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Post by emretezzy on Sept 5, 2024 10:31:16 GMT
No I like free Internet... of course I do. Same as I would like free fuel. Free Gas and Electricty. Free travel. Free Rent. Etc... And you think all of those have a similar cost base? You're so funny đ Well let's have a look at that.. We have worse Internet infrastructure than countries like Hungary and Romania. So when you say free Internet, what did it actually mean, free shitty Internet that doesn't work if you live more than 5 mins from a city and isn't capable of Fibre Optic. A better policy would have been to say cap prices at a reasonable amount with a pledge to improve infrastructure to fibre optic and bring this country kicking and screaming into the 21st century. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 5, 2024 10:42:13 GMT
I donât think they could have been worse than where we are now. Huddy would have had free Internet which surely is a current a drain on his expenses with the amount of searching for Lefty Twitter nonsense he currently shares. Living in an extreme Socislist Dystopia might be alright, I just don't want to be the Guinea Pig to find out. You obviously donât know what Corbynâs policies were if you describe them as extreme socialism. He wasnât Pol Pot. I do like your first comment though. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 5, 2024 10:43:06 GMT
I find your comment on him being "antisemitic" disgraceful and false. Read what I have written, it often helps. I have - you say one of his flaws was "antisemitism"? Have I read that wrong? |
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 5, 2024 10:46:09 GMT
It's not about cost. It's about cost v the socio-economic benefits that a particular policy brings. Free travel is actually being adopted across many countries/cities in Europe for the exact same reason........ In practise it sounds great. I just don't think anything should be free. Correctly subsidised, incentives whatever.. I just think free fundamentally is flawed and sends the wrong message. I spend a few weeks a year in Geneva, as you say they adopted free Buses and trams, but a regular meal is about ÂŁ30 and all the working residents have to cross the border to France to do any form of basic shopping. It's a gimic as GDP is garnered elsewhere. Calling the police shouldnât be free? Access to a doctor or ambulance shouldnât be free? House is on fire. Call the fire brigade. Sorry I cannot afford it. Let the whole street burn. All children should have to pay for education and it shouldnât be free? What an awful world you wish to live in. |
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Post by emretezzy on Sept 5, 2024 10:46:33 GMT
Huddy would have had free Internet which surely is a current a drain on his expenses with the amount of searching for Lefty Twitter nonsense he currently shares. Living in an extreme Socislist Dystopia might be alright, I just don't want to be the Guinea Pig to find out. You obviously donât know what Corbynâs policies were if you describe them as extreme socialism. He wasnât Pol Pot. I do like your first comment though. Thanks. Maybe not Pol Pot but I'd certainly have preffered a Cambodian Farmer to Corbyn. Free Rice. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 5, 2024 10:48:06 GMT
It's not about cost. It's about cost v the socio-economic benefits that a particular policy brings. Free travel is actually being adopted across many countries/cities in Europe for the exact same reason........ In practise it sounds great. I just don't think anything should be free. Correctly subsidised, incentives whatever.. I just think free fundamentally is flawed and sends the wrong message. I spend a few weeks a year in Geneva, as you say they adopted free Buses and trams, but a regular meal is about ÂŁ30 and all the working residents have to cross the border to France to do any form of basic shopping. It's a gimic as GDP is garnered elsewhere. The key is it's free but the benefits outweigh the cost...... |
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Post by emretezzy on Sept 5, 2024 10:48:08 GMT
In practise it sounds great. I just don't think anything should be free. Correctly subsidised, incentives whatever.. I just think free fundamentally is flawed and sends the wrong message. I spend a few weeks a year in Geneva, as you say they adopted free Buses and trams, but a regular meal is about ÂŁ30 and all the working residents have to cross the border to France to do any form of basic shopping. It's a gimic as GDP is garnered elsewhere. Calling the police shouldnât be free? Access to a doctor or ambulance shouldnât be free? House is on fire. Call the fire brigade. Sorry I cannot afford it. Let the whole street burn. All children should have to pay for education and it shouldnât be free? What an awful world you wish to live in. I'll spell it out for you Oggy. A NON government funded privatley owned Service shouldn't be free no. I thought that would have been obvious. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 5, 2024 10:50:38 GMT
In practise it sounds great. I just don't think anything should be free. Correctly subsidised, incentives whatever.. I just think free fundamentally is flawed and sends the wrong message. I spend a few weeks a year in Geneva, as you say they adopted free Buses and trams, but a regular meal is about ÂŁ30 and all the working residents have to cross the border to France to do any form of basic shopping. It's a gimic as GDP is garnered elsewhere. The key is it's free but the benefits outweigh the cost...... This appears to be the connection he's struggling to make. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 5, 2024 10:50:38 GMT
Calling the police shouldnât be free? Access to a doctor or ambulance shouldnât be free? House is on fire. Call the fire brigade. Sorry I cannot afford it. Let the whole street burn. All children should have to pay for education and it shouldnât be free? What an awful world you wish to live in. I'll spell it out for you Oggy. A NON government funded privatley owned Service shouldn't be free no. I thought that would have been obvious. You agree with Corbyn then because he was planning to make it a government funded service and then not charge citizens for it. Like state education, or the nhs, or emergency services etc. |
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Post by Veritas on Sept 5, 2024 10:52:59 GMT
Read what I have written, it often helps. I have - you say one of his flaws was "antisemitism"? Have I read that wrong? Yes you have, I said his response to the Salisbury poisonings and anti semitism. I accused Corbyn of neither anti semitism or the poisonings. |
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Post by emretezzy on Sept 5, 2024 10:53:48 GMT
I'll spell it out for you Oggy. A NON government funded privatley owned Service shouldn't be free no. I thought that would have been obvious. You agree with Corbyn then because he was planning to make it a government funded service and then not charge citizens for it. Like state education, or the nhs, or emergency services etc. Cute.. Now in the real world how did he plan on putting a world leading infrastructure into place when no fucker is paying for it. 95% of the population don't want free shoddy Internet. They want Internet that works and don't mind paying for it. Hence this gimmik didn't get him very far on the ballot sheet. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 5, 2024 10:55:03 GMT
I have - you say one of his flaws was "antisemitism"? Have I read that wrong? Yes you have, I said his response to the Salisbury poisonings and anti semitism. I accused Corbyn of neither anti semitism or the poisonings. I agree reference the reaction to alleged antisemitism in Labour. He should have gone on the front foot and called it out for the McCarthyite bullshit that it was............ |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 5, 2024 11:00:25 GMT
You agree with Corbyn then because he was planning to make it a government funded service and then not charge citizens for it. Like state education, or the nhs, or emergency services etc. Cute.. Now in the real world how did he plan on putting a world leading infrastructure into place when no fucker is paying for it. 95% of the population don't want free shoddy Internet. They want Internet that works and don't mind paying for it. Hence this gimmik didn't get him very far on the ballot sheet. The free (or subsidised) internet was high speed that was the point to bring the infrastructure in line with other leading economies. Simply shouting "free stuff" is all well and good but the alternative is the current capitalist model of charging more for less....... |
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Post by thisisouryear on Sept 5, 2024 11:03:03 GMT
Free internet was a great idea. All those kids at the bottom with access to all that information could have transformed their lives. Corbyn understands levelling up more than any other politician. His views on defence were worrying but that aside he's a true man of the people and was really on our side Luckily he get kicked into the curb by the PEOPLE. I don't know why half of you don't move to Islington. Be paradise down there. Palestinian flag waving. Free twitter. No one pays for anything. Bloody bliss Let's have a fake Union Jack waving government instead whose every intention is to serve the rich at everyone's expense. I don't remember Corbyn or anyone like Corbyn being responsible for the decades of decline I see day in day out. All I have ever seen is decline and it's still declining but hey let's ignore that. We can't even get a fucking pot hole fixed FFS but still we are lucky not to have Corbyn running the country |
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 5, 2024 11:03:07 GMT
You agree with Corbyn then because he was planning to make it a government funded service and then not charge citizens for it. Like state education, or the nhs, or emergency services etc. Cute.. Now in the real world how did he plan on putting a world leading infrastructure into place when no fucker is paying for it. 95% of the population don't want free shoddy Internet. They want Internet that works and don't mind paying for it. Hence this gimmik didn't get him very far on the ballot sheet. If other countries with much smaller economies can do it, then why not us? |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 5, 2024 11:14:13 GMT
I have - you say one of his flaws was "antisemitism"? Have I read that wrong? Yes you have, I said his response to the Salisbury poisonings and anti semitism. I accused Corbyn of neither anti semitism or the poisonings. Apologies, my error. |
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Post by elystokie on Sept 5, 2024 11:16:33 GMT
And you think all of those have a similar cost base? You're so funny đ Well let's have a look at that.. We have worse Internet infrastructure than countries like Hungary and Romania. So when you say free Internet, what did it actually mean, free shitty Internet that doesn't work if you live more than 5 mins from a city and isn't capable of Fibre Optic. A better policy would have been to say cap prices at a reasonable amount with a pledge to improve infrastructure to fibre optic and bring this country kicking and screaming into the 21st century. What does that have to do with the radically different costs of the items you listed and free internet when it comes to providing them? |
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Post by Veritas on Sept 5, 2024 11:16:41 GMT
Yes you have, I said his response to the Salisbury poisonings and anti semitism. I accused Corbyn of neither anti semitism or the poisonings. Apologies, my error. Accepted |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 5, 2024 11:22:53 GMT
Posters still going on about this vile cretinđ¤ˇââď¸Heâs history thank god
Alleged links to the IRA,Hamas etc
His proposal of no nuclear deterrent
His hatred of the Jewish population
A very dangerous individual who thankfully the British public sent packing
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Post by frasier37 on Sept 5, 2024 11:24:08 GMT
I used to dislike him, but thinking about it, hes the only leader that seemed to actually cared for the working class. the others just want their noses deep in the trough. when i say others i mean all....starmer included I am absolutely convinced our country would be in a far better position now had he won at some point. I'd like to say the same, but I think all the Pigs in the EU and US plus the enemy within would make sure that wouldnt be impossible |
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Post by Gawa on Sept 5, 2024 11:33:52 GMT
So who was writing these articles for the daily mail under other people's names? #ItWasAScam What are we seeing here? Did Frances "Casandra" Coppola have a Bobby Ewing episode and emerge from the shower 5 years later to discover she didn't write a Article for the Daily Mail? Please tell me its Coppola's naive Economic scribblings that are being called out Or are we revisisting Corbyns attendance with Jewdas at Passover Seder Or is it Corbyn's Lieutenant Lansman's criticism of Jewdas that is being questioned Whichever it is I retain the right to be offended # rightlefton Haven't you got 2 child benefit caps, slumdog landlords, zionist shitlords or winter fuel allowance removals to be defending Wannabee? |
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Post by salopstick on Sept 5, 2024 12:07:05 GMT
Posters still going on about this vile cretinđ¤ˇââď¸Heâs history thank god Links to the IRA,Hamas etc His proposal of no nuclear deterrent His hatred of the Jewish population A very dangerous individual who thankfully the British public sent packing Some (not of all) of his crusades are admirable, however they often come before his service to the uk |
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Post by wannabee on Sept 5, 2024 12:24:34 GMT
What are we seeing here? Did Frances "Casandra" Coppola have a Bobby Ewing episode and emerge from the shower 5 years later to discover she didn't write a Article for the Daily Mail? Please tell me its Coppola's naive Economic scribblings that are being called out Or are we revisisting Corbyns attendance with Jewdas at Passover Seder Or is it Corbyn's Lieutenant Lansman's criticism of Jewdas that is being questioned Whichever it is I retain the right to be offended # rightlefton Haven't you got 2 child benefit caps, slumdog landlords, zionist shitlords or winter fuel allowance removals to be defending Wannabee? Where or when have I supported any of those? I have pre/post GE despaired at the incompetent Economic decisions of the previous administration. From the public announcements made so far by the Labour administration I believe they are heading in the right direction given the weakness in the economy growth rate and productivity. I will wait for the official Fiscal Event in October before passing judgment Your one trick pony solution is "Tax the Rich" which I've pointed out doesn't work as Capital unlike Assets are mobile A report just before GE finds UK is second only to China and 9,500 Millionaires are about to up sticks. I'm sure you'll say good riddance but you can't Tax what doesn't exist. Even if each of those millionaires had ONLY ÂŁ1M each that would be ÂŁ10Bn removed from the Tax Net but realistically it will be much much more In the UK, several factors contribute to the outflow:
The UKâs exit from the European Union (Brexit) has created long-term economic and political uncertainties
The potential for higher taxes on the wealthy, including plans to end preferential treatment for non-domiciled residents if Keir Starmer comes to power
With an election approaching, policy decisions targeting the rich are driving them to relocate
www.firstpost.com/explainers/why-are-the-uk-and-china-are-set-to-face-the-biggest-exodus-of-millionaires-in-the-world-13783964.html
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 5, 2024 12:39:28 GMT
Posters still going on about this vile cretinđ¤ˇââď¸Heâs history thank god Links to the IRA,Hamas etc His proposal of no nuclear deterrent His hatred of the Jewish population A very dangerous individual who thankfully the British public sent packing I do hope his lawyers pick this up. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 5, 2024 12:44:29 GMT
Posters still going on about this vile cretinđ¤ˇââď¸Heâs history thank god Links to the IRA,Hamas etc His proposal of no nuclear deterrent His hatred of the Jewish population A very dangerous individual who thankfully the British public sent packing I do hope his lawyers pick this up. Its all there for everyone to see but only fan boys like yourself canât see it |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 5, 2024 13:19:07 GMT
I know nothing and care even less about politics but for someone who I believe is anti war etc, he's the bravest soul on the planet
I mean ...Diane F- Abbott.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 5, 2024 13:39:17 GMT
I do hope his lawyers pick this up. Its all there for everyone to see but only fan boys like yourself canât see it You have absolutely no evidence at all. If you have, publish it on here please. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 5, 2024 18:03:27 GMT
Its all there for everyone to see but only fan boys like yourself canât see it You have absolutely no evidence at all. If you have, publish it on here please. As I said just open the search engine and bingo |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 6, 2024 5:56:24 GMT
You have absolutely no evidence at all. If you have, publish it on here please. As I said just open the search engine and bingo So nothing then. I'll take Corbyn every time over the fascist dickheads that you appear to adore. |
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Post by Ariel Manto on Sept 6, 2024 20:43:12 GMT
I do hope his lawyers pick this up. Its all there for everyone to see but only fan boys like yourself canât see it That's frighteningly simplistic and frankly a bit of a daft thing to say. Corbyn's fault lies with the fact that he unashamedly confuses freedom of speech and expression with thinking everyone has an equal right to a voice when they don't necessarily because of the socio-political position they hold and express. For example, Corbyn thinks that Palestinians have just as equal a right to a voice as Israeli's, which is correct. But he will then proceed to seek to engage with Hamas at a time when they are openly slaughtering innocent Israeli's and moreover not attack Hamas' actions for fear of violating that Palestinian right to freedom of speech. Palestinians don't equal Hamas much in the same way that the English don't equal Reform - and to say that Corbyn's politics are antisemitic is equally wrong. Corbyn himself isn't antisemitic - Corbyn just has an overly simplistic way of approaching the Palestinian issue as he doesn't view Israeli citizens who have the protection of the US-backed Israeli state with the same victimhood as he views Palestinians. That's not preconceived antisemitism; it's a lack of intellect. But, to say that Corbyn hates Jews is as stupid as it gets and, frankly wrong. There is no evidence of Corbyn saying that anywhere because he hasn't. Corbyn's fault is that he applies generic and simplistic solutions to complex and nuanced problems on the global stage and it is for that reason that he is dangerous as a political leader - NOT because of stupid right wing views of him. |
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