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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 21, 2024 9:41:43 GMT
Why is his reputation so poor? Not saying you're wrong but how do you know? Unfortunately Coates has given him carte blanche to run things his way. It sounds like we've got rid of some good people around the club too, including Adrian Hurst last week. I've got a lot of connections with people who are very close to Stoke and in a few other's such as Everton, Liverpool etc..My wife's family mostly work in football too. I've heard him called untrustworthy on many occasions. Do a bit of digging on his time at Ipswich. Mate you really need to stop slagging JW off. I didn’t want SS to get the sack and do feel for him. But after lastnight there’s one thing for sure SS said he was going to give the players a pre season from hell but obviously can’t have as they are no way near the fitness levels required. I hope SS does well in the future but your bitterness is showing through.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2024 9:42:56 GMT
I've got a lot of connections with people who are very close to Stoke and in a few other's such as Everton, Liverpool etc..My wife's family mostly work in football too. I've heard him called untrustworthy on many occasions. Do a bit of digging on his time at Ipswich. Mate you really need to stop slagging JW off. I didn’t want SS to get the sack and do feel for him. But after lastnight there’s one thing for sure SS said he was going to give the players a pre season from hell but obviously can’t have as they are no way near the fitness levels required. I hope SS does well in the future but your bitterness is showing through. Don’t tell him. It’s fucking hilarious.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Sept 21, 2024 9:45:02 GMT
I've got a lot of connections with people who are very close to Stoke and in a few other's such as Everton, Liverpool etc..My wife's family mostly work in football too. I've heard him called untrustworthy on many occasions. Do a bit of digging on his time at Ipswich. Mate you really need to stop slagging JW off. I didn’t want SS to get the sack and do feel for him. But after lastnight there’s one thing for sure SS said he was going to give the players a pre season from hell but obviously can’t have as they are no way near the fitness levels required. I hope SS does well in the future but your bitterness is showing through. Honestly mate, I'm not bitter. I'm just saying how it is. Stoke will always be my club and I want the very best for us. We're not going anywhere with him in this position.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 21, 2024 9:46:16 GMT
If it it carries on,Coates will have to sack them both,because Walters won't sack the coach without looking stupid.
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Post by tommystoke123 on Sept 21, 2024 9:47:25 GMT
Mate you really need to stop slagging JW off. I didn’t want SS to get the sack and do feel for him. But after lastnight there’s one thing for sure SS said he was going to give the players a pre season from hell but obviously can’t have as they are no way near the fitness levels required. I hope SS does well in the future but your bitterness is showing through. Honestly mate, I'm not bitter. I'm just saying how it is. Stoke will always be my club and I want the very best for us. We're not going anywhere with him in this position. We’d still have lost last night with Steven in charge, as if he was still here the problems at this club would still be existent. Coates and Walters.
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Post by tommystoke123 on Sept 21, 2024 9:47:46 GMT
If it it carries on,Coates will have to sack them both,because Walters won't sack the coach without looking stupid. Hope Coates is able to sack himself tbh
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Post by senojbor on Sept 21, 2024 9:51:05 GMT
I've got a lot of connections with people who are very close to Stoke and in a few other's such as Everton, Liverpool etc..My wife's family mostly work in football too. I've heard him called untrustworthy on many occasions. Do a bit of digging on his time at Ipswich. Mate you really need to stop slagging JW off. I didn’t want SS to get the sack and do feel for him. But after lastnight there’s one thing for sure SS said he was going to give the players a pre season from hell but obviously can’t have as they are no way near the fitness levels required. I hope SS does well in the future but your bitterness is showing through. Is it okay if I slag him off then? I think he was a coward for sacking SS. Stabbing in the back
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Sept 21, 2024 9:53:00 GMT
Honestly mate, I'm not bitter. I'm just saying how it is. Stoke will always be my club and I want the very best for us. We're not going anywhere with him in this position. We’d still have lost last night with Steven in charge, as if he was still here the problems at this club would still be existent. Coates and Walters. That's impossible to say really mate. Maybe the players are very annoyed with the way things have been handled, feel demotivated, don't trust the new coach? God knows but they looked lost at times and there was literally no shape in the team. Let's hope they turn it around quickly because if we play like that in the next 8 games, we're right in the shit.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2024 9:53:40 GMT
Mate you really need to stop slagging JW off. I didn’t want SS to get the sack and do feel for him. But after lastnight there’s one thing for sure SS said he was going to give the players a pre season from hell but obviously can’t have as they are no way near the fitness levels required. I hope SS does well in the future but your bitterness is showing through. Is it okay if I slag him off then? I think he was a coward for sacking SS. Stabbing in the back Stabbed in the back? He literally sacked him 🤣 Schumacher was doing a bad job. He’s gone. An absolute nobody.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2024 9:54:17 GMT
We’d still have lost last night with Steven in charge, as if he was still here the problems at this club would still be existent. Coates and Walters. That's impossible to say really mate. Maybe the players are very annoyed with the way things have been handled, feel demotivated, don't trust the new coach? God knows but they looked lost at times and there was literally no shape in the team. Let's hope they turn it around quickly because if we play like that in the next 8 games, we're right in the shit. 🤣🤣🤣 Stop making stuff up.
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 21, 2024 9:55:04 GMT
Mate you really need to stop slagging JW off. I didn’t want SS to get the sack and do feel for him. But after lastnight there’s one thing for sure SS said he was going to give the players a pre season from hell but obviously can’t have as they are no way near the fitness levels required. I hope SS does well in the future but your bitterness is showing through. Is it okay if I slag him off then? I think he was a coward for sacking SS. Stabbing in the back That’s your opinion but please add how you have come to this opinion
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Post by tommystoke123 on Sept 21, 2024 9:57:35 GMT
It feels like we’re in an endless cycle of crap and nothing is done about it.
We say protest about the Coates family etc, but fans then shut it down by saying who’d come in and do better etc. Seems like they get a free hit because they offer free away coach travel too. And without any evidence, people say we’re not an attractive club to buy, we’re a better club to buy than Hull IMO. Just because it’s not public knowledge doesn’t mean no one has enquired.
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 21, 2024 9:58:24 GMT
Mate you really need to stop slagging JW off. I didn’t want SS to get the sack and do feel for him. But after lastnight there’s one thing for sure SS said he was going to give the players a pre season from hell but obviously can’t have as they are no way near the fitness levels required. I hope SS does well in the future but your bitterness is showing through. Honestly mate, I'm not bitter. I'm just saying how it is. Stoke will always be my club and I want the very best for us. We're not going anywhere with him in this position. [br It must be how your coming across mate but time will tell if your right and glad to hear stoke will always be your club. I do wish SS all the best though
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2024 10:03:39 GMT
It feels like we’re in an endless cycle of crap and nothing is done about it. We say protest about the Coates family etc, but fans then shut it down by saying who’d come in and do better etc. Seems like they get a free hit because they offer free away coach travel too. And without any evidence, people say we’re not an attractive club to buy, we’re a better club to buy than Hull IMO. Just because it’s not public knowledge doesn’t mean no one has enquired. Because it’s a tough thing to realise and people don’t want it to be true so would rather live in denial. The psychology behind it must be fascinating.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Sept 21, 2024 10:04:30 GMT
Honestly mate, I'm not bitter. I'm just saying how it is. Stoke will always be my club and I want the very best for us. We're not going anywhere with him in this position. [br It must be how your coming across mate but time will tell if your right and glad to hear stoke will always be your club. I do wish SS all the best though Thanks mate. I've passed on all of the messages of support to Ste and he is genuinely grateful. Of course Stoke are always my club. They were before Ste was even born. I'm just incredibly worried with the direction in which we seem to be heading. Time will tell but I'm not feeling optimistic. I sincerely hope the new coach does well and wish him the very best of luck.
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Post by emretezzy on Sept 21, 2024 10:04:42 GMT
I've got a lot of connections with people who are very close to Stoke and in a few other's such as Everton, Liverpool etc..My wife's family mostly work in football too. I've heard him called untrustworthy on many occasions. Do a bit of digging on his time at Ipswich. Mate you really need to stop slagging JW off. I didn’t want SS to get the sack and do feel for him. But after lastnight there’s one thing for sure SS said he was going to give the players a pre season from hell but obviously can’t have as they are no way near the fitness levels required. I hope SS does well in the future but your bitterness is showing through. They are professional footballers Wakey. They are without doubt fit enough. They mentally shut off yesterday. The first whiff of things not going their way and the tools were firmly put down. Worrying signs to me. I am going to give the manager full backing now and hope he does well.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2024 10:05:55 GMT
Mate you really need to stop slagging JW off. I didn’t want SS to get the sack and do feel for him. But after lastnight there’s one thing for sure SS said he was going to give the players a pre season from hell but obviously can’t have as they are no way near the fitness levels required. I hope SS does well in the future but your bitterness is showing through. They are professional footballers Wakey. They are without doubt fit enough. They mentally shut off yesterday. The first whiff of things not going their way and the tools were firmly put down. Worrying signs to me. I am going to give the manager full backing now and hope he does well. So just sack fitness coaches then as they’re clearly not needed?
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Post by emretezzy on Sept 21, 2024 10:12:54 GMT
They are professional footballers Wakey. They are without doubt fit enough. They mentally shut off yesterday. The first whiff of things not going their way and the tools were firmly put down. Worrying signs to me. I am going to give the manager full backing now and hope he does well. So just sack fitness coaches then as they’re clearly not needed? Of course not. Every Stoke player will be fit enough now, some might not be match sharp but everyone has had opportunities because of the cup run. Footballers are fit, they are data driven, every session is monitored from heart rate, intensity etc..(even in Under 18s now). The main issue is over working rather than under working across professional footballers. The clubs mentality is fragile, it permeates from fans to players. They don't handle adversity well. As seen in the second half.
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 21, 2024 10:14:22 GMT
Mate you really need to stop slagging JW off. I didn’t want SS to get the sack and do feel for him. But after lastnight there’s one thing for sure SS said he was going to give the players a pre season from hell but obviously can’t have as they are no way near the fitness levels required. I hope SS does well in the future but your bitterness is showing through. They are professional footballers Wakey. They are without doubt fit enough. They mentally shut off yesterday. The first whiff of things not going their way and the tools were firmly put down. Worrying signs to me. I am going to give the manager full backing now and hope he does well. They are and your right about one thing panic did set in once the penalty was given which is a mentality thing but there wasn’t much wrong with that 1st half apart from not scoring more but the 2nd half in my opinion is they were knackered early on. I do think there was an element of overloading on the new managers style. I always back a manager who ever takes over but I know when it’s not working.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2024 10:16:21 GMT
So just sack fitness coaches then as they’re clearly not needed? Of course not. Every Stoke player will be fit enough now, some might not be match sharp but everyone has had opportunities because of the cup run. Footballers are fit, they are data driven, every session is monitored from heart rate, intensity etc..(even in Under 18s now). The main issue is over working rather than under working across professional footballers. The clubs mentality is fragile, it permeates from fans to players. They don't handle adversity well. As seen in the second half. They aren’t though. They were all absolutely fucked after 35 minutes. Pre season again was pointless from a fitness pov. The strength and conditioning is woeful. They are not fit enough to play 90 minutes and that’s on Schumacher, it’s on Walters, it’s in Tricky Ricky and it’s on Neil etc.
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Post by proudstokie on Sept 21, 2024 10:19:08 GMT
That's impossible to say really mate. Maybe the players are very annoyed with the way things have been handled, feel demotivated, don't trust the new coach? God knows but they looked lost at times and there was literally no shape in the team. Let's hope they turn it around quickly because if we play like that in the next 8 games, we're right in the shit. 🤣🤣🤣 Stop making stuff up. Got to agree, that’s just a fabrication. First half I actually thought we played very well, without having the killer touch in the final third. Second half the same issues appeared as under SS, ran out of steam, poor fullbacks and a mental collapse. We didn’t have the options to freshen up off the bench, the manager saw that Junior was exposed so put Emre on to cover him. This killed our attack until ultimately Junior was pulled but at least he saw the issue. Everyone liked SS because he came across as a nice, genuine guy and he’s been successful but he’s started to build a rep of not being able to work with people and some of the performances we’ve seen, Leicester home, Blackburn away, Watford away, Oxford away, have been as bad as anything we’ve seen in the past 7 years. Good luck to SS and let’s give the new guy some time - hold onto your hats 🎩
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Post by silsdenstokie on Sept 21, 2024 10:23:52 GMT
Of course not. Every Stoke player will be fit enough now, some might not be match sharp but everyone has had opportunities because of the cup run. Footballers are fit, they are data driven, every session is monitored from heart rate, intensity etc..(even in Under 18s now). The main issue is over working rather than under working across professional footballers. The clubs mentality is fragile, it permeates from fans to players. They don't handle adversity well. As seen in the second half. They aren’t though. They were all absolutely fucked after 35 minutes. Pre season again was pointless from a fitness pov. The strength and conditioning is woeful. They are not fit enough to play 90 minutes and that’s on Schumacher, it’s on Walters, it’s in Tricky Ricky and it’s on Neil etc. Managers come and go, coaches come and go, DOFs come and go but somethings never change Oh for a Lou Macari preseason fitness regime
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Post by RAF on Sept 21, 2024 12:02:09 GMT
Is it okay if I slag him off then? I think he was a coward for sacking SS. Stabbing in the back Stabbed in the back? He literally sacked him 🤣 Schumacher was doing a bad job. He’s gone. An absolute nobody. A bad job? Fucking hell,I'd like to see your metrics for a good job? Chris Kamara, Alan Ball et al, they did a bad job. SS in comparison to those is fucking Pep. H
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2024 12:06:54 GMT
Stabbed in the back? He literally sacked him 🤣 Schumacher was doing a bad job. He’s gone. An absolute nobody. A bad job? Fucking hell,I'd like to see your metrics for a good job? Chris Kamara, Alan Ball et al, they did a bad job. SS in comparison to those is fucking Pep. H No he was shit.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 21, 2024 12:08:04 GMT
A bad job? Fucking hell,I'd like to see your metrics for a good job? Chris Kamara, Alan Ball et al, they did a bad job. SS in comparison to those is fucking Pep. H No he was shit. You think Kane is shit so I tend to assume most of your opinions are shyte too 😆
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Post by Gods on Sept 21, 2024 12:11:18 GMT
If it it carries on,Coates will have to sack them both,because Walters won't sack the coach without looking stupid. Yes, it's hard to see how Walters could survive Pelach failing. I think were that to happen Coates may turn to Shawcross to see out the campaign and regroup next summer.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2024 12:14:50 GMT
You think Kane is shit so I tend to assume most of your opinions are shyte too 😆 No I don’t. He’s clearly a good goalscorer but he absolutely makes England worse.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 21, 2024 12:24:22 GMT
Mate you really need to stop slagging JW off. I didn’t want SS to get the sack and do feel for him. But after lastnight there’s one thing for sure SS said he was going to give the players a pre season from hell but obviously can’t have as they are no way near the fitness levels required. I hope SS does well in the future but your bitterness is showing through. Is it okay if I slag him off then? I think he was a coward for sacking SS. Stabbing in the back It's a strange one because I don't think it is cowardly, it's ballsy if anything, he's sacked his safety net, if this doesn't work out he should be the first to go.
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Post by RAF on Sept 21, 2024 12:25:42 GMT
A bad job? Fucking hell,I'd like to see your metrics for a good job? Chris Kamara, Alan Ball et al, they did a bad job. SS in comparison to those is fucking Pep. H No he was shit. Still as batshit as ever with no reasoning. 7 out of 10 games won at the point of sacking. Utterly barmy even for your skewed view. I admire your tenacity though to be fair! H
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 21, 2024 12:32:31 GMT
You think Kane is shit so I tend to assume most of your opinions are shyte too 😆 No I don’t. He’s clearly a good goalscorer but he absolutely makes England worse. 😭
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