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Post by bertieb on Aug 14, 2024 20:41:02 GMT
How come the Blackburns and the Coventry's of this world seem to keep their stars strikers midfielders etc for two or three seasons before clubs come knocking, we have ours for half a season to a season and seems like every fucker wants them, does my nut in to be honest.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 14, 2024 20:43:06 GMT
I’m sure all their stars are rumoured about, we just don’t hear about it because we’re not in their bubble
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Post by chuckrocky on Aug 14, 2024 20:46:34 GMT
There hasn’t been any credible links to any of our better players.
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Aug 14, 2024 20:47:09 GMT
How come the Blackburns and the Coventry's of this world seem to keep their stars strikers midfielders etc for two or three seasons before clubs come knocking, we have ours for half a season to a season and seems like every fucker wants them, does my nut in to be honest. Who have we sold?
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Post by Marc01 on Aug 14, 2024 20:48:11 GMT
How come the Blackburns and the Coventry's of this world seem to keep their stars strikers midfielders etc for two or three seasons before clubs come knocking, we have ours for half a season to a season and seems like every fucker wants them, does my nut in to be honest. Historically, I doubt that a “selling club” policy has seen us progress on the pitch. Though perhaps the sales of Kavanagh and Thorne were beneficial, seeing that we won promotion within a year of their departure in 2001/2002.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 14, 2024 20:51:29 GMT
They have both sold their best players 🤷♂️🤣
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Post by jay1610 on Aug 14, 2024 20:54:27 GMT
How come the Blackburns and the Coventry's of this world seem to keep their stars strikers midfielders etc for two or three seasons before clubs come knocking, we have ours for half a season to a season and seems like every fucker wants them, does my nut in to be honest. Historically, I doubt that a “selling club” policy has seen us progress on the pitch. Though perhaps the sales of Kavanagh and Thorne were beneficial, seeing that we won promotion within a year of their departure in 2001/2002. We also sold Danny Higginbotham for decent money at the start of 07/08.
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Post by delilahwhy on Aug 14, 2024 20:55:27 GMT
Nobody gets to keep their stars. Not at this level.
The best you can hope for is to hold on to them for as long as you can, and maximise the return when you do move them on.
It's a sign you're doing things right when you have that problem.
If you get it right longterm it's less of an issue.
It should ideally be a conveyor belt.
Rinse and repeat.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 14, 2024 20:55:32 GMT
How come the Blackburns and the Coventry's of this world seem to keep their stars strikers midfielders etc for two or three seasons before clubs come knocking, we have ours for half a season to a season and seems like every fucker wants them, does my nut in to be honest. Has someone left?
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Post by baconburger on Aug 14, 2024 20:55:42 GMT
They have both sold their best players 🤷♂️🤣 Not always sometimes they even got nothing for them
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Aug 14, 2024 20:58:52 GMT
‘Stars’ 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by danceswithclams on Aug 14, 2024 21:00:06 GMT
How come the Blackburns and the Coventry's of this world seem to keep their stars strikers midfielders etc for two or three seasons before clubs come knocking, we have ours for half a season to a season and seems like every fucker wants them, does my nut in to be honest. Can't believe it's half a season to a season since those slags came in for our 'stars', it still freaks me nut out to this day.
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Post by bertieb on Aug 14, 2024 21:11:28 GMT
I’m sure all their stars are rumoured about, we just don’t hear about it because we’re not in their bubble Fair point
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Post by bertieb on Aug 14, 2024 21:25:53 GMT
How come the Blackburns and the Coventry's of this world seem to keep their stars strikers midfielders etc for two or three seasons before clubs come knocking, we have ours for half a season to a season and seems like every fucker wants them, does my nut in to be honest. Has someone left? No, but that was not the point I was trying to make, it just seems we don't get to enjoy our better players for a couple of seasons or so before the rumours start, and they fuck off and for peanuts in the main.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 14, 2024 21:30:41 GMT
No, but that was not the point I was trying to make, it just seems we don't get to enjoy our better players for a couple of seasons or so before the rumours start, and they fuck off and for peanuts in the main. I can't think of anyone
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 14, 2024 21:30:42 GMT
No, but that was not the point I was trying to make, it just seems we don't get to enjoy our better players for a couple of seasons or so before the rumours start, and they fuck off and for peanuts in the main. Like who?
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Aug 14, 2024 21:31:38 GMT
Off the top of my head Coventry sold Gyokeres, and Blackburn sold Wharton in the last couple windows. Selling players for a profit is what we will need to do to make it back to the prem. If a big profit on one or two players can net us 5-6 decent signings we will be heading in the right direction.
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Post by jzime on Aug 14, 2024 21:52:10 GMT
We haven't sold any of our best players, and nor will we.
There have been a few transfer links and rumours, but that's pretty ordinary these days; the world of sports journalism is pretty saturated and the stories don't write themselves. It's not like in days gone by where if a club was informally scouting or keeping tabs on players, the papers might not hear about it until there was a solid link or a bid. These days, journalists are so well-connected that clubs are very leaky and they hear pretty much everything. Plus, you know, some stories will be rumours altogether with no credible legs at all.
None of the stories mean Stoke will sell. And nor should we. We've signed a few players this summer, so it doesn't look like there is any financial pressure to sell. At this point in the window, I can't see us accepting anything other than astronomical bid or Bae, Burger or Manhoef; and I doubt any particularly clubs will put in any astronomical bids for players who've had one good season in the second division. Imho, it actually suits everybody (Stoke, any potential buyers, and the players themselves) to stay for at least one more season at a club where they are guaranteed regular fixtures and will develop than to move right now.
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Post by Marc01 on Aug 14, 2024 22:11:07 GMT
Historically, I doubt that a “selling club” policy has seen us progress on the pitch. Though perhaps the sales of Kavanagh and Thorne were beneficial, seeing that we won promotion within a year of their departure in 2001/2002. We also sold Danny Higginbotham for decent money at the start of 07/08. Coincidentally, the former Gibraltar international 🙂, DH came into my head after posting that. I suppose selling DH for a ten fold profit to Sunderland in the PL, within a year of buying him, was slightly different than those sales to Cardiff (as a direct rival). We had become a buying club from the Coates takeover in 2006, and I expect that DH forced the sale. Contrary to how it was originally reported, apparently, Kavanagh wanted to stay and Thorne wanted to leave; so potentially a case of being forced into the second sale, rather than an ongoing selling policy when desperately trying to get promotion.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Aug 14, 2024 22:15:36 GMT
Nobody gets to keep their stars. Not at this level. The best you can hope for is to hold on to them for as long as you can, and maximise the return when you do move them on. It's a sign you're doing things right when you have that problem. If you get it right longterm it's less of an issue. It should ideally be a conveyor belt. Rinse and repeat. I think this is true of every single club unless you’re one of about 5 at best elite clubs in the world It’s all in the timing of the sale
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Post by paulkoz on Aug 14, 2024 22:20:15 GMT
I’m sure all their stars are rumoured about, we just don’t hear about it because we’re not in their bubble Exactly my thoughts every club will get it to some degree being fans of Stoke we just get it from our perspectiv3.
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Post by walrus on Aug 15, 2024 7:50:09 GMT
Blackburn are a weird club to highlight. They screwed up royally by not cashing in big on Brereton when they had the chance and ended up having him leave on a free. If we’d done that you’d never hear the end of it on here.
Szmodzics is also an unusual case as although he’s only really made a name for himself in the last year he’s 28 so doesn’t have the potential value of other breakthrough players so is less attractive to suitors, although there’s still every chance he’ll move this window.
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Post by bertiestan on Aug 15, 2024 7:53:08 GMT
Calm down youth….with a username like that you need to, don’t want people confusing me with a knicker wetter like yourself🤷♂️🔴⚪️
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Post by J-Roar on Aug 15, 2024 7:54:11 GMT
No, but that was not the point I was trying to make, it just seems we don't get to enjoy our better players for a couple of seasons or so before the rumours start, and they fuck off and for peanuts in the main. Like who? Neil Adams is the last one I can remember.🤣
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Post by karl on Aug 15, 2024 8:58:00 GMT
We should only sell when we have a ready made replacement to take over. That's how other successful clubs do it.
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Post by senojbor on Aug 15, 2024 10:15:44 GMT
There's a big fat NOT FOR SALE sign by the names of Bae and Manhoef. They are on long contracts and we don't need to sell at all
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Post by hd51 on Aug 15, 2024 10:27:06 GMT
Is it me thinking too much into what Pete said but he has came out publicly and said we aren't looking to sell Bae and Million but he hasn't commented about Burger. Could that potentially mean if a bid comes in then he is likely to go?
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Post by J-Roar on Aug 15, 2024 10:38:50 GMT
There's a big fat NOT FOR SALE sign by the names of Bae and Manhoef. They are on long contracts and we don't need to sell at all If a player wants to move they generally get the move.
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Post by cotswoldstokie on Aug 15, 2024 10:56:55 GMT
Viktor Gyokeres: Coventry City sell striker to Sporting Lisbon for club record fee
Trust me all championships sell when the right money comes calling
Blackburn will be sell ng Sammy Smodicz too
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Post by anchorman on Aug 15, 2024 11:01:56 GMT
Nobody gets to keep their stars. Not at this level. The best you can hope for is to hold on to them for as long as you can, and maximise the return when you do move them on. It's a sign you're doing things right when you have that problem. If you get it right longterm it's less of an issue. It should ideally be a conveyor belt. Rinse and repeat. The answer is promotion. That’s how you keep hold of your star players, be successful.
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