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Post by idle on Aug 4, 2024 7:32:50 GMT
On here, most optimism seems to have evaporated after yesterdays match, and the sick bay is getting full of players, as is par on course for Stoke City FC. The first three signings we've made are seen as good ones, with a bit more reservation on Sam Gallagher.
I don't agree with the doom and gloom merchants, but I haven't been optimistic after the signings all but stopped after Bocat. We're missing key pieces in defence, midfield and attack. At the same time, with Rose, Pearson and Mmaee out injured long term, and Bae, Vidigal and Gallagher more shorter term, we don't really have space to bring in permanent transfers in big numbers without shifting a few of our mediocre players. Loans is another matter, but they're often young and inconsistent in addition to being hit and miss.
I'm seeing people on here giving SS 10 games, with is mid-October, which I think is ridiculous because our lacklustre transfer window (so far) are down to Walters and Darnbrough, not SS. I have faith in Schuey, and I'm not gonna go for his head unless we go into December several points adrift of 21st. I'll still blame JW and LD though if they don't deliver before Sept 1st.
Realistically, I'm thinking another lower mid-table position of 14th-18th unless we sign a CB, RB (ideally someone quick who can play both) and a DM, and loan a good striker and CAM (because we can't afford to outright sign this). I still won't be satisfied with that, except maybe 14th.
I'd be satified with a 12th-14th given the circumstances, happy with 10th-12th and ecstatic at more than that.
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 4, 2024 8:05:48 GMT
So far it appears Walters has left Schumacher well short of what he needs which can still change but the Striker situation is really worrying. I don't know what Schumacher is supposed to do with that squad, having no striker will make any formation he tries really difficult.
If we address our issues before the window closes then top 10, if we don't get another striker in we will be bottom 3 and that will be on Walters not Schumacher
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Post by thornestein on Aug 4, 2024 8:08:08 GMT
So far it appears Walters has left Schumacher well short of what he needs which can still change but the Striker situation is really worrying. I don't know what Schumacher is supposed to do with that squad, having no striker will make any formation he tries really difficult. If we address our issues before the window closes then top 10, if we don't get another striker in we will be bottom 3 and that will be on Walters not Schumacher surely as they’re supposed to work as a team it’s on them both plus the new HoR |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 4, 2024 8:12:19 GMT
Finishing above 14th shows improvement.
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Post by Block 26 on Aug 4, 2024 8:14:18 GMT
Looking at the current squad I can see another relegation battle but there’s still time to get some more quality in yet.
Would be happy with a top half finish though after the past 7 years.
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Post by thornestein on Aug 4, 2024 8:15:38 GMT
Finishing above 14th shows improvement. but lacking ambition |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 4, 2024 8:19:50 GMT
Top half would be a great achievement.
But it will be a relegation battle.
With a 17/18th finish.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 4, 2024 8:21:21 GMT
Finishing above 14th shows improvement. but lacking ambition But is realistic with what we have. Tbh if we didn’t make another signing, we’d be relegation candidates. 4 good signings for the first team makes us midtable. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 4, 2024 8:24:33 GMT
21st
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Post by baconburger on Aug 4, 2024 8:26:03 GMT
So far it appears Walters has left Schumacher well short of what he needs which can still change but the Striker situation is really worrying. I don't know what Schumacher is supposed to do with that squad, having no striker will make any formation he tries really difficult. If we address our issues before the window closes then top 10, if we don't get another striker in we will be bottom 3 and that will be on Walters not Schumacher surely as they’re supposed to work as a team it’s on them both plus the new HoR So what have they provided him with to reproduce the sort of football we were playing at the end of last season?? We’re short of mainly Hoever Cundle and Campbell who haven’t really been replaced like for like. The way people on here have talked about those three players it should have been a piece of piss to replace them. |
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 4, 2024 8:37:28 GMT
So far it appears Walters has left Schumacher well short of what he needs which can still change but the Striker situation is really worrying. I don't know what Schumacher is supposed to do with that squad, having no striker will make any formation he tries really difficult. If we address our issues before the window closes then top 10, if we don't get another striker in we will be bottom 3 and that will be on Walters not Schumacher surely as they’re supposed to work as a team it’s on them both plus the new HoR If Schumacher is going to them and telling them what he needs but doesn't get it then it's not really his fault. He can only ask for what he needs, it's up to Walters and his team to deliver. Walters goes on about players having character and about doing all the background checks then takes a risk on an injury prone player who is a striker that doesn't score goals. I don't know what classifies as a striker but Gallagher isn't a Striker. If we need to sell before more players can come in then Schumacher has no control of that either, that's Walters department. |
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Post by ashleyscfc on Aug 4, 2024 8:46:23 GMT
Based on what I’ve seen pre season I’m expecting 16th-21st.
Gooch at LW, Thomson getting caught on the ball time after time, laurent looking disinterested, Leris offering not a lot and Gallagher going off injured felt shambolic.
Without Cundle, McNally, Hoever, Campbell we’ve regressed without question.
The squad still lacks balance, depth and quality
Ennis, Johnson, Thomson, Leris, Jojic clearly aren’t up to it. With questions hanging over Pearson, Maaee, Vidigal. There’s an huge amount to do still
As normal, I don’t see where the goals are coming from currently
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Post by Foster on Aug 4, 2024 8:46:26 GMT
Top 8
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 4, 2024 8:50:50 GMT
But is realistic with what we have. Tbh if we didn’t make another signing, we’d be relegation candidates. 4 good signings for the first team makes us midtable. Gallagher is looking like a desperation signing. It only takes a few decent players to make a team click and you can quickly become title contenders in this league. There is not much in it, we have some quality in the team we just need the solid pro's to complement them and a striker that knows where the net is. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 4, 2024 8:54:19 GMT
But is realistic with what we have. Tbh if we didn’t make another signing, we’d be relegation candidates. 4 good signings for the first team makes us midtable. Gallagher is looking like a desperation signing. It only takes a few decent players to make a team click and you can quickly become title contenders in this league. There is not much in it, we have some quality in the team we just need the solid pro's to complement them and a striker that knows where the net is. It does but we’re miles away from that. We need 4 new starters minimum. 5 if you want a new right back. Solid pros? We have plenty. They are the issue. We need a mobile centre half who can pass and is relatively quick. We need a DM who is disciplined and can pass. If he keeps the 433, we need an energetic attacking midfielder who can pass and score a few. And we need a striker who can do everything. As is we should be in a relegation scrap. |
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Aug 4, 2024 9:07:15 GMT
Who the hell knows?
Everyone’s a ITK and Mystic Meg on here.
Admittedly pre-season has been something of a disaster with all the old failings (to numerous to mention)
A lot can still happen but have to say if we could possibly manage it, I’d move heaven and earth to get Cundle and Hoever in, arguably two of our best players end of last season.
Let’s face it, we’re not going to sign a 20 goal striker so it’s essential we play potential goals orders like Lewis Baker.
Like almost every club we need our best players out on the grass so fingers crossed Junho isn’t too badly injured.
We’ve got some really exciting ‘kiddies’ coming through but by and large they aren’t ready yet. Anyway as a wise man once said “you don’t win anything with kids” 😊
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Post by tuum on Aug 4, 2024 9:08:50 GMT
6th.
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Post by baconburger on Aug 4, 2024 9:11:50 GMT
Gallagher is looking like a desperation signing. It only takes a few decent players to make a team click and you can quickly become title contenders in this league. There is not much in it, we have some quality in the team we just need the solid pro's to complement them and a striker that knows where the net is. It does but we’re miles away from that. We need 4 new starters minimum. 5 if you want a new right back. Solid pros? We have plenty. They are the issue. We need a mobile centre half who can pass and is relatively quick. We need a DM who is disciplined and can pass. If he keeps the 433, we need an energetic attacking midfielder who can pass and score a few. And we need a striker who can do everything. As is we should be in a relegation scrap. This DNA shit is the biggest load of bollocks I’ve ever heard especially coming from a bloke with form for nicking his teammates possessions. We need footballers primarily ones that are involved in the scoring and creating of goals. Mavericks welcome. |
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Aug 4, 2024 9:18:19 GMT
2nd.
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Post by march4 on Aug 4, 2024 9:18:57 GMT
Without any more signings I will be happy to see us out of the relegation slots.
However, I’m optimistic we will make some sound acquisitions and should flirt with the playoffs.
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Post by baconburger on Aug 4, 2024 9:24:05 GMT
Without any more signings I will be happy to see us out of the relegation slots. However, I’m optimistic we will make some sound acquisitions and should flirt with the playoffs. Surprised you’re not loving it. Inching back towards Gammon FC. |
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Post by march4 on Aug 4, 2024 9:35:04 GMT
Without any more signings I will be happy to see us out of the relegation slots. However, I’m optimistic we will make some sound acquisitions and should flirt with the playoffs. Surprised you’re not loving it. Inching back towards Gammon FC. Need the right players for any formation. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 4, 2024 9:37:18 GMT
Before the AZ game I was going for around 8th to 12th.
But after that game,its obvious we need to bring in a decent striker a CH & a RB,plus if we keep playing Wilmot,I just hope we can stay clear of any relegation trouble.
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Post by a on Aug 4, 2024 9:42:43 GMT
Without any more signings I will be happy to see us out of the relegation slots. However, I’m optimistic we will make some sound acquisitions and should flirt with the playoffs. Surprised you’re not loving it. Inching back towards Gammon FC. I don’t think “gammon” is an acceptable terminology. |
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Post by fca47 on Aug 4, 2024 9:48:06 GMT
I'd only be satisfied with promotion. But not expecting it. An improvement would be about tenth.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Aug 4, 2024 9:49:57 GMT
Avoiding relegation seems to have been our main ambition.... Somehow can't see this theme changing any time soon!!!
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Post by pavel on Aug 4, 2024 10:09:07 GMT
With the team as it stands, staying up bottom quarter. The team at the moment is well short of what it needs to be and shows either a lack of ambition, urgency from the board or a lack of focus, it appears, from the transfer team. There's time yet to bring in the quality players we need but I don't want to write off August as a building exercise. If I was Schumacher I would be a tad worried I had been given a poisoned chalice and a very weak hand.
Hopefully we have a plan in place but it all feels a bit to complacent at the moment. We're not going to progress with more squad players/work hard type, we need some serious quality in key positions, (the whole spine) and probably right back as well.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 4, 2024 10:13:22 GMT
I'd like a top 10
I expect somewhere between 14th and 20th
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Post by GrahamHyde on Aug 4, 2024 10:14:20 GMT
12th
I think we'll be right down the bottom though unless we bring in some new faces.
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Post by baconburger on Aug 4, 2024 10:17:03 GMT
Surprised you’re not loving it. Inching back towards Gammon FC. I don’t think “gammon” is an acceptable terminology. Guess what I don't fucking care. |
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