this is how you develop players. Can't throw them under the bus so quickly)
Gibson
Wilmot
Bocat (OK at home, bad at Watford. Needs time)
Burger (bad start, tweak in formation could help. He's our best midfielder at the end of the day)
Thompson (undropable for now. Reassess when lawal is fit.)
Manhoef
Moran
Koumas
Mmaee (if he's fit enough)
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